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Mon, 13 July 2009 20:27

b_twin_1
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Rumbled.

I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel ~ Blackadder

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Mon, 13 July 2009 20:30

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*** Little does she realise she was risking Death by Hellgoddess

Robin, you know if I met you for real in real life I might be tempted to do the same…

But—true. Well done on the allowing-yourself-to-be "Authored" and squee-d over. But maybe Favorite Author/Famous Author shock can do that to a person. [the gibbering/squeeing, not the allowing thereof on your part.]
When I met J.K. Rowling… in fifth grade—my teacher bought me a ticket for my birthday. She was doing a booksigning in Greenwich, a few towns over, and we waited in line for an hour, probably… and I had a red dress on, so when I finally got up to the table and was there and she said something like “Supporting Gryffindor, then, are you?” and I seem to recall smiling and mumbling assent or something, but it is just this hazy memory, really, just of her there, on the other side of a table. Talking to me, about my dress! Noticing me!—and then it was over and I moved down the line and that was that.
And I KNEW that I was going to meet her. I can’t imagine if I had been just, oh, at a bellringing tower, say, and realized that that talented woman who had been ringing with me was also the amazing author of most of my favorite books. She must have, as you put it, gibbered a little.

Oh, what a lovely, happy happening!

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‡‡‡ Like the fact that I’m still off line

Oh No. Hope all gets resolved tomorrow. The Computer Man cometh to repair all technologies? Fingers crossed.

But what a PERFECT thing to happen. Oh, YAY. Exuberance. ! I am just so happy for you [both, I suppose!]. Just wonderful.

Smile

[Updated on: Mon, 13 July 2009 23:34]

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Mon, 13 July 2009 20:55

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Little does she realise she was risking Death by Hellgoddess.

Brava on laudable self-control Smile

Especially since she's a strong-female-character-loving reader.

Unless, of course, someone rushes up to me on the street and says, You’re Robin McKinley! You write wonderful books with strong female characters! I’m a Famous Hollywood Producer! And I’m going to throw money at you till you shout stop, stop, I only need one castle in Scotland! § And I’m giving you complete artistic control of everything!

Hmm... I know you write fantasy, but this seems way out there. Dragons and pegasi I can swallow. A famous Hollywood producer giving anyone else artistic control? Very Happy

P.S. My spell-checker doesn't recognize "pegasi." It must be broken.

"Purity of heart is to will one thing." Kirkegaard

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Mon, 13 July 2009 21:54

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Oh I love this story! What a fabulous thing to happen. It's always nice when someone else Recognizes Your Genius. And I'll bet she was thrilled. I'd be stunned if someone I'd been hanging out with for however long turned out to be the author of some of my favorite books. I'd probably risk a hug and gibber, too.

Smooshes!

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Tue, 14 July 2009 00:40

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OMG glee! Glee, I tell you!

That's fantastic. Now she needs to go out and shill, er, promote your books! So you can become bestselling in the UK and recarpet, etc., etc.

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Tue, 14 July 2009 03:50

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What a good story, and what a happy experience for both of you! And I'll bet that woman's daughter will be thrilled, too.

unless you’re JK Rowling, Stephenie Meyer, or Dan Brown, who cares?

DAN BROWN?? Aaargh aaargh aaargh . . .

A tactful little five acres in Hampshire will do.

Don't forget to include the garden helpers to do the grunt work on the five acres. I say this as a result of going around my front garden and saying "Next week YOUR turn" as I inspect the latest crop of weeds.

I had forgotten the bibliophibians. Thank you for the reminder. I LOVE the bibliophibians.

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Tue, 14 July 2009 04:04

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What a neat day. BTW, you are a famous author. I had heard of you, and read your books long before anyone (except their nearest and dearest) had ever heard of J. K. Rowling, Stephanie Meyers or Dan Brown, none of whom write half as intelligently as you do.

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Tue, 14 July 2009 05:27

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zerlina wrote on Tue, 14 July 2009 04:04

Exactly. What she said. Very Happy

[Updated on: Tue, 14 July 2009 05:28]

I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel ~ Blackadder

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Tue, 14 July 2009 06:35

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i third that.

Bonnie Holmes the faster ahead I go, the more behind I get

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Tue, 14 July 2009 07:30

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And certainly some people know †† but it’s not like it’s any kind of deal.

