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Sun, 20 May 2012 21:42  |
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 Black Bear
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Whinge, Snarl, Cavil
Wait, what's that last one?
"The time is always right to do what's right."--MLK Jr.
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| Re: Whinge Snarl Cavil [message #49906 is a reply to message #49900 ] |
Mon, 21 May 2012 01:01  |
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Diane in MN
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I've never tried to buy Met Live tickets online, because I can get them ahead of time at the local theater's box office, which also offers a minimal senior discount. And the tickets are general admission, so if one arrives early, she has her choice of seats. Based on your experience, this is clearly a desirable option.
And I decided I really can’t face Rigoletto in 1960s Las Vegas. Gods, demons and bell-bottoms. Why are directors allowed to pull idiot feckless crap like this? WHY?^ Stick to Broadway, honeybun. They love you there.
::HEADDESK:: We had a local production some years ago whose director clearly was aiming for MTV. I stuck around after the first act because the singing was really good, but closed my eyes so I didn't have to look at the truly horrible staging.
"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
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| Re: Whinge Snarl Cavil [message #49907 is a reply to message #49900 ] |
Mon, 21 May 2012 03:38 |
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It's hours later and I'm still *facepalming* over the fact you can only buy one at a time.
That is so *weird*. You'd think they'd offer flexible package deals ("choose 3/5/7 etc"). The Aus Ballet does and the system seems to work pretty well.
My sympathies to you. And brickbats to them.
I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel ~ Blackadder
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| Re: Whinge Snarl Cavil [message #49924 is a reply to message #49922 ] |
Mon, 21 May 2012 17:08 |
Aaron
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| Mockorange wrote on Mon, 21 May 2012 12:33 |
But if you don’t tick it, the page wipes itself and tells you you need to choose a credit/debt card.
This sort of thing drives me berserk. It's particularly exasperating here since the thing you haven't ticked appears to be irrelevant. But even where the information is relevant, WHY DOES THE WRETCHED PAGE WIPE ITSELF whenever you've just failed to properly complete a particular field? Why can't it just pop up a message saying that you need to fill in box X, rather than making you re-enter all your data again? I mean seriously, who designed this feature into computers and why? WHY????
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It may be laziness on the part of the programmer but it may also be an artefact of the security system. It is not clear that you want either your local system or the network to be able to reproduce your personal information on demand. Imagine a shared computer in an Internet cafe. You enter some information to be sent to a site on which you want to purchase tickets but there is a problem with the information you entered. It is almost certain that some of information which you entered is something you don't want retained on the shared machine so the page is wiped on the local machine. If the validation was done on the local machine this is the end of the story. If the validation was done on a remote server (I believe that this is the more usual approach) the information may not have been sent in a form which can be used to recreate the data you sent (passwords are usually one way encoded before being sent). In any case if the server sends back the data it is that much more available for copying or interception.
A possible refinement is to classify individual fields as secure or insecure and to retain or resend the insecure fields but this introduces another problem. The need to redisplay the screen is usually the result of a problem. It is hard to know what the problem was but a common kind of data entry failure is to enter correct values in incorrect fields. If a log in fails because the user typed the wrong password it may be acceptable to redisplay the user name. If the log in failed because the user typed both their user name and password into the user name field retaining and redisplaying the information in the user name field is a security risk. If the system can't tell the difference between the two cases the conservative thing to do is to redisplay neither the password nor the user name.
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| Re: Whinge Snarl Cavil [message #49932 is a reply to message #49900 ] |
Mon, 21 May 2012 21:16 |
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First of all, sympathy.
My CFS being what it is, booking tickets in advance is very, very risky, though I am subscribing to Seattle Opera again next year. And that lets me have the same seat every production, which I've not had this last season. It's been confusing, to say the least.
(Aside: went to their production of Madama Butterfly yesterday. Am totally wrecked today, but it was... I don't think it gets any better than that. Transcendent.)
The Met broadcasts happen about five blocks from my apartment, but there aren't really discounts enough for my income level, alas.
