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Rose Contemplation in January [message #10619] Tue, 27 January 2009 19:31 Go to next message
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Roses and more roses can be found here.


"The time is always right to do what's right."--MLK Jr.
Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10620 is a reply to message #10619 ] Tue, 27 January 2009 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And speaking of Peter, he had this to say about my difficult Damarian translation decisions yesterday:   ‘In the Damarian antipodes (maybe), the locals ride knagafoos, commonly known as foos.  They move at various paces, the foogallop, the foocanter, and, of courser, the footrot.  So you may need it one day.’ 
Bwhaha. Brilliant. Heehee……

Oh, and: " Yaay roses!" Smile
Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10621 is a reply to message #10619 ] Tue, 27 January 2009 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh Robin's way with words is such a delight. Not to mention Peter's.
Foo trot indeed! LOL!
I'm rereading Spindle's End and was charmed by the phrase "...a wriggle of wedge-shaped stairs led down..." Having been blessed by a too brief time in England some years ago, that brings a vivid picture to my mind. It is a precise and perfect description. Thank you, Robin. I do hope you are feeling nearly a cheery as your blog entry today/tonight.
Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10622 is a reply to message #10621 ] Tue, 27 January 2009 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GraceNotes wrote on Tue, 27 January 2009 19:41

Oh Robin's way with words is such a delight. Not to mention Peter's.
Foo trot indeed! LOL!

Agreed. I just didn't express my admiration and such in quite as coherent a manner... but that is what my "bwahaha. brilliant" was meant to convey. Good thing we have you around.

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I do hope you are feeling nearly a cheery as your blog entry today/tonight.

Oh, yes, me too!

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Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10626 is a reply to message #10619 ] Tue, 27 January 2009 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yay rant!

I got nothin' else. (Mostly no brain.)

Fire bad. Tree Rose pretty.

[Updated on: Tue, 27 January 2009 20:05]


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Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10631 is a reply to message #10619 ] Tue, 27 January 2009 21:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As Indianapolis is rapidly being buried under snow at the moment, reading a post nearly entirely about roses did my heart good (though I wouldn't know a Tipsy Imperial Concubine from a Drunken Street Harlot.)


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Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10642 is a reply to message #10631 ] Tue, 27 January 2009 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Black Bear wrote on Tue, 27 January 2009 21:25

As Indianapolis is rapidly being buried under snow at the moment, reading a post nearly entirely about roses did my heart good (though I wouldn't know a Tipsy Imperial Concubine from a Drunken Street Harlot.)


Oh I'm sure you would. Tipsy Imperial Concubine smells better. Wink


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Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10643 is a reply to message #10619 ] Tue, 27 January 2009 22:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Another author with roses - over a hundred but a much larger garden here. She also writes a blog but it's mainly about writing (as opposed to hellhounds and bell-ringing).


Karen
Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10644 is a reply to message #10619 ] Tue, 27 January 2009 23:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The roses sound so fabulous! But then I sigh and remember that my sole survivor bit the dust last summer, between the black spot and cankers and Japanese beetles. I need roses that will bloom deliriously without constant intervention. No chemicals except against poison ivy, that's my rule. (That concession was necessary, as I seem to react if I'm anywhere within ten feet of the stuff.) Do such paragons of roses exist?
Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10645 is a reply to message #10620 ] Tue, 27 January 2009 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And speaking of Peter, he had this to say about my difficult Damarian translation decisions yesterday:   ‘In the Damarian antipodes (maybe), the locals ride knagafoos, commonly known as foos.  They move at various paces, the foogallop, the foocanter, and, of courser, the footrot.  So you may need it one day.’ 
Beware, for it is well known that Foo Tropes provide slippery footing at best, and in such cold weather as we are having now, they are most treacherous -- even as literary devices! Smile

[running, ducking, hiding]


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Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10654 is a reply to message #10631 ] Wed, 28 January 2009 01:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Black Bear wrote on Tue, 27 January 2009 20:25

As Indianapolis is rapidly being buried under snow at the moment, reading a post nearly entirely about roses did my heart good (though I wouldn't know a Tipsy Imperial Concubine from a Drunken Street Harlot.)


This must be the storm that's coated parts of Oklahoma and Arkansas with ice up to three inches thick. Lots of snow is a drag, but not as bad as lots of ice. Good luck with it.



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Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10655 is a reply to message #10644 ] Wed, 28 January 2009 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kathy_S wrote on Tue, 27 January 2009 22:44

The roses sound so fabulous! But then I sigh and remember that my sole survivor bit the dust last summer, between the black spot and cankers and Japanese beetles. I need roses that will bloom deliriously without constant intervention. No chemicals except against poison ivy, that's my rule. (That concession was necessary, as I seem to react if I'm anywhere within ten feet of the stuff.) Do such paragons of roses exist?


Have you looked into the hardy shrub roses? They are pest- and disease-resistant, and did very well for me (and I'm an organic gardener, except for poison ivy and a few other noxious weeds) before being shaded out. The Canadian Explorer series roses are very well spoken of, but I don't know if they'd like a colder climate than yours.



