| Perspective [message #9537] |
Tue, 06 January 2009 18:28  |
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Perspective
Smooshes!
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| Re: Perspective [message #9540 is a reply to message #9537 ] |
Tue, 06 January 2009 18:44  |
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Oh, what wonderful timing! I've never heard of toe warmers, either, but they sound perfect for you! I hope tomorrow we'll have a report of your toasty feet.
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two pairs of socks; thermal long-johns and undershirt; cashmere jumper; fleece; padded winter coat with hood; [two pairs] gloves; wool scarf; woolly hat.
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*shiver*
Though in my quest to learn everything about spinning and fiber and all that, I've discovered a lot of fibers supposedly warmer than wool. Fortunately, here, I don't need to test it out. Doubly fortunate, since they get pretty expensive. I can't imagine getting the money to swaddle myself in quiviut. (Musk ox down!) I wonder if they have musk oxen in Yakutsk. That would be awfully convenient. Assuming they could feel their hands well enough to spin it.
I think I'm going to hug the radiator. Be right back.
Smooshes!
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| Re: Perspective [message #9546 is a reply to message #9544 ] |
Tue, 06 January 2009 18:56 |
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| Robin wrote on Tue, 06 January 2009 18:52 |
Rats. I want a musk ox cardie and I want it NOW. :)
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Maybe when we're both very rich and you promise to hang out with me at cons. ;)
(I want one, too. I've read it's like petting air. Cashmere smashmere. Quiviut is the new everything.)
Smooshes!
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| Re: Perspective [message #9548 is a reply to message #9537 ] |
Tue, 06 January 2009 19:17 |
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Eeekk! When push comes to shove I guess I will take 35C over the -35C any day...... *g* Although extremes tend to get rather tiring which ever direction they go.
Re toe warmers: Well timed! hehe
I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel ~ Blackadder
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| Re: Perspective [message #9549 is a reply to message #9547 ] |
Tue, 06 January 2009 19:19 |
b_twin_1
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| Ithilien wrote on Tue, 06 January 2009 18:56 |
| jmeadows wrote on Tue, 06 January 2009 18:44 |
I can't imagine getting the money to swaddle myself in quiviut. (Musk ox down!) I wonder if they have musk oxen in Yakutsk.
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Yes, I remember seeing it in Whitehorse and Fairbanks. It is unbelivably soft. And incredibly expensive. I'd really like to know how people can afford to walk around in thousand dollar sweaters...
Baby musk oxen are also very cute.
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::imagines Jodi sweating blood over a knitting a quiviut cardigan.....:: No pressure!!
I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel ~ Blackadder
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| Re: Perspective [message #9553 is a reply to message #9552 ] |
Tue, 06 January 2009 19:47 |
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| southdowner wrote on Tue, 06 January 2009 19:35 |
Toe warmers just when you need them. How beautifully timed :) This Yakutsk article made me think of those naked cats and dogs and shiver... maybe they need quiviut body warmers too. Any patterns Jodi?
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I am the master of searching for patterns! Bow to me.
Clicky #1
Clicky #2
Not quiviut, but... ;)
Smooshes!
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| Re: Perspective [message #9554 is a reply to message #9537 ] |
Tue, 06 January 2009 19:52 |
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Still snowing here. And the temps in single digits. I can hear pipes breaking all over town.
Toe warmers! Wonderful! I used to wear those back a million years ago when I used to ski. My hands would stay warm with a silk liner glove, but my feet always suffered. The toe warmers worked great. Here's hoping they spare you the painful toes!
"And by the way you look fantastic in your boots of Chinese plastic."
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| Re: Perspective [message #9560 is a reply to message #9537 ] |
Tue, 06 January 2009 21:02 |
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*snork*
Bonnie Holmes the faster ahead I go, the more behind I get
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| Re: Perspective [message #9569 is a reply to message #9537 ] |
Wed, 07 January 2009 02:39 |
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 Diane in MN
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I've never heard of toe warmers--how interesting, and we'll get to hear how they work, too. I bought a neoprene face mask from the well-provided folks at Bean's a couple of years after we moved here and it did a pretty good job, although of late years I've switched to a silk balaclava. (Of late years, it hasn't been as cold, and since my husband retired, I have not been the person running the snowblower.)
Finding the right shoes to hike any distance in really cold weather is a problem. Comfortable warm dry boots are not necessarily designed for serious walking. Some manufacturer ought to exploit this neglected market.
