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Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17178] Sun, 14 June 2009 19:22 Go to next message
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Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE


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Re: Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17182 is a reply to message #17178 ] Sun, 14 June 2009 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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England has some of the *coolest* titles around. The US being such a young country, we don't have that awesome stuff. Which is kind of lame, since didn't we pretty much steal our culture from *everyone else*? Who was in charge of the titles? Slacker.

Congratulations again, Peter! This is truly amazing and wonderful news!


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Re: Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17183 is a reply to message #17178 ] Sun, 14 June 2009 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Congratulations again, Peter! Of course you are thrilled.

Peter wrote and Robin footnoted (is that a verb? If it isn't, it ought to be.)

If you don’t know 1066 and All That, their magisterial run-down on English history, get hold of a copy. Schoolboy humour raised to the level of the sublime. ^

^ Seconded.


Thirded! Only it's one of those things where you have to know your history in order to appreciate it. But if you do, it's fabulous!


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Re: Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17184 is a reply to message #17182 ] Sun, 14 June 2009 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jmeadows wrote on Sun, 14 June 2009 19:32

England has some of the *coolest* titles around. The US being such a young country, we don't have that awesome stuff. Which is kind of lame, since didn't we pretty much steal our culture from *everyone else*?


I think "culture" has been swapped around like swapcards for thousands of years... so you have plenty of company! *g* Wink

Congratulations again Peter. Smile If only they gave out crates of champagne with the title.... Very Happy Am looking forward to hearing about the next installment of the tale!



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Re: Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17185 is a reply to message #17178 ] Sun, 14 June 2009 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE

Please tell me I'm not the only person who misread the footnotes and thought that the "FRSL" stood for "Fourth Sea Lord". I had a mental image of Peter (a very young Peter?) on horseback in the Queen's coronation parade, and was trying to figure out what the abbreviation would be for "First Sea Lord." I didn't figure it out until I read Robin's second footnote.

whose garter came undone so that the mediaeval equivalent of her pantyhose collapsed
And that's when people realized there was a desperate need to invent elastic.

If you don’t know 1066 and All That, their magisterial run-down on English history, get hold of a copy. Schoolboy humour raised to the level of the sublime.


Ooh, I liked this book, and haven't read it in a while. I'll have to borrow it from the library again.

Yog-Sothoth? Really? That's hysterical! (Ok, ok, so I'm sure it's fake. Still... )


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Re: Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17186 is a reply to message #17178 ] Sun, 14 June 2009 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jodi, I agree with you. "Wonderfully odd titles/honours-[name]creator" position somehow seems to have been neglected. Slackers indeed.

Also. Order of the Yellow Elephant? Why does that sound familiar??? Oh yes. [I am so pathetic]
from old (lj) Days In The Life, March 3 2008


Peter just read this aloud to me from the GUARDIAN, adding, one of my masters at Eton had the Order of the Yellow Elephant Third Class.
I wouldn’t make something like this up.



That's why.
I still think it sounds cool.


And congratulations once again!
Re: Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17187 is a reply to message #17186 ] Sun, 14 June 2009 20:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hon Peter wrote on Mon, 15 June 2009 11:57

there was this noble lady at some royal function (no, not the bathroom) whose garter came undone so that the mediaeval equivalent of her pantyhose collapsed (don’t ask me about the mechanics of mediaeval underwear)



You can ask me about the mechanics of mediaeval underwear - I have done a small amt of research in this area Smile

And I didnt get in first time round but Hearty Congrats!!!! May you have champagne and chocolate in celebration!
Re: Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17188 is a reply to message #17186 ] Sun, 14 June 2009 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Julia wrote on Mon, 15 June 2009 00:57

Also. Order of the Yellow Elephant? Why does that sound familiar??? Oh yes. [I am so pathetic]
from old (lj) Days In The Life, March 3 2008


Peter just read this aloud to me from the GUARDIAN, adding, one of my masters at Eton had the Order of the Yellow Elephant Third Class.
I wouldn’t make something like this up.



Thank you Julia - I was just starting to rack my brain when you solved the "why is that familiar" tickle in my brain for me.

B_twin_1, can't you name your puppies Yog Sogoth and cousin Itt? Such appropriate names Very Happy ... and I'm forever blotting my copy book, just didn't realise it was regional Smile

More congratulations Peter, and thank you for a lovely explanatory post


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Re: Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17192 is a reply to message #17182 ] Mon, 15 June 2009 00:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think maybe we don't have cool titles because we'd know we'd made them up just to copycat...and that isn't cool. Or something.