Pbbbt. It's a deal that your books were/are important to her and her kid! I bet she called her daughter the minute she got home...

I hope you steered her in the direction of Chalice, that should tide her over a bit til Pegasus comes out. Smile

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Tue, 14 July 2009 07:40

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Diane in MN wrote on Tue, 14 July 2009 03:50

DAN BROWN?? Aaargh aaargh aaargh . . .

Got something caught in your throat there? Better get a glass of water.

Smooshes!

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Tue, 14 July 2009 07:44

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Note that I am *back on the forum.* Computer Men have been here and . . . given me a *patch*, since THEY don't know what's going on either. But . . . on line! Yaaaaaay!

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Tue, 14 July 2009 07:51

Robin
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blondviolinist wrote on Mon, 13 July 2009 20:55

Little does she realise she was risking Death by Hellgoddess.

Brava on laudable self-control :) Especially since she's a strong-female-character-loving reader.

Unless, of course, someone rushes up to me on the street and says, You’re Robin McKinley! You write wonderful books with strong female characters! I’m a Famous Hollywood Producer! And I’m going to throw money at you till you shout stop, stop, I only need one castle in Scotland! § And I’m giving you complete artistic control of everything!

Hmm... I know you write fantasy, but this seems way out there. Dragons and pegasi I can swallow. A famous Hollywood producer giving anyone else artistic control? :d

P.S. My spell-checker doesn't recognize "pegasi." It must be broken.

I wish to go on record as not being against ALL hugging. Hellhounds. Husbands. The odd friend of thirty or forty years. (Very odd, in my case, yes, quite right.) And this was in fact a *happy* hug, a *THRILLED* hug--and she's not a stranger, she's someone I've known slightly for several years and who I'm happy to see in a bell tower. But as a writer of books that are--and are unashamedly MEANT to be--comfort reading, wet Saturday afternoon reading, (almost)-all-ages reading, girls-who-do-things-yes-we're-CAPABLE reading . . . I've suffered an awful lot of unwelcome PATRONISING hugs, and that has made my nasty personality several wolverine degrees sharper. This usually happens at *book conventions* too when I can't kill anyone.
I should do a blog post on What to Do When You Meet an Author Whose Work You Love. :)

I have the same trouble with my spell checker. Word is *such* an inferior product. I had to put it in the dictionary.

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Tue, 14 July 2009 07:53

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Robin wrote on Tue, 14 July 2009 07:51

blondviolinist wrote on Mon, 13 July 2009 20:55

. . . The funny thing is it has no problem with Famous Hollywood Producer.

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Tue, 14 July 2009 07:56

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(yes well so would I.)

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Tue, 14 July 2009 07:57

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Yes! Yes! YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS! :)

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Tue, 14 July 2009 08:00

Robin
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Diane in MN wrote on Tue, 14 July 2009 03:50

The sequel to DA VINCI is apparently about to come out. You can't go anywhere near any book outlet, virtual or three dimensional, without being bludgeoned by this fact. Sigh.

. . . I have those conversations with weeds too. And I can hear them laughing as I turn and walk away.

There's a note on the home screen (I think) of Wondermark saying that these are the last few weeks to get SIGNED comic prints. Just in case you want to know. . . .

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Tue, 14 July 2009 08:02

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Snork. Thank you. NOw all I need is 1,000,000,000,000,000 readers just like you. :) Or a mere 1,000,000 BOOK BUYING readers.

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Tue, 14 July 2009 08:43

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Robin, you do realize YOU are a strong female character who does stuff, right? (heavy emphasis on _character_ ... *g*). Seriously, her daughter will probably be thrilled that her mum met a real live author of some of her favorite books. I would!

And, as for book-buying fans, I am about to have to go and buy two new copies of Sunshine. One for me, since I despair of ever getting mine back from the book-borrowing-fiend, er, friend, I lent it to, and one for my sis-in-law. I'm hoping to elevate her taste in vampires from the Sookie Stackhouse stuff ... and maybe she'll pass it along to all her book-hungry girlfriends. Hey, maybe she'll love it so much I won't have to agonize over birthday and Christmas presents - until I run out of backlist titles!

"The sally is the fuzzy thing..." -- my four-year-old

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Tue, 14 July 2009 08:47

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Robin wrote on Tue, 14 July 2009 13:44

Note that I am *back on the forum.* Computer Men have been here and . . . given me a *patch*, since THEY don't know what's going on either. But . . . on line! Yaaaaaay!