Ecco did a line of hiking boots that rescued me from cracking canvas All Stars for most of a decade, but of course they stopped making them.
This seems to be a law of nature, with a corollary: if the manufacturer continues to make them, the local distributor will drop them. It's not fair.
"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
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| Re: Perspective [message #9572 is a reply to message #9537 ] |
Wed, 07 January 2009 03:57 |
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Well its 9.50pm here and its 27 deg C outside (81F apparently) and its been up to 30 deg today. And its not just hot sunshine, but its a hot Norwester wind as well, so the *air* is hot. Im almost looking forward to going back to work to be in the cool.
And tomorrow is forecast for a high of 31 C (88F)!!!
And I dont have aircon, so all the windows are open for breeze, curtains are shut to keep sun out, I spent a lot of today lying on my bed, cos my room is the coolest one in the house, and eventually I gave up and had a cool shower (and felt LOTS better)
I did get a chance to do some necessary gardening - I had to move some tomato plants and do some weeding before my plumber comes to put in my new downspout, and one of the heavy branches on my best bearing tomato plant broke while I was moving the pot  So I just lost about 20 tomatoes off that one branch alone.
Note to self - stake and tie up tomatoes more often!
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| Re: Perspective [message #9573 is a reply to message #9537 ] |
Wed, 07 January 2009 05:16 |
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Susan from Athens
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Well I am not a dog or a cat or even a bear, although there might be some who think me an evil sorceress  I hide too well in hazy forests of the interwebs to be recognised.
My magic worked however, and today we have a sunny day to feast our eyes on. The cold, which is nothing like as severe as you seem to be having in the rest of the Northern hemisphere that subscribes to this forum (Attica has an almost ideal climate - not that you would believe it in the middle of a summer heat wave), is something I can live with - the sun is not something I can live without.
If you liked Ecco hiking boots, Robin, they also do a very nice line in sailing sneakers. These have a couple of great advantages: they don't slip slide all over, because they are designed for wet surfaces and they dry in the blink of an eye. They have been my foul weather shoes for several years now.
I have to say, however, like b_twin_1, I can deal with +35 C but the idea of -35 C scares me. We all tend to prefer the devil we know.
“I have always imagined heaven to be a kind of library.” –Jorge Luis Borges
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| Re: Perspective [message #9575 is a reply to message #9573 ] |
Wed, 07 January 2009 06:54 |
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Cold weather can be a pain when it's not wanted.
One Alaskan winter we had a cold snap for three weeks. -50, so cold that the gas froze and we had to use the microwave to cook. There is one advantage to this temperature - I ate at least a pound of chocolate a day plus four meals and still lost weight. Of course I was out working in it for 8 to 10 hours so that made a difference too.
I became the expert on layers that winter. I won't bore you with the list of what I wore. But if anyone out there suffers from the cold, here are a few tips.
A mid to heavy weight polar fleece tight fitting stretch tank top does wonders to keep you warm. With all those knitters I guess you could knit one without a problem.
I also wore a motorcycle kidney protector belt to help keep my lower back warm. These two items made a world of difference for me. I still use them now so I won't have to wear so many layers on top.
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| Re: Perspective [message #9578 is a reply to message #9537 ] |
Wed, 07 January 2009 07:58 |
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you are a very bad girl,black bear.[giggles]
Bonnie Holmes the faster ahead I go, the more behind I get
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| Re: Perspective [message #9587 is a reply to message #9537 ] |
Wed, 07 January 2009 14:05 |
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Ooh! There's a video of that story, the bear playing with the dogs. I'll see if I can find it. Though now that I think about it, I think I heard about it here.
"And by the way you look fantastic in your boots of Chinese plastic."
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| Re: Perspective [message #9588 is a reply to message #9537 ] |
Wed, 07 January 2009 14:09 |
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Here is one version.
"And by the way you look fantastic in your boots of Chinese plastic."
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| Re: Perspective [message #9598 is a reply to message #9537 ] |
Wed, 07 January 2009 16:08 |
judith
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And as Jenny, who is too frelling chirpy by half, said, oh, the frost’s better than the mud.
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Jenny is RIGHT! With horses and big dogs, mud is the worst thing ever! I love it when horses in their winter coats have been rolling in the snow and come up all fluffy and clean like teddy bears.
