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The only line of that song I can remember right now is the first one, "Tell me where have you been, Billy boy, Billy boy, tell me where have you been, darling Billy?"
"The center of every man's existence is a dream. Death, disease, insanity, are merely material accidents, like a toothache or a twisted ankle. That these brutal forces always besiege and often capture the citadel does not prove that they are the citadel."
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12126 is a reply to message #12095 ] |
Fri, 27 February 2009 01:25 |
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 Diane in MN
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| Robin wrote on Thu, 26 February 2009 18:17 |
'Can she milk a heifer calf, Billy Boy, Billy Boy, can she milk a heifer calf, Billy Boy'? What's the matter with you people?
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Well, one recognizes the song, of course, although I never heard the heifer calf verse. But isn't a heifer a maiden cow, as we might say, and therefore in no condition to give milk?
"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12127 is a reply to message #12097 ] |
Fri, 27 February 2009 01:35 |
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Diane in MN
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| Robin wrote on Thu, 26 February 2009 18:21 |
I don't like tile because of the GROUTING. The LAST thing I want to do is have to clean horizontal grouted tiles every day of my life. ]
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I'm not nutso about the grout part--in fact, after 16 years, mine should probably be redone--but if you have dark grout (mine is black) it will not show stains. There are products like Silestone that incorporate quartz into a plastic matrix; some of the colors look much more natural than Corian used to, and it's non-porous and non-reactive. Expensive, though, and it can be stained or scalded. There's always stainless steel, if you don't mind looking like a restaurant kitchen and have BIG BUCKS. 
"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12129 is a reply to message #12127 ] |
Fri, 27 February 2009 02:32 |
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| Diane in MN wrote on Fri, 27 February 2009 19:35 |
There's always stainless steel, if you don't mind looking like a restaurant kitchen and have BIG BUCKS.
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Ooooh I seriously LUST after a full stainless kitchen bench - SERIOUSLY.
I quite like the restaurant kitchen look, and its mega easy to keep clean and has all the benefits of being able to put hot things on it but not break things as badly as granite etc.
*sigh*
Now, now Im all about the cupboard space, thats all I am putting into my kitchen and am quivering with anticipation - installation is a week today!
Am hoping I wont have my own contractor woe stories to tell afterwards
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12130 is a reply to message #12124 ] |
Fri, 27 February 2009 02:39 |
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| Diane in MN wrote on Fri, 27 February 2009 07:18 |
| Fake Frenchie wrote on Thu, 26 February 2009 02:33 |
French windows, for those who don't know, open into the room, thus forbidding anything place on the window sill and/or in front of the window.
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This is very interesting. You probably know that French windows here open OUT. I was surprised to find them so common in newer construction when we moved here 16 years ago; possibly they make a tighter seal against winter weather than sash windows do. I don't think they'd be so popular if they opened into the room.
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Oh, those are called English windows here. I would have gotten them for the upstairs windows if that had been an option. But unfortunately, despite the fact that England is just across the channel, French stores don't sell English windows. And with the exchange rate and shipping, importing them from England would cost just under shipping the sash windows in from the States. So, I decided to go with what I really wanted.
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12135 is a reply to message #12120 ] |
Fri, 27 February 2009 06:53 |
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| L.R.K. wrote on Thu, 26 February 2009 23:56 |
| Erika in Colorado wrote on Fri, 27 February 2009 01:50 |
| Robin wrote on Thu, 26 February 2009 17:17 |
'Can she milk a heifer calf, Billy Boy, Billy Boy, can she milk a heifer calf, Billy Boy'? What's the matter with you people?
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I totally got it! My mom used to sing that song all the time when I was a kid. Her favorite verse was the "cherry pie" verse because she loves to bake cherry pies.
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I've heard it, too - "she's a young thing and cannot leave her mother" - but I can't remember where or when, and that's driving me insane!
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Did you ever see the animated "Puff the Magic Dragon" special? That's where I heard it.