Oooh - hope the patch holds!

Life always, always finds a way.

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Tue, 14 July 2009 08:58

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Robin wrote on Tue, 14 July 2009 13:53

I've suffered an awful lot of unwelcome PATRONISING hugs, and that has made my nasty personality several wolverine degrees sharper. This usually happens at *book conventions* too when I can't kill anyone.

Urk. This kind of mentality I really don't understand. As if we somehow *need* or *want* sufference and permission to Do Things? Permit me to introduce your head to this saucepan, says I.
And yes, Murphy does sort of preotect us from really snarling back. It sometimes seems that a tendency to patronise people is a prerequisite to promotion. *wanders off muttering*

I should do a blog post on What to Do When You Meet an Author Whose Work You Love. Smile

Yes Please! Smile

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Life always, always finds a way.

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Tue, 14 July 2009 09:01

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Robin wrote on Tue, 14 July 2009 13:53

Robin wrote on Tue, 14 July 2009 07:51

blondviolinist wrote on Mon, 13 July 2009 20:55

P.S. My spell-checker doesn't recognize "pegasi." It must be broken.

I have the same trouble with my spell checker. Word is *such* an inferior product. I had to put it in the dictionary.

. . . The funny thing is it has no problem with Famous Hollywood Producer.

heh. must be a Corporate (Coprolite?) Thing Surprised

)

Life always, always finds a way.

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Tue, 14 July 2009 09:55

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I bet that next practice she has every single one of her copies of your books (just like we all did in London, and you were really sweet about signing them all) for you to sign, and quite possibly a daughter in tow with an autograph book!

Mrs Redboots
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Tue, 14 July 2009 10:47

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it sounds so fantabulous, this random meeting of yours last night! how cool!

I fourth the knowing of you and your books way before J.K. Rowling and Dan Brown, etc. but I also have to get your books from abroad, because barring a second-hand bookstore or ten that I've been to that randomly happen to have a copy of any of your books (which I somehow feel compelled to buy, because obviously other people wouldn't know how to appreciate them as much as I would Wink

. and then give them as presents to my friends or something if I don't own them allready) sadly I don't see them here...
Israel is limited in what books we get from abroad, which is sad becaue we're missing a lot of good things, but the other side of that coin is that I had no idea that there's a sequel to Da Vinci Code, lol. (not that I'm surprised or anything).

I hope the computer patch sticks, or alternately that Computer Men will fix your net problems forever!

"they say that absence makes the heart grow fungus".

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Tue, 14 July 2009 19:35

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I *sort of* realise I'm a strong female character who does stuff. When I cut this statement down into its component parts I think, okay, well, I'm not *weak*, but I think CRANKY is nearer the truth. And then I think, well, yes, I certainly do stuff, but the implication is doing stuff COMPETENTLY and that's a little more controversial. :) Bell ringing last night was a strong argument AGAINST.

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Tue, 14 July 2009 19:36

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. . . And have you seen True Blood, which is apparently a mad success in the States? Just coming out over here the end of the week, and I may even WATCH TV so I can see it?

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Tue, 14 July 2009 19:38

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My impression is that the patronisingness is a way of cutting me down to size. Just Because You're An Author Don't Think You're So Smart. I don't *think* I do. I certainly have my arrogant git moments but they're usually DEFENSIVE. And I DO write books for a living, so I can't help knowing something about *that.*

. . . Oh, and just to reiterate, that's NOT what my bell ringer was doing last night: she was just DELIGHTED. :)

[Updated on: Tue, 14 July 2009 19:39]

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Tue, 14 July 2009 19:41

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Robin wrote on Tue, 14 July 2009 19:36

. . . And have you seen True Blood, which is apparently a mad success in the States? Just coming out over here the end of the week, and I may even WATCH TV so I can see it?

Pollyanna prevents me from repeating what others have said about the show. But...yes, apparently it's madly popular. I-- Mmmprrrphhhhf!

Smooshes!

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Tue, 14 July 2009 19:42

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Until you have queues of people wrapping round large city blocks for your signature, signing books is a PLEASURE. That has always seemed to me to be one of the disadvantages of really huge serious fame, that you lose the pleasure of autographing your books.

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Tue, 14 July 2009 19:43

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Oooooh! Email me! PLEASE! I've only heard babblings of delight!

