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Robin's Playing the piano again hehe


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Recital soon?

;)


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So, how's the flute coming? :)
Re: Playing the piano again [message #11697 is a reply to message #11693 ] Tue, 17 February 2009 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Now, now! Jodi is too busy being a moderator to practice her flute. Plus her cat won't let her. What about the story of how you got your piano, promised repeatedly? Please?

Your how much gore can you take is ringing true for me at the moment. I'm the person who wanted to be in Neurobiology and flinched hard and turned tail into developmental molecular biology of plants when she saw her first rat killed, so gore shy is one way to put it. And right now in Athens we're having the Bodies exhibition - those bodies specially preserved and displayed in interesting ways. A bunch of people I know and whose opinion I respect found it enlightening, illuminating and fascinating, but I am just not sure. My natural curiosity is fighting my natural squeamishness to a draw. Any opinions anyone.


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Robin wrote on Tue, 17 February 2009 19:12

So, how's the flute coming? :)


LOL!!!

Robin wins this round.

I'll be ready for the next! :p

[Updated on: Tue, 17 February 2009 19:24]


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Re: Playing the piano again [message #11699 is a reply to message #11693 ] Tue, 17 February 2009 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[ATTEMPT 3]--Double aargh. I've written this twice, now. Computers are very annoying-- I started replying over half an hour ago! sigh--

[ATTEMPT 2] -Aargh! I am typing on my laptop, and above the left arrow is another arrow key, which goes back a page, and I constantly hit it when I am going for the shift key... and so, while the page back button is very useful when I want to, say, go back a page, it constantly, without fail, jumps underneath my fingers whenever I am trying to type something, and I then lose the whole thing. Sigh-

ANYWAY...
[ATTEMPT 1]
Hope your hands recover[/hand recovers] quickly. General brilliance [as usual]. Refraining from commentary on reference librarians.
Oh, but WAIT-- did I miss some crucial chapter in the "About Me" section here, or on your old website biographical info page? You were an ambulance driver? And moreover, you were an ambulance driver but not an EMT?

Now, as I type, it sounds vaguely familiar, as if you may have mentioned it once and then I forgot. But that generally isn't something easily forgotten: "You know, Robin McKinley... brilliant and wonderful author, lives in England, married to Peter Dickinson, keeps a blog, grows roses and things, has two astounding and adorable dogs, rings bells and things-- oh, and she used to have a motorcycle. And she wears pink All Stars. Pretends that she isn’t good at things like keeping a blog or ringing bells or piano playing, when in fact she is quite accomplished at all three? Is very awesome? Oh, and I think she once said something about driving an ambulance too.”
At any rate, I didn’t realize that one could simply be an ambulance driver- I thought that if you are an EMT, you just get in the ambulance and drive yourself over, or have another person drive, so that if necessary you can tend to whoever you are going to help, …. So I guess it makes sense, then. Never mind.

Oh well. At any rate, hooray for piano playing gladness!

:)

[Updated on: Tue, 17 February 2009 19:49]

Re: Playing the piano again [message #11700 is a reply to message #11698 ] Tue, 17 February 2009 19:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jodi, I'm curious about the cat not letting you practice the flute ... does it rub against it as you try to practice?

That's my excuse for never quite getting the hang of the penny whistle. One of the cats would jump up into my lap and bump her head against it whenever I tried to play.


Is this the hand which hurt last fall (is that when it was?)?

Speaking of homeopathy, in his column this week a local homeopath reports that to avoid colds one should get a minimum of seven hours of sleep a night. EIght is better.

Lovely reason for me to insist on sleeping as much as I want!


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skating librarian wrote on Tue, 17 February 2009 19:39

Jodi, I'm curious about the cat not letting you practice the flute ... does it rub against it as you try to practice?


That's just Susan's excuse for me. ;)

Kippy flees the room when I bring out the flute. I'm pretty sure she hides under the bed until it's back in the case.