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12136 is a reply to message #12059 ] |
Fri, 27 February 2009 07:04 |
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No. (sobs disconsolately) But thank you anyway!
EDIT: I think, I believe...it might have been in one of the Sarah, Plain and Tall TV-movies with Glenn Close and Christopher Walken. I still can't quite remember, but I've lost that nagging itch-I-can't-get-at feeling (which is so much more horrible because it's inside one's head rather than between the shoulder-blades), so there's a great likelihood I'm right. (Whether I am or not, they are lovely films, and warmly recommended! )
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Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean, like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12139 is a reply to message #12118 ] |
Fri, 27 February 2009 10:21 |
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| skating librarian wrote on Thu, 26 February 2009 21:20 |
It's probably too late for your builder, but I if I had a furnace, I would go for radiant floors (no radiators, just gently warm floors ... doubtless great for hellhounds). My dream is solar collectors attached to the piping for radiant heated flooring ... when I was a kid we had radiant heating in the floors and I've never forgotten it. The whole house was warm, no draft from hot air registers, no clanking, hissing radiators ...
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For that matter, I think radiant floors can be done with electric coils. No need even to hook them to a radiator. I've been seriously considering it for the bathroom when we do the renovation and I saw it in a DIY book; apparently it's simple for those people unlike myself who are not mechanically challenged... (No, I wasn't planning to do it myself; I was going to have the guys who know what they're doing do it.)
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12140 is a reply to message #12109 ] |
Fri, 27 February 2009 10:46 |
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| Robin wrote on Fri, 27 February 2009 00:52 |
I can't wait on radiators, because It All Started with the weight bearing attic floor, which I MUST have, only building regs won't allow a mere weight bearing attic floor, you have to have STAIRS and CLEARANCES which involve moving the ancient hot water tank, which won't move, which means a new boiler, which means a certain number of dead radiators, and they had to take one out already to pour the FOOTINGS for the WALLS bearing the attic floor, and . . .
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But why can your current radiators not be re-used? I know my parents' ones have been re-used several times over the past 50 years as boilers have come and gone.... including the most recent incarnation with the swish ground heating (which I gather is working quite like magic, so I'm told).
Or are they just too manky? In which case, almost worth investing in the expensive ones - they'll last a good 50+ years.
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12166 is a reply to message #12139 ] |
Fri, 27 February 2009 20:06 |
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We have used electricity for radiant floors twice. Once in the bathroom using an electric mat installed under the tiles. In our addition, we embedded electric cables in the concrete slab and then stained and polished the concrete. In both cases, it is terrific and very comforting when the weather is cold.
Karen
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12169 is a reply to message #12073 ] |
Fri, 27 February 2009 20:12 |
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Hi dancemoore, welcome! Glad you followed from LJ.
And all of these projects have been on hold because we had to: replace all the windows with hurricane-protective ones, replace our water heater, and then get ye olde solare pumpe (installation date: 1983) fixed when it froze. It hasn't frozen like that here in 15 years.
Gosh, just as you reach critical momentum for a particular project it seems fated that some other (usually bigger, more expensive) project rears its head and leaps to the front of the queue. Still waiting for my new kitchen... sigh
Someone says "pie" and we all go on alert, like meercats. "Pie? Where?" - Blackbear
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12179 is a reply to message #12176 ] |
Sat, 28 February 2009 03:29 |
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| Diane in MN wrote on Sat, 28 February 2009 07:31 |
| Fake Frenchie wrote on Fri, 27 February 2009 13:55 |
We just installed a geothermal heating system with radiant heat in the floors. We think it provides very even heat.
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Is this a ground source heat pump? If I ever get to build my final house (not too likely, but one can hope), that's what I want--with radiant floors, too.
