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Wed, 04 November 2009 13:43   |
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Beauty/Anna Messages: 481 Registered: November 2008 Location: America |
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Starting Ruby in the Smoke by Phillip Pullman. Has anyone here read it? Also reading Dr Jakyll and Mr Hyde by Robert Louis Stevenson.
[Updated on: Wed, 04 November 2009 13:43] "You are your best resource for success"
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Fri, 06 November 2009 17:11   |
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Julia Messages: 531 Registered: October 2008 Location: Library School |
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| Quote: | I have not read the Golden Compass ect. Did you enjoy it or were you thinking "why does he dislike C. S. Lewis so much, just because he is a Christian?"
The reason I got Ruby in the Smoke was because of the Masterpiece Mystery viewing of it that I saw, and thought that looks like it would be an even better book.
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RE: Golden Compass...
Not at all.
Granted, I first read the books in third grade.
But my mother would never ever have given them to me if she even suspected that they were overtly anti-Christian.
I think that the whole thing has been blown wildly out of proportion. I never ever even thought about that, because while the Church in the books is portrayed a certain way, and often in a rather negative light, I always made the distinction between the Church as it exists in the book and the beliefs that I have in real life. It is clearly fantasy, and so it never struck me as "anti-church for real", if that makes sense... (And most of the upset has been since the movie, which is much worse in that regard than anything that the book might have done. So exaggerated and stereotyped "bad-guy church official". Not like the book at all.)
Where was I going with this? I forget. But if you want me to go on more about this, send me a message, and I'd be delighted.
Um. C.S. Lewis?
Am I forgetting something? Where does it say that Pullman doesn't like Lewis? It hasn't been that long since I reread the books, and I don't remember that.
I like C.S. Lewis very much.
Oh, so you've seen the PBS thing! Cool. I'm glad that it made you want to read the book. I hope you like it even more, then!
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Sat, 07 November 2009 05:55   |
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| Beauty/Anna wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:51 |
| L.R.K. wrote on Thu, 05 November 2009 05:34 | Also read "Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde" - how do you like that one?
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I like it allot, did you?
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Yes, I thought it was very atmospheric. I really like Stevenson's writing. It's funny about "Treasure Island", though - I've read it, but only relatively recently; I was so familiar with the story, having seen a children's program (in my childhood) with a read-aloud of the book, and movie-version, that I could scarcely believe I hadn't already read it!
If you haven't seen it, perhaps you would be interested in this dramatisation of "Treasure Island":
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100813/
Good actors, and Jim Hawkins is played by a young - Christian Bale.
Is there any faithful adaptation of "Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde" though? Where he doesn't have a love/lust interest? It's been a while since I read the book - I need to a re-read - but as I remember it, romance seems very out of place.
Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean, like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.
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Sat, 07 November 2009 11:36   |
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Beauty/Anna Messages: 481 Registered: November 2008 Location: America |
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[quote title=Julia wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 17:11]| Quote: |
Um. C.S. Lewis?
Am I forgetting something? Where does it say that Pullman doesn't like Lewis? It hasn't been that long since I reread the books, and I don't remember that.
I like C.S. Lewis very much.
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About the C. S. Lewis thing, I highly doubt it says anything of the sort in the novels and what not that Pullman has written..... I can not remember where that came from, it could be quit untrue, but again I am not sure.
Also I understand what you are saying about the book, and yes the movie was... like that.
Thank you for your comments Julia.
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Sat, 07 November 2009 13:21   |
ravenclawgirl Messages: 75 Registered: February 2009 Location: Ohio |
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[quote title=Beauty/Anna wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 11:36]| Julia wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 17:11 |
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Um. C.S. Lewis?
Am I forgetting something? Where does it say that Pullman doesn't like Lewis? It hasn't been that long since I reread the books, and I don't remember that.
I like C.S. Lewis very much.
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About the C. S. Lewis thing, I highly doubt it says anything of the sort in the novels and what not that Pullman has written..... I can not remember where that came from, it could be quit untrue, but again I am not sure.
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If I remember correctly, there is supposed to be a quote by Pullman (outside of the books) saying he wanted to do with His Dark Materials for atheism what Lewis did with Narnia for Christianity. That is, introduce children to the basics of the... well, faith... in a fun/fantastical way. I don't know if the quote actually exists, or if a different quote existed that then got twisted/changed/read into, or if someone else said such things and it somehow got turned into "Pullman said such and such."
A quick google search turned up these quotes:
I think [Lewis] was actually dangerous because these books celebrate death. As an end-of-term treat the children are killed: that to me is disgusting. (Philip Pullman in the Sunday Telegraph, January 2002)
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The Narnia books lead up to a view of life so hideous and cruel I can scarcely contain myself when I think of it. (Philip Pullman in The Times, January 2002)
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| Re: Nov.-Dec. 2009 What Are You Reading [message #22775 is a reply to message #22771 ] |
Sat, 07 November 2009 15:29   |
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Julia Messages: 531 Registered: October 2008 Location: Library School |
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Ah. Hmm. Never saw those. Hmmm.
And yet. I am reminded of these:
http://www.unshelved.com/archive.aspx?strip=20080204
http://www.unshelved.com/archive.aspx?strip=20080205
http://www.unshelved.com/archive.aspx?strip=20080208
Because while I might beg to differ with Pullman on some of his personal beliefs, then, it doesn't alter the fact that I like his books!