Really, really good for my ego. ;)


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You see, I was right: negative reinforcement that keeps you from practicing. I'm sure, too, that if you leave your flute on your desk, she throws it off. Wink


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Re: Playing the piano again [message #11703 is a reply to message #11693 ] Tue, 17 February 2009 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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PFFFFT! I don't care what you do with your library books! As long as you're not a college student asking for the shortest book possible, I don't judge. Wink

Actually, we did have that drilled into us, in my Reference class anyway. It can be considered an invasion of privacy to even ask why the patron wants the information. One of the "What would you do?" hypotheticals used was a middle-aged woman asking the librarian how much cyanide would kill a 180-lb man...and she turns out to be a mystery writer. (Peter should appreciate that one too.) I've seen an online librarian fight break out over whether to help someone who wants to grow marijuana (most of us were for, because it could be for medical reasons but again we wouldn't ask about something like that).

BUT we also know that everyone with half a brain now Googles stuff like that. Smile
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Susan from Athens wrote on Tue, 17 February 2009 18:21

And right now in Athens we're having the Bodies exhibition - those bodies specially preserved and displayed in interesting ways. A bunch of people I know and whose opinion I respect found it enlightening, illuminating and fascinating, but I am just not sure. My natural curiosity is fighting my natural squeamishness to a draw. Any opinions anyone.


That exhibit was here a year or so ago and I really wanted to see it, but shamefully never made it to the science museum. Some friends went and liked it a lot. If the advertising pictures were accurate, the exhibits would have looked more like models than like people, so squeamishness might not kick in.

I'm not generally squeamish, but I completely understand about the rat. We were supposed to pith a frog in one of my college biology courses and there is no way I could (or would) have done it. Wouldn't do it now, either, and I hope today's students are doing virtual dissections of computer-generated frogs.



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So how far down the road are your operas? MN Opera did Turn of the Screw some years ago in a very interesting production. The Met's Peter Grimes last year was so good that I was sorry I hadn't bought a ticket to an HD screening. "Modern," as you suggest, is relative when talking about pieces that are 60 or more years old; it's about time they're becoming regular parts of the repertoire.

We get a brand-new opera here next month--Pinocchio, by someone named Dove. It's coming from England and the quoted reviews from the English press are very good, so we'll see how it goes.

I'm glad to hear that the hellhounds appear to be stabilizing--good for them, keep it up boys!



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Re: Playing the piano again [message #11712 is a reply to message #11693 ] Wed, 18 February 2009 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin wrote:

we have the hellhounds fixed, right? The occasional retrograde motion^
^ Er . . . sic



"Or sick"!

Groan....


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Susan from Athens wrote on Tue, 17 February 2009 18:21

right now in Athens we're having the Bodies exhibition - those bodies specially preserved and displayed in interesting ways. A bunch of people I know and whose opinion I respect found it enlightening, illuminating and fascinating, but I am just not sure. My natural curiosity is fighting my natural squeamishness to a draw. Any opinions anyone.



I went to see that particular exhibit twice, once in New York and once in Atlanta, then saw the original exhibit from Germany called BodyWorks when it was in Dallas. I felt that both those exhibits were very well done, very enlightening and very profound - I was pretty deeply moved by the New York one, which is the first time I had seen it. I didn't feel it was gory, and my squeamishness wasn't engaged at all. My dad went tot eh Dallas exhibit with me, and he wasn't grossed out either, which he had been really worried about.

There has been a lot of controversy around exhibits of this type. I first heard about them at all because of two articles in Discover magazine, about 1 1/2 years apart. The articles dealt with 1) the original German exhibit, which was designed by the man who invented the preservation technique (plastination, in itself a very intriguing technique...) and then 2) with questions about how the cadavers in the Bodies exhibit were obtained. The Bodies exhibit company cleared their name, but there have been subsequent cadavers exhibit companies who have not been as scrupulous, and there's been concern in some quarters that the cadavers were obtained by illegal or immoral means. There was an exhibit of this type which came to KC last year, and it in particular was dogged by this type of controversy - and, investigation after the exhibit had already left turned up the disturbing news that the legal channels for obtaining cadavers had NOT been used by the company in question (Bodies Revealed). So, in my mind, there's lots of "on the one hand...on the other hand" about all of it.

