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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4129 is a reply to message #4126 ] Sat, 08 November 2008 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, no. We won't make you. We'll just talk about fibercrafting so much that your own curiosity will suck you into our stringy world.


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4157 is a reply to message #1062 ] Sat, 08 November 2008 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well I got sucked in by Jodi. A few months later I have a growing stash, knitting on my needles again, a growing collection of knitting books (anything that interests me I will read about) and a serious Ravelry addiction. Share the pleasure, share the pain. I'm having a ton of fun!


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4159 is a reply to message #4157 ] Sat, 08 November 2008 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A Ravelry addiction is the best kind Smile

If I hadn't recently found Robin's blog, I would have thought Ravelry was the entire interwebz


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4160 is a reply to message #4157 ] Sat, 08 November 2008 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just found you and friended you on Ravelry. My username is different there.


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Gotcha and back at you !


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4164 is a reply to message #1062 ] Sat, 08 November 2008 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just joined Ravelry today, username TheLorelei. I haven't done anything with my profile yet but I'm sure that will change...


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4186 is a reply to message #1062 ] Sat, 08 November 2008 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not me. I suck at them. But I like to hang around.


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4252 is a reply to message #4057 ] Sun, 09 November 2008 01:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jmeadows wrote on Fri, 07 November 2008 22:20

Charismitaine wrote on Fri, 07 November 2008 21:09

And HERE IT IS!

TA-DA!


Gorgeous! Good work!

Your first yarn is bound to be thick and thin. Keep going! I think the ideal yarn weight for that spindle will probably be a tad thinner than what you've got on the spindle already. That will keep it spinning longer.

As for reattaching your roving, that's another thing you'll get with practice. You'll find it wants to grab onto itself. Have you ever done a spit splice in knitting? It's the same sort of thing, but without the spit or the rubbing or anything. Smile

Lovely work!


Thanks!

And nooooo, I have not heard of this spit splice before, and I have to say that it kind of sounds gross o_0

So, my current problem is the already spun yarn coming up and curling around the hook when I spin out my spindle. Is it just that the spindle is full, or am I doing something wrong?
Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4255 is a reply to message #4252 ] Sun, 09 November 2008 03:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Charismitaine wrote on Sun, 09 November 2008 01:53


Thanks!

And nooooo, I have not heard of this spit splice before, and I have to say that it kind of sounds gross o_0

So, my current problem is the already spun yarn coming up and curling around the hook when I spin out my spindle. Is it just that the spindle is full, or am I doing something wrong?


The idea of a spit splice is to felt the two ends together - liquid, friction, and heat - but you can dip the ends in water if you don't want to spit on your knitting. Wink

You mean the yarn is slipping over the whorl (you're using the top whorl, right?) and generally being a pain? It *could* mean you're full, but you could also try a couple other things:

1. wrap the yarn around the hook twice to secure it before you start spinning

2. If your spindle has a notch in the whorl, make sure your yarn is catching in it - that way it won't slip around the whorl

3. wrap lower on the shaft before bringing the yarn over the whorl. Don't ask me why this works. It just does.

(If you have a webcam and want to do internet lessons sometime, let me know. Maybe we can figure out how to solve problems like that. Smile )


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4327 is a reply to message #1062 ] Sun, 09 November 2008 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, I have yet to attempt the bottom whorl...

It looks like double-wrapping the hook does the trick! Unfortunately I don't have a notch, though. I think it will also help if I draft the next batch to be half as thick....But first I have to get this stuff off the spindle! If I don't come back, my yarn ate me.......
Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4331 is a reply to message #1062 ] Sun, 09 November 2008 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK, Ravelry is swallowing my life...but what an amazing resource! I discovered the vegan knitting group, which is helpful because my pregnant sister is vegan, and I want to try my hand at baby clothes! I made an acrylic blanket, but something that is actually on the little guy should really be a natural fiber, I think. I just remember those safety videos that we watched in high school chemistry class where they lit a polyester shirt on fire and it melted.


