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Re: Tired [message #9175 is a reply to message #9172 ] Tue, 30 December 2008 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aw, man. I'm thinking warm fuzzy thoughts that you'll both pull through your respective influenzas. With that full-body flu I'm amazed you can even think about your plants, much less blog about them. My cognitive skills always dip alarmingly when ill, so I don't even get the pleasure of reading a good book.

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Re: Tired [message #9178 is a reply to message #9172 ] Tue, 30 December 2008 18:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh Robin, yes, things are getting a bit frosted, aren't they. It's bad here, two hundred yards from the sea, so I imagine (*checks weather report for Robin's neck of the woods - eesh!*) that things are a degree or so colder with you. Poor little plantlets, they don't deserve this, do they. Though I've got a Felicia amelloides in a pot that (so far) has gone on blooming through all this - if things really want to survive, they seem to manage somehow. Just keep talking to your pots and I hope Peter manages to get a good daylight bulb or so for you. Sad

I trust you've got some nice warm bedsocks and a really good hot water bottle waiting for you upstairs? Warm wishes coming your way.

[Updated on: Wed, 31 December 2008 11:27]


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Re: Tired [message #9179 is a reply to message #9172 ] Tue, 30 December 2008 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If it helps, Robin, I suspect all the soup-making being discussed in other threads might be occurring at least in part out of subconscious sympathy for your illness. Flu is The Worst.
Re: Tired [message #9181 is a reply to message #9172 ] Tue, 30 December 2008 18:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I remember fifteen or so years ago when I wanted to set up a tiny greenhouse in one of the outbuildings in the old house it was like nobody had ever thought of such a thing before and trying to find suitable lighting for a non-commercial enterprise was very nearly impossible.†† Since then it’s become a commonplace, I think, but I don’t think it’s a commonplace to have a plant light strung up in your sitting room.
A friend of mine who has the honor to be a Special Agent for an arm of the US Government (he simply says "I work for the federal government", knowing that his inquirers will instantly drop the subject) has frequent occasion to seize prodigious quantities of noncommercial grow-lights -- which later turn up at government auctions at pennies-on-the-dollar. Your local constabulary, even in England, may well know of similar auctions, and of course they may know of local sources -- they probably have same under surveillance :)-- and it might be a good idea to make sure they know, up front, that your purpose in seeking grow-lights is to preserve harmless houseplants from the ravages of global warming. I recognize that the odds are poor, but still, it might be a useful conversation to have. Just a thought, so to speak...

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Re: Tired [message #9182 is a reply to message #9172 ] Tue, 30 December 2008 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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but I don’t think it’s a commonplace to have a plant light strung up in your sitting room.


*puts hand up* Guilty. It's not so bad, really. Unless you are the type who actually wants your house dark when you sleep instead of having a nuclear glow bouncing off walls until it reaches all the way upstairs and pokes long fingers under your bedroom door directly into your eyeballs. And no one sees the bruised toes because in the winter, you are probably wearing socks. Smile

Edited to add, Oh jeez, don't ever discover gardening blogs!. Talk about a commonplace.

[Updated on: Tue, 30 December 2008 19:06]

Re: Tired [message #9183 is a reply to message #9172 ] Tue, 30 December 2008 19:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Urgh. I got nothin', but I hope you start feeling better soon. Glad to hear Peter is doing better...


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Re: Tired [message #9186 is a reply to message #9172 ] Tue, 30 December 2008 20:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin, the hoods of fish tanks have full-spectrum fluorescent tubes in them most of the time -- at least enough to give the plants in the water the right kind of light to grow. You can try to get one of them if the hardware store doesn't have full-spectrum bulbs -- though they certainly should have them!!
Re: Tired [message #9187 is a reply to message #9172 ] Tue, 30 December 2008 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I love Hedgehog's idea. Check out the Gardner's Supply website and you will see how the lights can be made to look classy. Doubtless the Man can whip up a homegrown version.


I have taken those metal shelves with clear plastic covers (patio greenhouses they call them) rigged up grow lights. a heat mat for starting seedlings, and use it indoors. The plastic keeps the heat and moisture conveniently close to the plants. Works a treat for seed starting/ cuttings/ etc. It isn't pretty, but the shelves mean it holds a lot, so it really uses very little floor space, and the grow lights mean that I don't block any of the real sunlight which now and then deigns to come through a window. Come warm weather the whole thing can be taken down and takes up very little space to store.

This flu ... ugh ... now the pressure of my glasses is making my sinuses ache.

Hope you're beginning to mend.
Re: Tired [message #9190 is a reply to message #9172 ] Tue, 30 December 2008 23:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When I was trying to grow seedlings on my back porch a few years back, I could find a full spectrum light bulb without much trouble at all--I'd be surprised if a hardware store of any size over there wouldn't have one. But the idea about the aquarium bulb is also a good one, I've got plant-light tubes in my fishtank and one that's a 60 watt full spectrum bulb in a clamp light over the terrarium. Check the local petshop or aquarium dealer. (Or rather, have someone else check it for you. YOU stay in, drink soup, eat toast, and cuddle with whichever portions of hellhound are NOT actively trying to propel you off the camp bed. Smile )


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Re: Tired [message #9191 is a reply to message #9172 ] Wed, 31 December 2008 01:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One other caveat: full spectrum light will fade book covers, paint, carpets, upholstery and anything else in its path, so cover things you want to preserve.
Re: Tired [message #9194 is a reply to message #9172 ] Wed, 31 December 2008 02:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm glad to hear that Peter is getting better and the plants are hanging in and repaying your efforts by cleaning your air and producing lovely healthy oxygen in your house. Your weather sounds totally wretched. Hovering around the freezing mark is the worst it can do in the non-catastrophic line. Today we had more snow. That's getting old too, but it will buck up the weather people if they get to tell us we have broken a record for snow in December.