On the one hand, I found the exhibits I saw to be very well done, thought-provoking and extremely interesting from a scientific point of view. On the other hand, the German exhibit in particular does have an slightly "funhouse" kind of quality to it. The cadaver displays are done in a more light-hearted and playful fashion that the Bodies: The Exhibition displays, and some people no doubt find this to be troubling. It didn't bother me so much, because I think the human body is fascinating and funny all at the same time.

Detractors of this kind of exhibit feel that displays of human cadavers for anything other than serious medical research are degrading and de-humanizing. I don't agree - frankly, once we're dead, who needs the shall? Might as well use it to teach something, and not just to med students! The issue of how the cadavers is obtained is even more problematic for the exhibit detractors, and I admit for me as well. If someone wants their body to be used for these purposes after death, that's great - but, if they don't give their permission, if the families of the deceased don't have any say in the matter, I can see where people would be disturbed. In many cases, people who are in Chinese prisons are the donors, and there has been question as to not only pre-death-permissions but to how the individual in question met their end - naturally or via criminal execution? Nobody really likes to think about any of this stuff!

But, nobody really likes to think about death and what-ever-comes-after either. Which is one of the valuable things about the exhibit, in my opinion - it confronts the frailty and the beauty of the human body all at once. We are "fearfully and wonderfully made" but we are all going to die someday, and all that will remain is this earthly body...

The other issue I and a friend had with Bodies: The Exhibition in particular is that women's cadavers were not utilized until the display on adipose tissue (fat!), and then in the reproductive system room. The German exhibit was much more egalitarian. This could be simple supply issues (how many women in Chinese prisons?), but it also alludes to some prejudice about women's athleticism (not that I am one to talk...my cadaver would be useful for demonstrating adipose tissue too!)

So, there's my two cents...er, perhaps that's $1.50!! Anyway, Susan, if you do attend (and I actually recommend it), I'd be curious what you think of it!

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Jeanne Marie
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The worst case of tendonitis I ever had I got from playing the piano. I hate to say it, but my teacher told me that finger exercises daily are important for preventing hand injuries. I decided eventually that knitting was more important than finger exercises.
Someone directed me to google yoga for hands which brought me to a series of exercises that I found very helpful when I had been involved in holiday knitting and had very stiff sore hands. I use the exercises regularly to make sure that I get to do the things I want, Gardening, knitting, writing. While begging off of things I don't particularly want to do.
I am OK with anatomical drawings, and did fine with most of my anatomy class excepting dissecting cats. I begged off that one and I also refuse to kill an animal for supposed scientific purposes.
How do you get to be an ambulance driver without going through the EMT training? I don't know how it is in UK, but here you can't go on the fire trucks or the ambulances unless you have the training.


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I forgot to say: type knitted digestive system into google. Not only is it stunning and anatomicly correct, it has the directions so that you can make one for your very own self.


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dances-with-needles wrote on Wed, 18 February 2009 17:22

I forgot to say: type knitted digestive system into google. Not only is it stunning and anatomicly correct, it has the directions so that you can make one for your very own self.

Now that's a great knitting project! How much red wool do I need? Very Happy

I hope the hellhounds continue to prosper, preferably without sick (groan!! Mrs Redboots!)