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4334 is a reply to message #4327 ] Sun, 09 November 2008 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Charismitaine wrote on Sun, 09 November 2008 19:13

Yeah, I have yet to attempt the bottom whorl...

It looks like double-wrapping the hook does the trick! Unfortunately I don't have a notch, though. I think it will also help if I draft the next batch to be half as thick....But first I have to get this stuff off the spindle! If I don't come back, my yarn ate me.......


When you start your next cop (what the yarn on the spindle is called) on the top whorl, don't take the first bit of yarn off the hook. You know how you fold a pieces of wool over, start spinning...? Leave that piece on the hook. Bring it down to the base of the hook. Wrap it over the whorl, then start wrapping the yarn around the shaft. When you start spinning the next length of yarn, you can catch it on that piece of yarn, which will act as a notch.

That's how I do all my top whorls. I don't want to have to cut notches in any of my pretty whorls. Smile


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4359 is a reply to message #4331 ] Sun, 09 November 2008 20:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Laura wrote on Mon, 10 November 2008 02:21

OK, Ravelry is swallowing my life...but what an amazing resource! I discovered the vegan knitting group, which is helpful because my pregnant sister is vegan, and I want to try my hand at baby clothes! I made an acrylic blanket, but something that is actually on the little guy should really be a natural fiber, I think. I just remember those safety videos that we watched in high school chemistry class where they lit a polyester shirt on fire and it melted.


Eeek! Surely cotton. I know vegans often have silk issues (torturing silk worms) but there are a ton of other plant fibres around: linen knits up beautifully, bamboo too, so much more: Jodi was just showing me (on Flickr) a corn based fibre.

(And Ravelry is yet another time sink).


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4363 is a reply to message #4359 ] Sun, 09 November 2008 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You have to be careful with some "plant-based" fibres, though. Sometimes the end-result of a supposedly plant-based fibre is something that has a much greater chemical resemblance to petroleum-based fibres than anything else. (I.e., the stuff will still melt into a puddle of plastic instead of burning to ash.) I know there have been some Ravelry threads on the Yarn board within the past month or so about this subject.

(Hmm... my computer thinks I should stick to the American spelling of fibre... silly computer.)


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4371 is a reply to message #4363 ] Sun, 09 November 2008 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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blondviolinist wrote on Sun, 09 November 2008 20:20

You have to be careful with some "plant-based" fibres, though. Sometimes the end-result of a supposedly plant-based fibre is something that has a much greater chemical resemblance to petroleum-based fibres than anything else. (I.e., the stuff will still melt into a puddle of plastic instead of burning to ash.) I know there have been some Ravelry threads on the Yarn board within the past month or so about this subject.

(Hmm... my computer thinks I should stick to the American spelling of fibre... silly computer.)


Yes, like...bamboo, I think. There was a discussion on a spinning board that it's not really a *green* fiber since there's so much processing involved.


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4374 is a reply to message #1062 ] Sun, 09 November 2008 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't disagree. In many ways rayon is more natural than bamboo. But Laura wasn't asking about green fibres, she was asking about "natural", i.e. not petrochemical. I know vegans who will only wear plastic type shoes, so they'd rather have the petrochemical environmental damage than the ethical dilemma of animal death.


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4380 is a reply to message #1062 ] Sun, 09 November 2008 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Eek! OK I suppose I'm looking for where natural intersects with plant-based. I know that cotton and linen are options, but I can't get over cotton's reputation as "the death fabric." I'd like to make something for the winter months, as he's due in January.
I know my brother in law wears hemp sweaters...maybe hemp? Argh.
ETA: My sister has noted that the problem she has with wool is just that there is so little information on the treatment of the sheep/llamas/alpacas/what have you and that some sources had implied that the shearing process can sometimes be rough and not done in a natural/seasonal manner. What's frustrating about this is that it's SO HARD to google this information, because I'm pretty sure that humanely treated animal wool would be acceptable (pretty sure she'd prefer they didn't end up as mutton, either, but HOW on earth can I verify that?)