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Tue, 14 July 2009 21:10

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What a fantastic story! She'll be telling people about that for years.

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Tue, 14 July 2009 23:46

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This makes me feel slightly less like an imbecile over my first meeting of Connie Willis. I just kind of blathered and told her how much I loved her books and then stood there sheepishly while she finished ordering her deli tray from me. I always felt like she probably walked away thinking, "I hate it when they do that." although that's not really her personality. Now I can think that maybe she enjoyed that silly fan girl bit, just a little.

Erika in Colorado

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Wed, 15 July 2009 00:36

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zerlina wrote on Tue, 14 July 2009 04:04

Yes! Absolutely.

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Wed, 15 July 2009 06:22

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Robin wrote on Wed, 15 July 2009 01:38

/self-censors Othering rant

And just to clarify, I think its a delightful story, and didn't think the patronising referred to her at all :0)

I would probably go red, say mphfff or something equally euridite and stand there like a fossilised tree. While inside is nothing but squee.

Life always, always finds a way.

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Wed, 15 July 2009 12:52

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I believe that castles in Scotland are cheap to buy and Very Expensive to run.

It's a whole lot easier meeting authors whose books you like than those whose books you haven't read/actively dislike. Authors are always pleased when you say "I really enjoy your books. [Insert suitable comment about what you particularly like, eg strong female characters, resemblance to the books of Alan Garner, Georgette Heyer, etc]." When I meet the other sort of author I have to keep biting my tongue, and utter meaningless chit chat about the weather, as I believe it's Very Rude to criticise an author's books to their face unless they have specifically asked you to.

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Wed, 15 July 2009 16:21

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anef wrote on Wed, 15 July 2009 12:52

I believe it's Very Rude to criticise an author's books to their face unless they have specifically asked you to.

I can't imagine that criticizing anyone's work to their face would ever NOT be rude, unless you're their boss/editor/supervisor/mother. Smile

First time I met Robin, I told her I liked her signing pen. She had a gorgeous fountain pen, knocked my socks off--I'm a bit of a pen geek. I think I'd planned to say something bland like hey, I like your books--and it came out "Whoa! That pen is AWESOME!" Smile

[Updated on: Wed, 15 July 2009 16:28]

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Wed, 15 July 2009 22:07

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Robin wrote on Tue, 14 July 2009 07:51

I should do a blog post on What to Do When You Meet an Author Whose Work You Love. Smile

This is my favourite, by John Scalzi. But then I like most things that John writes.

I can't believe that people give PATRONISING hugs to you at book conventions. I mean, really, who does that? Especially to someone you don't really know? Even if I met an author whose books I really didn't like, I'd be polite, at the very least.

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Thu, 16 July 2009 10:31

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Hmm- Yes, I've seen it. In fact, I've just joined my sis-in-law's group of girlfriends who watch it weekly. I'll try to stay Pollyanna....

They're based on the Sookie Stackhouse novels by Charlaine Harris. (They're light, and I finish them in two days usually, even with a 2 year old and full time job - so I'm rushing through, and not savoring - which is one of my criteria for judging a book.) The novels are sweeter and more innocent than the show - which a coworker of mine characterized as borderline soft-core porn. I missed most of the first season - and the heavy sex seems to have toned down some.... Some of the concepts in the books are interesting - the premise is that vampires have 'come out of the coffin' and are trying to mainstream (with all that entails - I'm not going to spoil it).

I do like the reluctant heroine - she does things instead of letting them happen, and she always follows her grandmother's advice - "Women are strong enough to bear whatever they have to." (paraphrasing).

It's odd that I've fallen for every ink-and-paper vampire main character I've run across - except for these. They strangely don't do anything for me. Maybe it's that I live in the south and a southern accent isn't my thing. Also, I personally am uncomfortable with the somewhat graphic sex in both the show and the books. Anybody else seen/read these? Opinions on the vampires?

*G* I just did something subversive at my local big-box-bookstore yesterday. They had a display labeled Vampires on a table on the central aisle - and it didn't have SUNSHINE. So I moved all the copies from the stacks. Smile

"The sally is the fuzzy thing..." -- my four-year-old

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Thu, 16 July 2009 10:44

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Hmm again - would the stunning popularity of the new HBO series be a clue to which novel the Famous Hollywood Types are after??

"The sally is the fuzzy thing..." -- my four-year-old

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