Re: Tourists: we get them here on Bainbridge Island. I really wish that, since it's Tourist Season, we could, y'know, hunt them. *wry* Was worse on the Seattle side, which wasn't helped by some major road destruction/construction/rerouting. Aaaarrrrgggghhhh.
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And I decided I really can’t face Rigoletto in 1960s Las Vegas. Gods, demons and bell-bottoms. Why are directors allowed to pull idiot feckless crap like this? WHY?
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Oh dear *ghods* no. Just... No. And I hope it isn't as horrific as Seattle's Tristan was last year. Worst I have ever seen. Ever. Singing was lovely, but I couldn't watch.
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Trippers who stroll up my cul de sac because it’s quaint and part of their Sunday afternoon expedition should have boiling oil or at least hot borscht poured on them from an upper storey windows.
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Oh, yes. What a perfectly lovely idea. *evil grin*
Still will I harvest beauty where it grows... -- Edna St. Vincent Millay
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| Re: Whinge Snarl Cavil [message #49943 is a reply to message #49942 ] |
Tue, 22 May 2012 06:22 |
Katsheare
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| equus_peduus wrote on Tue, 22 May 2012 09:24 |
| glinda wrote on Mon, 21 May 2012 18:16 |
Re: Tourists: we get them here on Bainbridge Island. I really wish that, since it's Tourist Season, we could, y'know, hunt them. *wry*
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But as a sometime tourist... am I supposed to not go anywhere or see any interesting places because tourists in general annoy the locals? I enjoy being a tourist and going to see all the things tourists are supposed to see.
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I was thinking the same thing at first, especially since my family are the cul-de-sac exploring type, but I think (I could be wrong) that there are two types of tourists. There is the TOURIST, who parks wherever he or she wants, leaving garbage strewn over other people's lawns, complaining loudly about the lack of public facilities in what is actually a private area. The sort of person who invades an area, intruding on life there. Then there's the tourist, who is somewhere he or she has never been before and remains respectful of that place and those who dwell therein, who sits at the pub with a half pint of the local brew and studies the OS map. The sort of person who strives to be unobtrusive and, in general, not a pest but a sharer of a really lovely area.
Again, I could be wrong, but my family tries really hard to be the latter type, and are teaching our 20-month-old to be that kind of person, and it seems to be working well. Residents smile at us when we admire their gardens or view, locals tell us which brew is best at the pub. And when we are about on weekends, we keep our voices down when walking past windows. All in hopes that we won't be hunted...
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| Re: Whinge Snarl Cavil [message #49946 is a reply to message #49943 ] |
Tue, 22 May 2012 10:44 |
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| Katsheare wrote on Tue, 22 May 2012 06:22 |
| equus_peduus wrote on Tue, 22 May 2012 09:24 |
| glinda wrote on Mon, 21 May 2012 18:16 |
Re: Tourists: we get them here on Bainbridge Island. I really wish that, since it's Tourist Season, we could, y'know, hunt them. *wry*
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But as a sometime tourist... am I supposed to not go anywhere or see any interesting places because tourists in general annoy the locals? I enjoy being a tourist and going to see all the things tourists are supposed to see.
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I was thinking the same thing at first, especially since my family are the cul-de-sac exploring type, but I think (I could be wrong) that there are two types of tourists. There is the TOURIST, who parks wherever he or she wants, leaving garbage strewn over other people's lawns, complaining loudly about the lack of public facilities in what is actually a private area. The sort of person who invades an area, intruding on life there. Then there's the tourist, who is somewhere he or she has never been before and remains respectful of that place and those who dwell therein, who sits at the pub with a half pint of the local brew and studies the OS map. The sort of person who strives to be unobtrusive and, in general, not a pest but a sharer of a really lovely area.
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Agreed! Equus, if you have not yet had the experience of cringing in shame as a large group of Americans complains loudly (because they think no one around them speaks English) about French food, French language, and French people in general...wait a month or so.  Those are the tourists we mean.