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Laura wrote on Sun, 09 November 2008 20:57


ETA: My sister has noted that the problem she has with wool is just that there is so little information on the treatment of the sheep/llamas/alpacas/what have you and that some sources had implied that the shearing process can sometimes be rough and not done in a natural/seasonal manner. What's frustrating about this is that it's SO HARD to google this information, because I'm pretty sure that humanely treated animal wool would be acceptable (pretty sure she'd prefer they didn't end up as mutton, either, but HOW on earth can I verify that?)


You could always get to know some farmers and use their products ... Smile Basically - don't trust everything on the internet and nature is *not* like Disney anyhow. Hehe. I know how I manage my stock and it is based on a low-stress premise.

(she might prefer if they don't end up as mutton but everything dies in the end ..... some of it "nicely" and some "not so nice". That's nature for you Wink )


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4430 is a reply to message #1062 ] Mon, 10 November 2008 00:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've finished the Blue Scarf! I would love to have made it about five inches longer than it is but I ran out of yarn and since I got this yarn ten years ago I don't think there's much hope of matching it so I just ended it. I still need to block it, but it's done.


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Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4431 is a reply to message #4334 ] Mon, 10 November 2008 00:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When you start your next cop (what the yarn on the spindle is called) on the top whorl, don't take the first bit of yarn off the hook. You know how you fold a pieces of wool over, start spinning...? Leave that piece on the hook. Bring it down to the base of the hook. Wrap it over the whorl, then start wrapping the yarn around the shaft. When you start spinning the next length of yarn, you can catch it on that piece of yarn, which will act as a notch.

That's how I do all my top whorls. I don't want to have to cut notches in any of my pretty whorls. Smile[/quote]

Oooooh, clever! That should do the trick!

...Cotton has a reputation?
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Haha, yes, you can witness it even in the musical Annie where they sing "cotton blankets, 'stead of wool...."
From what I understand, outdoor rescuers refer to cotton as "the death fabric" because it is a poor insulator and it also soaks up water very quickly, so it actually can end up sucking away your body heat.


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Upon further research, it looks like cotton is still higher on the "warmth" index than acrylics, linen, hemp, and soy/bamboo/corn. So unless she gives me the go ahead on the humane wool resources I've located, I'll probably go cotton.


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Laura wrote on Mon, 10 November 2008 18:38

Upon further research, it looks like cotton is still higher on the "warmth" index than acrylics, linen, hemp, and soy/bamboo/corn. So unless she gives me the go ahead on the humane wool resources I've located, I'll probably go cotton.

Just tell her cotton by land and wool if by sea !


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Hahaha! Apparently alpacas are a very environmentally friendly choice, as well as being veggie friendly because they aren't raised for meat. I found a canadian company that makes an affordable cotton/alpaca blend...we might be in business.


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Aaaaah. Living in Texas as I do, breathability is more of a factor than warmth for me, and I love cotton!
Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4677 is a reply to message #1062 ] Tue, 11 November 2008 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, I will certainly make some cotton garments for the summer, but my sister is in Iowa, so I want to make the baby some winter clothes.
Quick question: Is there a substantial difference between worsted weight and aran weight? There's a pattern I want to tackle that says it's for aran weight yarn, which I know is one step above worsted, but worsted seems to be so much more common than aran...


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Occasionally "worsted weight" and "aran weight" are used interchangeably. To use an example from the cheapo yarn world, Red Heart Supersaver and Caron Simply Soft are both advertised as worsted weight yarns, but Red Heart is actually bulkier: it's aran weight, whereas Simply Soft is worsted weight, not aran weight. I like to think of aran weight as being the chubbier end of the worsted weight yarns Smile


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Aha! Thanks for the clarification.


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See? Where else could I go to hear yarn called "chubbier?"