We need to get over it and make them up...we have some icons in the past: Order of the Washington Cherry Tree, (in rank order, Axe, Hatchet, Chip.) Order of the Lincoln Log Cabin (Saw, Plow, Hammer.)

Hmmm. Maybe just go with legendary stuff? Orders of Paul Bunyan, Pecos Bill, Slewfoot Sue?

No, that's not working. Someone ELSE make them up.

And beyond all the joking around: Congratulations by the double-handful.


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Re: Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17193 is a reply to message #17178 ] Mon, 15 June 2009 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The whole honours system is like that, dotty-sounding but mysteriously practical. It’s a formal attempt to express and strengthen the coherence of our society.

Formality, especially when it's left over from an earlier time, seems dotty as often as not, but this is a fine aim. I think we need coherent societies, as long as the idea of coherence doesn't get transmuted into a hidebound refusal to incorporate new things into the social pattern.

since history teaching has gone to pieces since I was a lad, huff huff snort

And not just in the UK, either. Sad


If you don’t know 1066 and All That, their magisterial run-down on English history, get hold of a copy. Schoolboy humour raised to the level of the sublime. ^

^ Seconded.

YES, hurrah!



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Re: Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17194 is a reply to message #17182 ] Mon, 15 June 2009 02:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jmeadows wrote on Mon, 15 June 2009 01:32

England has some of the *coolest* titles around. The US being such a young country, we don't have that awesome stuff. Which is kind of lame, since didn't we pretty much steal our culture from *everyone else*? Who was in charge of the titles? Slacker.



We are supposed to be a classless society! (Yeah, right! Tell that to the Kennedys and the Rockafellers.) Thus, no titles.
Re: Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17195 is a reply to message #17178 ] Mon, 15 June 2009 05:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I’ve always told people that I wouldn’t be interested in anything that wasn’t hereditary, but now that it’s for real of course I’m thrilled to bits.

Congratulations once more, but I think you should persist in your quest. Surely a baronetcy is the least you should expect!


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Re: Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17202 is a reply to message #17178 ] Mon, 15 June 2009 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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since history teaching has gone to pieces since I was a lad, huff huff snort,‡
‡ You can imagine him rattling his gold-headed cane here. He doesn’t have a gold-headed cane. Maybe his next birthday.

May I borrow the cane, once it has been bestowed? I'm entirely with Peter on this.

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the courtiers were jeering at the poor woman when the king, Ed III I seem to think, stepped forward, knelt and with his own with his own royal hand replaced the garter

I should imagine Ed III had had a hand in untying it in the first place. From all accounts, he was one heck of a progenitor... I think some estimates place about 80% of English people as having him as an ancestor!


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Re: Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17205 is a reply to message #17182 ] Mon, 15 June 2009 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When Peter first offered to do this post he wanted me to tell him what the American EQUIVALENT to stuff like the OBE is. I didn't know! I felt very stupid! Only there really ISN'T anything except a few military gongs!

Slackers indeed! Ben Franklin, I expected BETTER of you!
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Well, you only have to know a little . . . you will then be INSPIRED to go find out more. :) I read it for the first time when I was still quite young and ignorant.
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Yog-Sothoth? Really? That's hysterical! (Ok, ok, so I'm sure it's fake. Still... )


QE II has never registered even a flicker of the needle on the 'humour' meter. Yog-Sothoth is DEFINTELY fake.
Re: Guest Post by The Hon Peter Malcolm de Brissac Dickinson, FRSL†, OBE [message #17213 is a reply to message #17205 ] Mon, 15 June 2009 21:16 Go to previous message
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Robin wrote on Mon, 15 June 2009 19:27

When Peter first offered to do this post he wanted me to tell him what the American EQUIVALENT to stuff like the OBE is. I didn't know! I felt very stupid!

Well, the Kennedy Center Honors for the performing arts, for starters. (Yes, the president is almost always there for the awards. I don't think he personally bestows them, however.) Of course there are the military awards like the Congressional Medal of Honor and the Purple Heart. I know there are other awards for civilians, but honestly I think Americans care more about the Oscars and the Grammys... and I'm not sure how much we even care about those.


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