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A year ago last autumn--yes. And no, it was the other hand. Which I can only recently start to unscrew bottle tops with again.
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I live in fear of the hellhounds beginning to howl when I play the piano. Especially Darkness, who is pretty chatty anyway. He'll come over to you and start a conversation. Ooooo? he'll say.
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Sometimes the impression is that the reference librarian is suffering a Pavolovian response to Person Wanting Information and is dying to be helpful. But if you're--say--a fantasy writer following her nose through a possible story idea even polite questions can be hard to negotiate. The cyanide query sounds pretty normal to me. :)

(And don't get me started on marijuana. It is a PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE pain killer and a lot less dangerous than some of the laboratory pharmaceuticals.)
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Oh, frog pithing! Yes, me too! The only way I could take biology (this was in the days of distribution requirements so I had to take *A* science) was to take pre med, and there was a LOT of animal torture in it which I refused to do.

It's had slightly mixed reviews--Pinocchio. My impression is that it's a hell of a show but it may not be music for the ages. (I missed it of course.) If you see it, please report! Agreed about 'modern' opera. This Jenufa got fantastic reviews first time around and the same leads are in it--and it's *time* for me and Janacek. :)

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This was a volunteer ambulance situation. The people in the back had to have the proper EMT training just like paid professionals. The driver only needed basic first aid training and a clean driving record.
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It didn't bother me so much, because I think the human body is fascinating and funny all at the same time.

Oh my, yes. Not to mention all of the weird and wacky things we do with our bodies. Viewed objectively, both sex and sneezing are pretty darn hilarious.


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With regard to reference librarians ...

There was what in my day in library school was called the "reference interview", which involved finding out enough about how the person wanted to use the information to give them the right "answer".

For example, a woman with a white cane came into the library and seemed at a loss. So I went and asked her if I could help her find something. She said "yes, a carpenter."
I was NOT being nosy when I asked what she wanted the carpenter to do ... I was trying to find out if she wanted someone to do rough framing, finish work, etc. Her answer was that she wanted someone who could saw an inch off her cane, which was new, and too long. I told her that I had a saw down in the janitor's closet and that I would be happy to do it, if she would let me. So the answer to the question wasn't really the name of a carpenter ... because the real need wasn't for a carpenter, but for someone with a saw.



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Re: Bodies and Body Worlds--this has been a pretty big kerfuffle in the museum world (of which some of you may recall I'm a part! Smile ) Exhibition of human remains is a very thorny issue on a number of levels, many of which you've touched on here, Jeanne Marie. Especially in the US, there have been a lot of discussions in the last decade or two regarding repatriating native remains from museum collections, and whether it's ever appropriate to display any human remains outside a purely medical context (IE the Mutter in Philadelphia.) It's arguable that the educational content of these exhibits is minimal--does one really "learn" anything from seeing a plastinated body that you couldn't learn from looking at an anatomy textbook? In which case, is it pure voyeurism (and is that a bad thing?) I don't really have a strong opinion on this one way or the other, especially as I've not seen either of the exhibits and don't have firsthand knowledge of how the stuff is contextualized. It was a popular paper/debate topic back when I was in museum school. Smile But the primary controversy, at least as far as museums deciding to take this exhibit or not, did have to do with the issues of consent raised by the Bodies (Chinese) exhibition. I would have been interested to see Body Worlds, but don't want the Bodies folks to have a dime of my money...


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skating librarian wrote on Thu, 19 February 2009 02:54

With regard to reference librarians ...

There was what in my day in library school was called the "reference interview", which involved finding out enough about how the person wanted to use the information to give them the right "answer".

For example, a woman with a white cane came into the library and seemed at a loss. So I went and asked her if I could help her find something. She said "yes, a carpenter."
I was NOT being nosy when I asked what she wanted the carpenter to do ... I was trying to find out if she wanted someone to do rough framing, finish work, etc. Her answer was that she wanted someone who could saw an inch off her cane, which was new, and too long. I told her that I had a saw down in the janitor's closet and that I would be happy to do it, if she would let me. So the answer to the question wasn't really the name of a carpenter ... because the real need wasn't for a carpenter, but for someone with a saw.



