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 b_twin_1
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| Re: Other people [message #11904 is a reply to message #11901 ] |
Sun, 22 February 2009 00:59  |
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Diane in MN
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Uh, wait a frelling minute here! How about articulate after the witless buffoon we’ve tried not to listen to for the last eight years?!?
Exactly correct. As a woman and a feminist*, I can appreciate that people can be a little sensitive, but as Dr. Freud (allegedly) said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and comments about Obama's verbal abilities are not necessarily coded racist remarks. Bush may have been able to escape education even as he was sliding through Yale, but given that Obama is the product of a quality prep school, Harvard, and Columbia, and that he taught at a university, and that he's a lawyer, he damn well ought to be articulate.
*Old joke: Question: How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb? Answer: THAT'S NOT FUNNY! (Sensitivity comes in all flavors. . . 
Although I’d kill for a good pair of comfortable, flexible, lightweight, waterproof walking shoes that actually fit me
Me too. Add: that would not need replacing after a few months. These would be the Platonic Idea of walking shoes.
Peter wants to play bridge. That’s three more people. I want to ring bells. That’s at least five other people, plus a bell tower.
There's probably bridge software out there, but the bell tower is quite a hurdle to get over.
"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
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| Re: Other people [message #11911 is a reply to message #11910 ] |
Sun, 22 February 2009 03:48 |
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| Fake Frenchie wrote on Sun, 22 February 2009 03:09 |
"But maybe the second nonwhite president in twenty or fifty years will have an easier time because of Obama."
I'm worried that if/when he fails, it will be an excuse for not electing the second non-white president.
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Yeah ....the failures of all those white presidents probably won't be mentioned......
I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel ~ Blackadder
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| Re: Other people [message #11914 is a reply to message #11901 ] |
Sun, 22 February 2009 05:46 |
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Other people are exhausting. They require attention and conversation (and attention during the conversation!) and I'm pretty sure some people thrive off interaction the way it drains others. *flail* Maybe they're sucking energy from us.
And I wanted to say something else, but I lack the brain right now. Urgh.
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| Re: Other people [message #11918 is a reply to message #11901 ] |
Sun, 22 February 2009 08:27 |
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It’s another spectacular as-if-spring day, got up to 51°F this afternoon, the jungle is outdoors and humming to itself*, the sky is sunny and clear,
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Yes - and I don't trust it! I just know that as soon as I do something slightly temperature-dependent, all the ice is going to come back... Mind you, we've been doing a bit of clearing out in the small pond this morning, to leave some room for frogs. There were already three nice big fat females and one male in there, that we had gently to urge to one side for a couple of minutes. They soon slid down into the spaces we'd made. I'm trusting to their weather sense, hoping they don't start spawning too soon.
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Although I’d kill for a good pair of comfortable, flexible, lightweight, waterproof walking shoes that actually fit me
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How about having some made for you? It's not that expensive, really, if you get something that's going to last a few years.
Other people can be trying, I agree. Along the coast here there are a fair number of people I would classify as very elderly. They are a nightmare with road crossing. One particular little town one has practically to drive at 10 miles an hour everywhere, in case some little tottery person steps off the kerb just in front of you because, well, 'I always cross here at 10.30 on Thursdays'!
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| Re: Other people [message #11919 is a reply to message #11904 ] |
Sun, 22 February 2009 08:32 |
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| Diane in MN wrote on Sun, 22 February 2009 00:59 |
Uh, wait a frelling minute here! How about articulate after the witless buffoon we’ve tried not to listen to for the last eight years?!?
Exactly correct. As a woman and a feminist*, I can appreciate that people can be a little sensitive, but as Dr. Freud (allegedly) said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and comments about Obama's verbal abilities are not necessarily coded racist remarks. Bush may have been able to escape education even as he was sliding through Yale, but given that Obama is the product of a quality prep school, Harvard, and Columbia, and that he taught at a university, and that he's a lawyer, he damn well ought to be articulate.