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| Re: Whinge Snarl Cavil [message #49949 is a reply to message #49946 ] |
Tue, 22 May 2012 13:09 |
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| Maren wrote on Tue, 22 May 2012 07:44 |
| Katsheare wrote on Tue, 22 May 2012 06:22 |
| equus_peduus wrote on Tue, 22 May 2012 09:24 |
| glinda wrote on Mon, 21 May 2012 18:16 |
Re: Tourists: we get them here on Bainbridge Island. I really wish that, since it's Tourist Season, we could, y'know, hunt them. *wry*
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But as a sometime tourist... am I supposed to not go anywhere or see any interesting places because tourists in general annoy the locals? I enjoy being a tourist and going to see all the things tourists are supposed to see.
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I was thinking the same thing at first, especially since my family are the cul-de-sac exploring type, but I think (I could be wrong) that there are two types of tourists. There is the TOURIST, who parks wherever he or she wants, leaving garbage strewn over other people's lawns, complaining loudly about the lack of public facilities in what is actually a private area. The sort of person who invades an area, intruding on life there. Then there's the tourist, who is somewhere he or she has never been before and remains respectful of that place and those who dwell therein, who sits at the pub with a half pint of the local brew and studies the OS map. The sort of person who strives to be unobtrusive and, in general, not a pest but a sharer of a really lovely area.
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Agreed! Equus, if you have not yet had the experience of cringing in shame as a large group of Americans complains loudly (because they think no one around them speaks English) about French food, French language, and French people in general...wait a month or so. Those are the tourists we mean.
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Sorry, meant the clueless, entitled-to-everything [all-the-bad-language-adjectives-that-apply] sort of tourists. Am not doing well at the mental and verbal clarity stuff (stupid bloody damned CFS, just because I went to the opera on Sunday, it'll flare for another two or three days yet...).
Still will I harvest beauty where it grows... -- Edna St. Vincent Millay
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| Re: Whinge Snarl Cavil [message #49950 is a reply to message #49949 ] |
Tue, 22 May 2012 17:17 |
Katsheare
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| glinda wrote on Tue, 22 May 2012 18:09 |
| Maren wrote on Tue, 22 May 2012 07:44 |
| Katsheare wrote on Tue, 22 May 2012 06:22 |
| equus_peduus wrote on Tue, 22 May 2012 09:24 |
| glinda wrote on Mon, 21 May 2012 18:16 |
Re: Tourists: we get them here on Bainbridge Island. I really wish that, since it's Tourist Season, we could, y'know, hunt them. *wry*
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But as a sometime tourist... am I supposed to not go anywhere or see any interesting places because tourists in general annoy the locals? I enjoy being a tourist and going to see all the things tourists are supposed to see.
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I was thinking the same thing at first, especially since my family are the cul-de-sac exploring type, but I think (I could be wrong) that there are two types of tourists. There is the TOURIST, who parks wherever he or she wants, leaving garbage strewn over other people's lawns, complaining loudly about the lack of public facilities in what is actually a private area. The sort of person who invades an area, intruding on life there. Then there's the tourist, who is somewhere he or she has never been before and remains respectful of that place and those who dwell therein, who sits at the pub with a half pint of the local brew and studies the OS map. The sort of person who strives to be unobtrusive and, in general, not a pest but a sharer of a really lovely area.
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Agreed! Equus, if you have not yet had the experience of cringing in shame as a large group of Americans complains loudly (because they think no one around them speaks English) about French food, French language, and French people in general...wait a month or so. Those are the tourists we mean.
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Sorry, meant the clueless, entitled-to-everything [all-the-bad-language-adjectives-that-apply] sort of tourists. Am not doing well at the mental and verbal clarity stuff (stupid bloody damned CFS, just because I went to the opera on Sunday, it'll flare for another two or three days yet...).
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I would like to say for the record: Tourist Season and the hunting and such made me giggle. A goodly bit.
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