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Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10656 is a reply to message #10619 ] Wed, 28 January 2009 01:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fifty isn’t possible! Fifty isn’t possible! Not in this garden! And this isn’t even counting the Rose Hedge or the four bare-root ones that I did manage to get heeled in before winter happened . . . or, of course, the ten I ordered the other day

Well, as we know by now, you are just a teeny bit of an extremist about your enthusiasms . . .



"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10660 is a reply to message #10619 ] Wed, 28 January 2009 04:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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‘In the Damarian antipodes (maybe), the locals ride knagafoos, commonly known as foos. They move at various paces, the foogallop, the foocanter, and, of courser, the footrot. So you may need it one day.’

I love it. Peter is brilliant!
Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10661 is a reply to message #10619 ] Wed, 28 January 2009 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Low to mid Fahrenheit 40s and crucially no wind.
Hey, change that F to a C and you have our weather..... Neutral Isn't Mother Nature amazing?! Oh yeah ... sooooo looking forward to autumn!!

Sunlight would be nice but we can’t have everything.
I tried to send some north. Obviously it got stuck somewhere about Dubai. Sorry. Will try again.

For all my rose mania and general plant greed I am a pathetically fair-weather gardener. I get cold really easily.
I don't like weeding. Or gardening in hot weather. Or.... Wink Glad to know I am not alone in my fair-weatherness. Wink

Possibly because there are over forty roses in the way . . . wait a minute . . . no, I’ve just counted again . . . I think it’s nearer fifty.
Yay! Well done!! Very Happy (Although I think you missed that tinsy corner over there which still has some space.... )

Roger Lambelin. I used to grow her.
Oh. Well that explains her little tanty fit with the rabbit-guard I selected for her (and which is now changed.) But she seems happy now. Fresh air and 40C temps .... Neutral

I Sniffed the Air like a hellhound suspecting the presence of rabbit, and said, that’s frost on its way.
Oooo ..... well done on frost detection skills. Very Happy

And one thing leads to another . . .
It usually does.... ::sigh::


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Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10664 is a reply to message #10619 ] Wed, 28 January 2009 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you for the post on roses. It's snowing here, after a nice of freezing rain and I'm missing my roses.

Fifty roses in a small yard gives me hope, by the way. My plan was to have a garden with a few roses but it's rapidly turning into a rose garden with some other plants. I'm only up to 9, not even double digits and three of those are micro-mini cinderella roses so they hardly count as full size.

So I should be able to fit in LOTS more roses, even without annexing my neighbors garden. Smile


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Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10666 is a reply to message #10644 ] Wed, 28 January 2009 09:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kathy_S wrote on Tue, 27 January 2009 23:44

The roses sound so fabulous! But then I sigh and remember that my sole survivor bit the dust last summer, between the black spot and cankers and Japanese beetles. I need roses that will bloom deliriously without constant intervention. No chemicals except against poison ivy, that's my rule. (That concession was necessary, as I seem to react if I'm anywhere within ten feet of the stuff.) Do such paragons of roses exist?


The only rose I know from a hole in the wall is Knockout, and that's because my first task as a zoo gardener was to plant dozens of them along the entry drive of the Indy zoo. It's a tough cookie, that's not a friendly spot (car exhaust, salt from the roads) and they weren't given a lot of attention other than watering and occasional deadheading when we had volunteers to spare. They've grown into a substantial hedge in 5 years, so they must like Indiana weather OK....

I'm with you on poison ivy. Nuke that stuff from orbit.

And yes, Diane, snow beats ice any day and twice on Sunday. Smile


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Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10669 is a reply to message #10619 ] Wed, 28 January 2009 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin quotes Peter as saying:

‘In the Damarian antipodes (maybe), the locals ride knagafoos, commonly known as foos. They move at various paces, the foogallop, the foocanter, and, of courser, the footrot. So you may need it one day.’


That is utterly brilliant. Peter at his best. But, alas, we know that in Damar they ride the most utterly gorgeous horses that ever were.....


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Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10672 is a reply to message #10666 ] Wed, 28 January 2009 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Black Bear wrote on Wed, 28 January 2009 09:38

The only rose I know from a hole in the wall is Knockout, and that's because my first task as a zoo gardener was to plant dozens of them along the entry drive of the Indy zoo. It's a tough cookie, that's not a friendly spot (car exhaust, salt from the roads) and they weren't given a lot of attention other than watering and occasional deadheading when we had volunteers to spare. They've grown into a substantial hedge in 5 years, so they must like Indiana weather OK....


Oooo, those were your doing? They're very pretty!

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I'm with you on poison ivy. Nuke that stuff from orbit.