*Old joke: Question: How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb? Answer: THAT'S NOT FUNNY! (Sensitivity comes in all flavors. . . :)
Although I’d kill for a good pair of comfortable, flexible, lightweight, waterproof walking shoes that actually fit me
Me too. Add: that would not need replacing after a few months. These would be the Platonic Idea of walking shoes.
Peter wants to play bridge. That’s three more people. I want to ring bells. That’s at least five other people, plus a bell tower.
There's probably bridge software out there, but the bell tower is quite a hurdle to get over. :)
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Yes, that is one of my FAVOURITE lightbulb jokes. And of course being a feminist *I* get to tell it. :) Some of my other favourites involve minority groups I am NOT. . . . The original article is interesting partly because she's so obviously (a) thoughtful and intelligent (b) so busy worrying she can't see anything BUT worry, and (I think) it's skewing her view. Of course I speak as an anglo, and a fringey crunchy granola feminist anglo at that, but even so. . . . Oh, and shoes that didn't wear out in a few months! That's my poor All-Stars' problem--they weren't MADE for Hampshire mud. Sigh. . . . There is bridge software out there but there is ALSO bell software. Peter uses his bridge software but bridge is essentially about staring at your cards--bell ringing is PHYSICAL. There are ringers that use the software and actually learn new methods that way. And then there are those of us who can't use it at all. I keep saying it's just one *more* frelling thing to *learn*. It's like the difference between tower bells and handbells--yes, there's a CONNECTION, but they are two very different skills. I think bell ringing on a computer is a THIRD very different skill. ***ARRRRRGH.*** Speaking of sensitivities. I would LOVE to be able to use the software and DISGUISE how long it takes me to learn a new method by being able to do some of it privately.
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| Re: Other people [message #11929 is a reply to message #11924 ] |
Sun, 22 February 2009 09:45 |
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| Robin wrote on Sun, 22 February 2009 09:01 |
Yes! Extroverts! You and I are introverts! And there's a special category for Emotional Vampires which is where it all goes wrong!
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Perhaps we could put the extroverts in a room with the Emotional Vampires. Then they'd leave us alone, and I'm fairly sure they'd all enjoy each others' company! ;)
Smooshes!
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| Re: Other people [message #11931 is a reply to message #11904 ] |
Sun, 22 February 2009 10:41 |
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| Diane in MN wrote on Sun, 22 February 2009 05:59 |
There's probably bridge software out there, but the bell tower is quite a hurdle to get over.
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There is definitely bridge software out there, I've seen it (I don't play, in which refusal I am thankful to be supported by the Husband, but my brother-in-law and my son-in-law are both addicts and have taught my sister and my daughter to be; my parents always were addicted!). And perhaps, with broadband, one could ring virtual bells in real time?
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Although I’d kill for a good pair of comfortable, flexible, lightweight, waterproof walking shoes that actually fit me
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Oddly enough, the best walking-shoes I've ever found were very cheap - about £4.99 - in Lidl, of all places. But they don't have them every week, alas. I'm on my second pair now, and love them for walking in.
Mrs Redboots
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| Re: Other people [message #11933 is a reply to message #11901 ] |
Sun, 22 February 2009 11:36 |
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Although I’d kill for a good pair of comfortable, flexible, lightweight, waterproof walking shoes that actually fit me
You know, come to think of it, have you looked at Keen shoes at all? They've taken the hiking/camping world by storm over here in the last year or so. I've got a pair of these and I love 'em--I do a fair amount of hiking over and through creeks, so I like a river shoe. But if you've got a place over there that carries 'em, you might try out their non-sandal shoes just to see if they fit you, they're waterproof and well-made. I'm thinking of a second pair for this summer myself.
"The time is always right to do what's right."--MLK Jr.
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| Re: Other people [message #11935 is a reply to message #11911 ] |
Sun, 22 February 2009 12:34 |
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| b_twin_1 wrote on Sun, 22 February 2009 09:48 |
| Fake Frenchie wrote on Sun, 22 February 2009 03:09 |
"But maybe the second nonwhite president in twenty or fifty years will have an easier time because of Obama."