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Two pairs of black neoprene toe warmers. Little black vaguely crescent-shaped or squashed-half-circle shaped things, only as long as (approximately) half a human foot. No, I had no idea any such object existed.
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What a great idea! I'll have to look for some. Like Diane, I too bought a neoprene face mask after taking a rifle class in 12 degrees Fahrenheit with high winds after having come dressed for a much warmer climate and seeing one of the instructors in one. And like Rebecca, I've got a kidney warmer belt, but mine is fleece and has pockets for those hand warmer thingies. A shooting buddy told me that keeping one's kidneys warm goes a long way toward keeping the body warm. Shooting sporting clays in the winter is a major challenge, especially since I can't wear coats with sleeves since shooting a long gun with heavy sleeves rips my rotator cuff. (That's how I ripped it to begin with; wearing a coat while shooting.)
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Or Captain Oates, instead of having been some time, coming back in again and saying, actually, chaps, the yellow brick road starts just outside the tent here, I think we might make it after all.
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Ah -- someone else familiar with the Scott story. Ever seen Ted Tally's play "Terra Nova"? I've seen it in the theater twice. They hand out coats to the audience because they have to keep the theater so cold for the performers wearing parkas. It got me so interested in the story that I ended up buying a small library on Scott and went to Antarctica for myself (although I haven't yet been to the side of the continent where Scott landed; I still want to do that). I was fortunate enough on my trip to have along as the naturalist the nephew of Wilson, the physician who accompanied Scott on his expeditions.
Some of the fascinating things I learned about cold from my Scott library are:
Cold can splinter the teeth; many of the men on Scott's expedition lost theirs;
At very low temperatures snow doesn't melt under sled runners; pulling a sled on such snow is as hard as pulling it on sand.
What a great story!
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| Re: Perspective [message #9606 is a reply to message #9537 ] |
Wed, 07 January 2009 17:24 |
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Up here in Calgary (Canada), we've just come out of a period of -30C temperatures. I can't say they're comfortable, but at least they don't last long. Oh, and Calgary has a "dry" cold, for what it's worth, as does Siberia, I bet! That makes those cold temperatures a little more bearable. I found a link to that article Robin quoted in her blog; since no one else has posted it, I thought I'd add it here. It's an interesting article.
http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/europe/yakutsk-journey-t o-the-coldest-city-on-earth-771503.html
Cheers,
Amanda
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| Re: Perspective [message #9612 is a reply to message #9610 ] |
Wed, 07 January 2009 19:19 |
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| hedgehog wrote on Wed, 07 January 2009 18:58 |
I gratefully salute a fellow Shooter 
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Cool!! What kind of shooting do you do? I mostly do sporting clays, although I do the tactical stuff too in handgun, rifle, and shotgun when I can get out west for it and when the occasional classes present themselves in my area.
| hedgehog wrote on Wed, 07 January 2009 18:58 |
I bought one of these suits a couple of months ago for cold-weather motorcycling -- including range trips -- and have been very pleased. If you haven't tried such a thing, you might find it light-weight enough for your winter shooting -- it's much lighter than any of my winter coats -- and it's quite comfortable at 10 degrees Fahrenheit with 30 mph of wind (when supplemented with a heated helmet or a face mask). The accompanying gloves are too flimsy for this world, but the suit itself is a joy -- in my opinion. Padded knees, too, if you're doing Tactical Rifle
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Thank you! I'll look into it. A number of the guys I shoot with have recommended those one-piece type things. I like light.
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| Re: Perspective [message #9625 is a reply to message #9612 ] |
Wed, 07 January 2009 23:55 |
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| judith wrote on Wed, 07 January 2009 19:19 |
Cool!! What kind of shooting do you do? I mostly do sporting clays, although I do the tactical stuff too in handgun, rifle, and shotgun when I can get out west for it and when the occasional classes present themselves in my area.
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Last few years, I've been mostly doing tactical handgun, and far less range time than I wanted, because of lack of range access. But I've solved that one, I think. (I also live within easy reach of SigArms Academy so availability of classes is not a problem, when/if I have lots of extra money!) I'm hoping to spend a lot more time at the range this coming spring and summer ... desperately need the practice ... would love to do IDPA someday, but can't even afford to think about it for this year.
... comparative Safety on Shipboard / is enjoyed by the Hedgehog alone ...
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