It is the whole 'Everyone is entitled to his or her own views, and everyone is entitled to disagree, etc.etc.etc.' that I was about to launch into, but no one really needs to hear it here, I'm sure. I happen to be Catholic, and very involved and strong in my faith and all that, but at the same time was able to separate the fantasy world from the one in which I live. If I had read it as a direct attack on what I hold to be true and important, I might be approaching this differently... but I didn't and don't.
Thank you for the quotes, Ravenclawgirl! Aand I'll stop going on about this now. 
Edited to add Robin's review of the film, back from the livejournal days... http://robinmckinley.livejournal.com/2008/01/02/
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Mon, 09 November 2009 21:41   |
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Laura Messages: 196 Registered: October 2008 Location: Midwestern USA |
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| Beauty/Anna wrote on Mon, 09 November 2009 20:04 |
| Laura wrote on Mon, 09 November 2009 15:14 | It's really serendipitous that my Gothic Lit class just finished our last assigned novel, so from here on out its films. My reading is my own again! Wheeee!
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Know how that is 
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Yeah...that's not to say I haven't enjoyed the books I've read for the class; Dracula, Frankenstein, and Wuthering Heights are nothing to sneeze at. It's just so exhilarating to have a chance to slim down my to-read pile, which right now consists of Love Medicine, Kushiel's Dart, and The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. After finishing Fire, that is.
Known on both Ravelry and LibraryThing as thelorelei.
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Mon, 09 November 2009 22:40   |
libby.gorman Messages: 70 Registered: June 2009 Location: Durham, NC |
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Just finished an advanced copy (the first advanced copy I've ever received in my official capacity as a librarian...so excited!) of a dystopic sci-fit book called Ship Breaker, by Paolo Bacigalupi. Very good, but VERY dark. I had to stop in the middle and reread some of my favorite (mostly light-hearted) Lois McMaster Bujold space opera books before I could get back to it.
Ship Breaker is hard to describe, but here goes--boy who lives on a future Gulf Coast helps tear apart old ships for a living (and it's NOT a fun job), discovers a wrecked new "clipper ship" and then discovers an almost-but-not-quite-dead rich girl on it. Adventures and danger ensue. Includes LOTS of violence (it's YA, but I would not recommend it to anyone under high school, and even some high schoolers would find it too much), genetically modified creatures, and consequences of environmental disaster.
The LMB books I reread were in one of her omnibus editions (Miles in Love), and included Komarr, A Civil Campaign, and the novella Winterfair Gifts. I LOVE her characters!
Libby
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| Re: Nov.-Dec. 2009 What Are You Reading [message #22963 is a reply to message #22475 ] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 06:55   |
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rereading tamora pierce's beka cooper"terrier" excellent book.
Bonnie Holmes the faster ahead I go, the more behind I get
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Tue, 10 November 2009 10:55   |
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| Julia wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 00:09 |
And I've never read any Lois McMaster Bujold... is there a particular one that is best to start with?
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I'd start at the beginning of her Vorkosigan books, with Shards of Honor (or with it in the omnibus form, Cordelia's Honor)
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Sat, 14 November 2009 17:30   |
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| Laura wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 11:33 | Also, Bujold's completely unrelated fantasy, The Curse of Chalion, is great.
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I loved THE CURSE OF CHALION
Smooshes!
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Sun, 15 November 2009 01:39   |
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I haven't. Word on the streets is they aren't quite as awesome, and while I'll still probably give them a chance some time to make my own opinion, there are waaaay too many other books I need to get to first. :)
Smooshes!
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Sun, 15 November 2009 03:45   |
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| jmeadows wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 19:39 | I haven't. Word on the streets is they aren't quite as awesome, and while I'll still probably give them a chance some time to make my own opinion, there are waaaay too many other books I need to get to first. 
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They are awesome but in a different kind of way. The 5 gods series is *quite* different to the Miles books, and it took probably 3 reads before I was completely in love with Curse of Chalion. Whereas Paladin of Souls had me *completely* hooked well before halfway, and the third one has its own charm 
I found the Beguilement series much harder to like, and in fact, I didnt until I got to read all four together. Passage and Horizon make the story really work, but you have to wade thru the first two to get to them IMHO - and yet others love them.
Very much YMMV but I would recommend giving at least the first two Chalion books a try.
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Sun, 15 November 2009 21:11   |
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That's good to know, BlueRose. Thanks!
Smooshes!
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Mon, 16 November 2009 01:23   |
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| Beauty/Anna wrote on Sun, 15 November 2009 21:27 | Half way through Wuthering Heights, oh it is so good, and yet my pile of books is not getting any smaller only more looming-mountain-with-avalanche-coming.
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I used to have that mountain too - now I'm several hundred books behind I've completely ceased to worry, and blithely buy more books. With so many books, what's one more? or five?
Anyway, it's nice to complain about it - but would you really want that mountain gone? It might be a tad stressful to look at, but doesn't it also fill you with gleeful anticipation?
Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean, like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.
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Mon, 16 November 2009 12:04   |
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Beauty/Anna Messages: 481 Registered: November 2008 Location: America |
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Oh yes I do like that mountain, but with most of them being library books I can't move through them as I wish—the library dosn't like my mountain and wants to take it, noooooooo.
[Updated on: Mon, 16 November 2009 12:05] "You are your best resource for success"
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Mon, 16 November 2009 17:42   |
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L.R.K. Messages: 1080 Registered: October 2008 Location: Sweden |
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Yes, I know that feeling too - every month, come re-loan time, I must try to cheat that evil library so that I can keep those books a little longer... (Well, obviously, I borrow books from the library as well, in addition to my - 700? - or so unread books - and of course, I also do re-reads... )
Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean, like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.
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