I did try non-chemical means to remove a patch of poison ivy back when I wasn't allergic, but as that ended Very Badly, my husband's one outdoor task has become killing the nasty stuff and it's the one thing for which we actually use poison.
Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10686 is a reply to message #10619 ] Wed, 28 January 2009 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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‘In the Damarian antipodes (maybe), the locals ride knagafoos, commonly known as foos. They move at various paces, the foogallop, the foocanter, and, of courser, the footrot. So you may need it one day.’

So would foo-dies be those who ride around ever vigilant about what others eat, possibly battling the fad-ies and the fatt-ies? And would those who are angry be foo-rious; those that are particularly recalcitrant beasts en-foo-riating; and those given to practical jokes known to be foo-ling around?

***ducks and flees***


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There, there, Susan. :pats Susan soothingly: That translation will soon be done... Smile


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Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10688 is a reply to message #10687 ] Wed, 28 January 2009 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AJLR wrote on Thu, 29 January 2009 00:43

There, there, Susan. :pats Susan soothingly: That translation will soon be done... Smile

***sobs*** how did you know? Are the ragged edges showing? ***sobs some more***


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Susan from Athens wrote on Wed, 28 January 2009 17:55

AJLR wrote on Thu, 29 January 2009 00:43

There, there, Susan. :pats Susan soothingly: That translation will soon be done... Smile

***sobs*** how did you know? Are the ragged edges showing? ***sobs some more***


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Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10690 is a reply to message #10689 ] Wed, 28 January 2009 18:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This seems an appropriate moment for a 'Mwahahaha! Smile


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Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10691 is a reply to message #10619 ] Wed, 28 January 2009 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin hath written ---
I get cold really easily.** Except, of course, when I get too hot. I frequently don’t like July either.----

Me, too! When I moved to Michigan (from Long Island, via Scranton, PA, Washington, DC, and Moscow, Russia), I was mentally prepared for cold winters. One can always put on more clothes and get closer to the fire place, after all. I was not prepared for rather hot, excruciatingly humid summers. One can only strip down so far, you know?

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AJLR wrote on Thu, 29 January 2009 01:33

This seems an appropriate moment for a 'Mwahahaha! Smile



***shivers at secret powers of moderator*** Awed and cowed in one, but still exhausted and brain numb. Would love to be sniffing gardenias right now myself, although my hibiscus is flowering outdoors, where it is a full-sized shrub and snapdragons are dancing in the wind.


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Julia, I found your "bwahaha" quite expressive of my own reaction. Thank you for your kind words.
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kolokolchiki wrote on Wed, 28 January 2009 18:38]
One can only strip down so far, you know?

My opinion exactly! I've said the same many a time.

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YES. Some 'species' roses, and rugosas, for example. FIND A LOCAL NURSERY AND ASK ADVICE.
Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10706 is a reply to message #10691 ] Wed, 28 January 2009 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Right there with you! I love gardening in the spring - and then it gets hot and I start hiding inside my comfy air-conditioned house (with my back turned to the garden where the few plants that are still alive are looking longingly into my windows.)


Karen
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Thank you, everyone, for all the rose advice. A fine thing to contemplate with all that snow outside. Smile
Re: Rose Contemplation in January [message #10716 is a reply to message #10644 ] Thu, 29 January 2009 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kathy_S wrote on Tue, 27 January 2009 23:44

I need roses that will bloom deliriously without constant intervention.


Look for Moore's Striped Rugosa, you'll probably need to special order it though. The rugosa heritage laughs at black spot, does fine in poor soil and shrugs off the Japanese beetles. (The beetles seem to prefer my oakleaf hydrangea.) Unlike most rugosas it stays reasonably sized and puts out blooms all year.

Plus, it's striped. Every petal is it's own masterpiece.


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There are several rugosas that do not get huge. But I repeat ASK A LOCAL NURSERY for advice.
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There are several rugosas that do not get huge. But I repeat ASK A LOCAL NURSERY for advice.

I'm flashing back to my time working at a local garden centre. It was always a couple, starry-eyed with buying their first house and planting plants, who had clearly gone straight to the rose section and picked the most vigorous-looking rose there (also, two pyramid cedars and a spirea). Naturally, said rose was a rugosa, so I always asked them, guardedly, "Oh, did anyone help you in the yard today?" If they said yes, I left it at that, and if they said no, I added, "rugosas are lovely, aren't they? So perfect as a hedging plant, they get so big and thorny..."

I knew they were planning a rose for that little 4-foot oval bed smack dab in the middle of their front yard - they needed to be warned it would take over their entire lawn!
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http://northcreekfarm.org/

This is a great source for Rugosa roses if you live in the Northeast U.S. or the Maritimes. Suzanne literally wrote the book on rugosas, and she had short ones and gives descriptions which include here experience growing them in Phippsburg, Maine.

Phippsburg is just a few miles up the coast from Brunswick (one of Robin's old haunts) and North Creek Farm makes a great outing for gardeners. It's not huge, but cozy, with a dog, cat, and chickens and a garden an ordinary person could aspire to. Of course she does mail order too, and has plenty of short rugosas.
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