I'm worried that if/when he fails, it will be an excuse for not electing the second non-white president.
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Yeah ....the failures of all those white presidents probably won't be mentioned......
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Exactly! That's why I said it would be an "excuse".
[Updated on: Sun, 22 February 2009 12:35]
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| Re: Other people [message #11939 is a reply to message #11916 ] |
Sun, 22 February 2009 14:37 |
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Please enlighten me. What are celandine? What I am hoiking out of my yard are goats head thorns. Horrible Sputnik shaped seeds that will kill any bike tire inner tube including the thorn proof ones in one tidy go. My yard is infested and my DH (the footless wonder boy) spends hours with a weed digger prying them up.
I wonder if Warren Harding is still considered the worst president we had. The parallels between the president the times, the money crash, and the president faced with the mess are striking.
Dances
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| Re: Other people [message #11941 is a reply to message #11924 ] |
Sun, 22 February 2009 15:49 |
b_twin_1
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| Robin wrote on Sun, 22 February 2009 09:01 |
Yes! Extroverts! You and I are introverts! And there's a special category for Emotional Vampires which is where it all goes wrong!
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Oh! Emotional Vampires. Of course. Perfect. Much better than just saying "high maintenance"!
I'll admit to being on the introvert side of the room....
I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel ~ Blackadder
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| Re: Other people [message #11958 is a reply to message #11956 ] |
Mon, 23 February 2009 05:25 |
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| BlueRose wrote on Mon, 23 February 2009 03:39 |
Its laid on a bit thick, but its an interesting dissection of the introvert vs extrovert difference.
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Cool article. Thanks!
Smooshes!
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| Re: Other people [message #11990 is a reply to message #11980 ] |
Mon, 23 February 2009 21:31 |
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If you are ever in Vermont in late May stop by to see my English Bluebells. I aspire to a woods full of them, but my patch is spreading very, very slowly. I try to help out by removing the competition (be it crabgrass or whatever) but it's slow going.
Of course its also possible that the stony soil is rather a drag for them ... I recently checked out the soil type for my little patch of ground in the county soil survey and discovered that it can be up to 70% stone fragments.
What the glaciers didn't scrape bare they left strewn around in bits and pieces. Leaf mould can only do so much.
"Winning a war is like winning an earthquake" Jeanette Rankin
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| Re: Other people [message #12000 is a reply to message #11998 ] |
Tue, 24 February 2009 07:45 |
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| Mrs Redboots wrote on Tue, 24 February 2009 07:23 |
Hmmm, I can't work out how I uploaded photos before, or I'd upload one of my father's woods, which, at the right time of year, are a sea of blue, so gorgeous!
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Do you have a Flickr account? You can stick 'em there, right click and grab the image URL, and use the image tag to put them here. (Button on the top that looks sort of like a pen stabbing a piece of paper until it's bloody.)
Smooshes!
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| Re: Other people [message #12011 is a reply to message #11939 ] |
Tue, 24 February 2009 17:35 |
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Celandines are fairly small weeds with wintergreen leaves and yellow star-ish flowers around May. They are fairly pretty, and cover the ground well, but...
They put out leaves in autumn and grow all winter, sending energy down to their roots, so removing the leaves in the spring cleaning don't weaken them.
The roots break easily, and each bit start a new rosette of leaves, so it's no use trying to dig them up, unless you remove a lot of soil you'll just spread them.
Once they've bloomed the leaves wilt, and the ground cover looks decayed, just when the rest of the plants look pretty and new.
Anette, the Great Dane
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| Re: Other people [message #12032 is a reply to message #12011 ] |
Tue, 24 February 2009 21:44 |
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sounds like thistles with better flowers. If there was a way to eat thistles I would have the best green-market garden you could imagine. That and bindweed plus goats head thorns. yum.
Dances
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