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The fibre world is another obscure dialect with its own jargon. An enigma wrapped up in a knit and purl chunky four-ply sock!


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I think I'm gonna try my hand at cabling soon. One of the women at church is a proficient knitter and says she'll help me figure it out. I found what looks to me to be a very simple cabling pattern... Now I just need more yarn and to actually get together with her.
Also, two of the girls in my class have asked me if I would knit them a scarf - I told them to supply me with yarn and I think they both want the pattern of the Blue Scarf. So yay! Hopefully I'll get some yarn from them tonight. I also warned them that I may not get the scarves back to them before this semester is over(or Christmas, even), and they both seemed fine with that as well...
If only my other set of needles would come I'd be able to work on several projects with similar size needles at once...


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Oh Reading Angel, that is the path to damnation (or a lot of unfinished projects) in my humble and long experience. Finish a project while you're still excited about it. Or else it lingers. And begins to get that rotting fish odour about it.

On the other hand really try cables, it isn't hard at all. If you have a cable needle (or I used to use a kilt brooch) on the right side of your knit, when you reach the point you want your cable, place the required number of stitches on the holder (i.e. half of the entire cable in a simple cable) and put it to the front of your piece if you want your cable to go one way, or to the back of your piece if you want your cable to go the other way. Knit the remaining stitches of that cable and then in the correct order (i.e. the order would have been knit in originally if not cabled) you knit the reserved stitches. Repeat as needed.

Stress not and attempt a few times with yarn you don't care too much about. Otherwise plunge right in. You can do it! And show us your results. Put some pictures up! I look forward to it.


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Well, yes but I want to knit all these things at the same time. I don't like having to wait to do any of them! And many of them I want to get done before Christmas... I am clearly far too ambitious for my own good.

See, I understand about half of what you've said about cabling but then my brain becomes obtuse and refuses to understand the rest of it. I get the part about Putting them Elsewhere and then Doing More Stuff Over Here and then Bringing them Back, it's the how that actually works that I don't get. It's gonna take sitting down with Susanna and trying it for me to really understand it, I think.

I don't have a cable needle or a kilt brooch. Would it be conceivable to use one of the dpns instead? Or ought I to find something that closes on the ends?

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Do you have an old-fashioned hair pin? A DPN is a bit iffy, particularly in the beginning, when you're feeling fraught and as if you have the fingers of Andre the Giant, when you are fairly much bound to drop one (this is no reflection on your knitting skills - more on my mentality). Of course you may be cool and collected and need none of the above. I do understand about wanting to do everything AT ONCE - I too have been looking at patterns avidly, and books and magazines. But you only have one pair of hands and you do want to FINISH stuff don't you? I suffer from terminal put-offi-ness. I decided to announce that sock for Shelley, because otherwise I would put it off until both her legs were mummified in a grave somewhere (Shelley - when you read this - I'm not wishing you ill Wink I'm just saying that a hundred years from now I would still be intending to knit you something). So now i will knit it. I have the fibre and am looking for my graph paper to plot it all out (having decided to do it "properly").

So kali epityhia! (Best wishes for a successful endeavour)


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Ooh! Wonderful!


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I aim to please Smile


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my daughter chelsey working on her first sewing project with my friend shirley. it will be a purse bag.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/3026415684_47686a84dc.jpg?v=0[img][url]http://farm4.http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/3026420602_9edaa43a92.jpg?v=0

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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/3026419066_fbf9a78af5.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3034/3026417496_d7ae889b6e.jpg?v=0
here are some more pictures of work in progress.


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here is shirley helping kaitlynn with her first project.
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Bonnie Holmes the faster ahead I go, the more behind I get
Re: One for all the fibercrafters! [message #4972 is a reply to message #4892 ] Thu, 13 November 2008 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Well, Bonnie you have lovely daughters and a nice and generous friend - time is our most precious resource, and friends who have time for us are a wonderful gift. (thanks to all our forum friends!!!!)


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