Good luck with the grow-lights. Perhaps buying them and setting them up will propitiate the evil weather fairies and you will be able to get those plants back outside and reclaim your sitting room. Smile

In the meantime, stay warm and feel better soon.



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Re: Tired [message #9195 is a reply to message #9191 ] Wed, 31 December 2008 03:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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kalimeg wrote on Tue, 30 December 2008 23:13

One other caveat: full spectrum light will fade book covers, paint, carpets, upholstery and anything else in its path, so cover things you want to preserve.


Can't you get grow lights that don't have the UV spectrum in them? I think you can because I have a SAD light box that has everything but UVs, so I can sit under it and not get sunburned. Not sure if you can get bulbs like that, though.

Sorry you're still sick Robin--the flu is the worst. And the men all seem to get better faster, don't they. At least mine does too. I would LOVE to meet a 5 to 7 day flu. Ha. If I catch it, I'm in for a ride. Must be the added immune stuff from the ME, but it is not fun. Not at all.

You've had a rough several months--hope everything improves soon.


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Re: Tired [message #9224 is a reply to message #9172 ] Wed, 31 December 2008 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Peter, who is recovering from the flu, sort of half-drat him, I mean, it’s a good thing one of us is more or less functional but I ALWAYS get things worse

Yeah, I have one of those husbands, too. He either brings it home from work and gives it to me without getting it himself or else he gets it in a much milder form than I do. I'm sure it's because he was breast-fed and I was bottle fed. Sad

At the risk of having messy and foul objects hurled at my head from 3,000 miles away, I have to say that my new neighborhood is stunningly beautiful in the snow. A few days ago we had a thaw and it went up into the 60s. I was seriously upset; all the snow disappeared. But not to fear; it's back today with a vengeance. The roads are bad, the snow is deep, and the conifers are covered with beautiful blankets of white. Smile
Re: Tired [message #9225 is a reply to message #9172 ] Wed, 31 December 2008 16:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't worry, Judith. My husband and I were both breast-fed, and we have the same situation as you guys. I catch EVERYTHING while my husband breezes by with maybe a runny nose. If that.
There are all sorts of variables that can do it. I've learned to manage my susceptibility to illness with exercise, a multivitamin (carefully chosen), and a neti pot for when I feel a cold coming on or daily during prime cold and flu season. My husband doesn't need to do any of these things. (At least not for immunity reasons)
Ah, well.

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Re: Tired [message #9230 is a reply to message #9191 ] Wed, 31 December 2008 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes. VERY good point. Thank you. I knew this fifteen years ago and I hope I would have recovered the info before I hung this new one in my sitting-room. But at worst it's only going to be cold spells this winter; NEXT winter I'm going to be PREPARED. Or prepared to be prepared anyway.
Re: Tired [message #9231 is a reply to message #9194 ] Wed, 31 December 2008 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes I have my eye on the propitiation option. SURELY we're not just going to have three months of below freezing temperatures. SURELY.
Re: Tired [message #9232 is a reply to message #9224 ] Wed, 31 December 2008 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So? It's appropriate weather for you. It isn't for us. I wouldn't be growing osteospermums or trying to keep a geranium *alive outdoors* if I were still in Maine. Which had breathtakingly beautiful snowscapes.
Re: Tired [message #9233 is a reply to message #9225 ] Wed, 31 December 2008 17:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And my husband and I both *weren't* and we STILL have the same situation.
Re: Tired [message #9274 is a reply to message #9172 ] Thu, 01 January 2009 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Peter...has offered to go round to the ironmongers’ tomorrow and ask them about sunlight-spectrum lights for plants.



I can see the headline in The Sun now.... 'Shock Revelation! Authors under Surveillance for Suspicious Plant-related Activities! Rogue Osteopermums arrested for Unseasonal Flowerings!' Wink At least we are on downward slope to spring and sunshine, even if this dire and dank weather is telling us otherwise. I wish you a cashmere snuggly dressing gown and socks to get you through the worst, Robin.


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Re: Tired [message #9354 is a reply to message #9172 ] Sat, 03 January 2009 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Speaking of the weather - how about this for January in Australia? Admittedly, we were at Mt Baw Baw, but SNOW??!! in JANUARY!!??
Two funny aspects of this - being summer, it's peak stone fruit season, so we were inside gorging on fresh, local peaches, cherries, apriocots, nectarines while it was snowing outside.
And three years ago, the same group of friends spent the New Year week up at the same place in Baw Baw, and it was so hot that the tar in the road in front of the lodge was melting.
Not this time - K's dog was about to get into trouble for eating snow off the leaves....
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Re: Tired [message #9360 is a reply to message #9172 ] Sat, 03 January 2009 05:03 Go to previous message
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I know that wasn't why you posted it - but what a lovely, atmospheric picture! I'm also slightly envious, although we've got a little snow this night.


Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean, like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.
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