Can't help being a bit curious here - I hope you don't mind Smile - was the cane of wood? I think white canes here are plastic; at least I had/have (I suppose it's somewhere since I don't really throw stuff away) a foldable white cane and it was of hard plastic.


Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean, like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.
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Robin wrote on Wed, 18 February 2009 19:03


It's had slightly mixed reviews--Pinocchio. My impression is that it's a hell of a show but it may not be music for the ages. (I missed it of course.) If you see it, please report! Agreed about 'modern' opera. This Jenufa got fantastic reviews first time around and the same leads are in it--and it's *time* for me and Janacek. Smile


The "hell of a show" part certainly carried over in the quotes I've seen. I will see it next month and will report. I know nothing about this composer so have no preconceptions. MN Opera has committed to doing a "new" work every season for the next 7 years, which is pretty out-there programming for a company that does only five productions each season. Hopefully these plans will not be scuttled by the current economic situation.




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The white cane in question was wooden ... we are talking many, many years ago ... in the 70's. I know that they make plastic ones today ... but I seem to remember that the canes the blind students I worked with in the sixties were always wooden.

Hmmmm. You've given me something to think about.


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My cane was from - probably the end of - the 80s. ("They" thought I ought to have one...) I suppose plastic is lighter, since it's not meant to be leant on but rather for feeling one's way before one...

I couldn't help being curious - and wondering and thinking too. Thinking is good. Smile


Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean, like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.
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Robin wrote on Wed, 18 February 2009 19:56

I live in fear of the hellhounds beginning to howl when I play the piano. Especially Darkness, who is pretty chatty anyway. He'll come over to you and start a conversation. Ooooo? he'll say.


Since I don't play the piano, I keep threatening to try to teach Gryphon to howl on command, as he is also very talkative. Mostly as a greeting (AROOOROOO). Particularly when someone casually met is talking to us but Not Patting the Dog (which, so far as he's concerned, is the 8th deadly sin). He's got about a 50-50 success rate talking people into it.
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shalea wrote on Fri, 20 February 2009 12:15


Since I don't play the piano, I keep threatening to try to teach Gryphon to howl on command, as he is also very talkative. Mostly as a greeting (AROOOROOO). Particularly when someone casually met is talking to us but Not Patting the Dog (which, so far as he's concerned, is the 8th deadly sin). He's got about a 50-50 success rate talking people into it.


Lola does that too! She's very good at judging dog people--if we pass someone who's not interested in dogs, she leaves them alone, but if she spots a prime target she turns on the charm with flattened ears and wriggletail...and then lets loose a sound that has never before emanated from a canine throat. It's like a combination trill-howl and I have often trolled YouTube in vain looking (listening) for anything close.
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LOL! Spiritual brothers! Chaos just THROWS himself at people. Darkness does a little throwing too, but he also wants to argue about it. :)
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Maren wrote on Fri, 20 February 2009 11:53


Lola does that too! She's very good at judging dog people--if we pass someone who's not interested in dogs, she leaves them alone, but if she spots a prime target she turns on the charm with flattened ears and wriggletail...and then lets loose a sound that has never before emanated from a canine throat. It's like a combination trill-howl and I have often trolled YouTube in vain looking (listening) for anything close.


I've had dogs who liked to torment people who weren't interested in them by really wanting to be their friend, up close and personal and right now. Our first dog amused herself by making people who were nervous around her more nervous; she was so selective about this behavior that it was obviously deliberate. But that was a long time ago when non-dog folks actually came to our house.



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Diane in MN wrote on Sat, 21 February 2009 04:05

I've had dogs who liked to torment people who weren't interested in them by really wanting to be their friend, up close and personal and right now. Our first dog amused herself by making people who were nervous around her more nervous; she was so selective about this behavior that it was obviously deliberate.

IMO dogs definitely have a sense of humour - some more warped than others Very Happy


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