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I don't know what a "ground source heat pump" is, no doubt because they call it something different in French. We have 150m2 of horizontal sensor piping filled with some kind of calorific liquid under 80cm of earth, leading to a heat pump, which does the opposite of a refridgerator and heats up the other circuit of calorific liquid circulating in the concrete slab.
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12185 is a reply to message #12179 ] |
Sat, 28 February 2009 08:38 |
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| Fake Frenchie wrote on Sat, 28 February 2009 08:29 |
I don't know what a "ground source heat pump" is, no doubt because they call it something different in French. We have 150m2 of horizontal sensor piping filled with some kind of calorific liquid under 80cm of earth, leading to a heat pump, which does the opposite of a refridgerator and heats up the other circuit of calorific liquid circulating in the concrete slab.
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My parents have been having this installed this winter (which explains why we had the coldest winter for 20 years, as they had no heating); it's only just up and running now, but Mum says it's absolutely amazing, blissfully warm, water absolutely boiling and scouring out the pipes (the plumber is to come and turn it down a bit, or they'll have leaks). She appears to be a happy bunny....
Mrs Redboots
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12189 is a reply to message #12178 ] |
Sat, 28 February 2009 10:28 |
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| Fake Frenchie wrote on Sat, 28 February 2009 03:25 |
| kfoster2047 wrote on Sat, 28 February 2009 02:06 |
the concrete slab and then stained and polished the concrete.
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Could you give explanations of this process? I proposed this to my husband, and he thought it would be the equivalent of waxing. I'm sure it's not, but I don't know anything about it. Also, could you give details about upkeep?
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When they poured the slab for the concrete, they had embedded electric cables in the rebar. The concrete was then gone over continuously as it hardened in order to smooth out the surface. (Looking back on it now, we should have also gone over it with a grinder if we wanted a perfectly smooth surface but I like the fact that it's not perfect.) Then we stained it using an acid stain - two coats - neutralized it and let it dry. Then we applied an acrylic sealer. This is a semi-matt surface which I like. There are other sealers that actually put a thicker, shinier layer over it if you want a more polished finish.
If you do decide to do this, note that it is best to let it cure for at least a month before you let the construction workers on it because it can be gouged until it cures - and they spill things, usually permanent staining things.
As far as upkeep after that - just a damp mop.
Probably more than you wanted to know but if you have any other questions, I would be happy to try and answer them.
Karen
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12191 is a reply to message #12101 ] |
Sat, 28 February 2009 12:40 |
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Sorry, but granite doesn't necessarity give of a gass that'll blow away. Some kinds emits a radiation as the isotopes decay, but if I remember my geology 101 correctly none of the continent cores have finished doing so. I have - perhaps foolishly - assumed that the types of granite containing radioactive isotopes don't get used for household products.
Granite is composed of several types of mineral grains. AfaIr quarts (clear), feltspar (red), and plagioclas (greyish white)are the most common and perfectly stable/harmless. Any radioactivity would be in the interesting little flecks that might be uranium.
Anette, the Great Dane
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| Re: Radiators, And Newel Posts [message #12195 is a reply to message #12194 ] |
Sat, 28 February 2009 14:49 |
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No, you can grind it smooth later using what our contractor calls a "whirly bird" - a large grinding machine. Also, you can stain it and seal it at any time.
Karen
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Sat, 28 February 2009 16:48 |
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| kfoster2047 wrote on Sat, 28 February 2009 14:49 |
No, you can grind it smooth later using what our contractor calls a "whirly bird" - a large grinding machine. Also, you can stain it and seal it at any time.
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Just make sure they use a bag to collect the dust (like a vacuum bag). AND don't be living in or soon after the sealant goes down. Most sealants have dreadful off-gassing qualities - especially the polyurethane based ones. A friend of ours became unable to live in her new house for 5 years after she became "chemical sensitive" because of the polyurethane based sealant/finish used on the concrete floor. (Of course they use it on timber floors as well to get that highly polished outcome.)
There are some safer products around, it just pays to do some homework.
I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel ~ Blackadder
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