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Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49053] Sun, 08 April 2012 20:49 Go to next message
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Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49054 is a reply to message #49053 ] Sun, 08 April 2012 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don’t like phones, okay? I’ve never liked phones.

I have so far avoided getting a cell phone because the very idea that someone could call me at any time is so terrifying that I'd rather get stuck halfway home and have to walk my broken bicycle straight to the dentist than have the ability to call someone to come rescue me.

I will say, though, that you're wrong about the coat hangers. The ones that are appearing in these empty closets have merely been removed from mine. Without any human intervention. Along with every hair tie in the house. (Though that might be the kitten.)
Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49055 is a reply to message #49053 ] Sun, 08 April 2012 21:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your comment about the phone lines always being bad connections rang alarm bells, not sure if anyone has mentioned this before but unless you have had fibre installed (which Im fairly sure you havent) then your broadband is sent over your copper phone lines

So if your standard phone line is crappy due to interference, then that has a direct affect on your broadband performance, it will likely manifest as random disconnects all over the place and sometimes trouble getting connected.

Sound familiar?

I had the same problem but here in NZ when they lay cable to the house they do it in two pairs of cable, so they switched to the other pair (and cut about 3 m of damaged cable off) and my performance was much better. Not sure if that is an option for you in the UK?

Also I recommend (if you havent already) getting a Powerboard with a powerfilter in it *and* ports for your phone lines to plug into. If its that bad, then it may spike badly enough over time to damage your router or anything else electrical plugged into it
Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49056 is a reply to message #49053 ] Sun, 08 April 2012 22:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If having us feel tortured with your Mystery Fun was the goal, then yes, I feel tortured. Silent but intense screams of agony are even now wafting across the land between here and the Atlantic and will soon be wafting across the ways, you-ward, to give you the satisfaction of knowing your torture plan was successful.

Aside from that...due to my few but intense years in the USMC, when I was in charge of a small programming group doing Vital Work for the Nation (we were trying to get age-old accounting records out of green steel file cabinets guarded by Miss M, who was ancient and territorial, into a form that would mean the bills actually got paid...while using computers so primitive, compared to today's netbooks, that any software using a 100K (K, not M or G) partition was banned) I have Secret Words of Power to land on bright young things who dare consider me a Silver Surfer. (No, dear child, I have said, I was not taught to use my PC to file recipes by someone your age. I programmed 1401s in Assembler, infant, and you would lick my toes and beg mercy if YOU had to locate the single misplaced comma in a core dump covering the entire floor, when the only tool we had was eyes on the code and you had to follow your chunk of input data to find out what happened to it. I gave up programming to write science fiction, so take your condescending dear-little-granny attitude and stuff it up a rocket and fire it off to some other galaxy.)

In reality, I had two geniuses in my unit, much better coders than I was (both would now be my age, if still alive, and I relish the thought of someone telling the former SSgt J-P- that he was a Silver Surfer. More than heads would roll. I was good at the logic end, but the finicky side of coding (including using a keypunch) was not my strong point. But all those black/brown/blond headed surfers who think they invented all this are going to be silverheaded or bald someday, and then...HA!

(We silver-heads get excited so easily about these things...)

Technology that doesn't work like it's supposed to...and people who are sure it would if you only did what they tell you, which you have done, and redone, and redone again...annoy. it's so frustrating. People tell you, Oh, this is EASY--anyone can do it--and then your tech, snickering evilly in its plastic case, refuses to let you do it, and you get the blame. Though I strongly suspect your phone line. Sympathy.


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Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49057 is a reply to message #49053 ] Sun, 08 April 2012 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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::dies of curiosity::

::enters afterlife furious that premature death has prevented her from FINDING OUT WHAT ROBIN WAS TALKING ABOUT!!!::


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Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49061 is a reply to message #49056 ] Mon, 09 April 2012 00:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You programmed in Assembler! I really liked Assembler, although I ended up writing applications in COBOL. I worked for the Social Security Administration in the 70s, and by the time I got there they had replaced their 1401s with S/360s (room-filling machines with banks and banks of refrigerator-sized tape drives, for those too young to remember when computers looked like that), that were THE state-of-the-art business processors, but the 10-year-old laptop on my desk has so much more memory and processing power . . .

I had not encountered the phrase "silver surfer" until tonight's blog entry. GIVE ME A BREAK!



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Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49062 is a reply to message #49053 ] Mon, 09 April 2012 01:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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who uses a landline any more?

Well, I do. Smile Despite the presence of multiple towers in our area, our cell phones are mostly non-functional at the house because we don't get a signal. I assume we are in a hollow or something. And the landline doesn't need charging and works if the power goes out, and it can't be hacked. (And, like Robin, I give my cell number to VERY FEW people.)

I could sit there watching Pooka and the desktop pointing fingers at each other and saying: She did it!

This is the way of multiple interfacing technologies. Or they both blame some subordinate piece of hardware or software. It immensely complicates the user's attempts to figure out what's going on, and provides equipment manufacturers with many useful ways to evade taking responsibility for problems. Are we having fun yet?



"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49064 is a reply to message #49053 ] Mon, 09 April 2012 05:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

and I was getting a helpful pop-up message saying ‘your broadband is moving at a somewhat slower than measurable rate. Glaciers are faster. Liver flukes are evolving into diplodocuses while we wait for the signal from the historic maypole on your cul-de-sac. We don’t hold out a lot of hope for this conversation you’re trying to have.’

Love it. Smile

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She got me on Skype. She got me on Skype’s Instant Messaging, which was hiding. No, really.


Yes, Skype can have its little ways. Connectivity seems to be helped if all parties are on the most recent version - but on the last few versions for PCs, it's not as obvious as it was where any text chat is happening. I'm glad you managed to connect, eventually.

(We use Skype all the time at work, including holding 10-participant team meetings on it. Mostly, it's fine. Smile )

Looking forward to hearing about The New Idea.


"Never let a computer know you're in a hurry."
Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49065 is a reply to message #49061 ] Mon, 09 April 2012 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Diane in MN wrote on Mon, 09 April 2012 05:45


I had not encountered the phrase "silver surfer" until tonight's blog entry. GIVE ME A BREAK!

It's a fairly common phrase over here, unfortunately. In fact, there are IT courses advertised for adult learners that use it in the promotion blurb. Patronising gits!


"Never let a computer know you're in a hurry."
Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49067 is a reply to message #49053 ] Mon, 09 April 2012 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My understanding of Silver Surfer is a villain in the Fantastic Four, and personally, any chance to be connected to comics can be fun. My friends and I had a whole superhero/supervillain Halloween once right when we were getting to that age where it was kinda inappropriate to trick-or-treat anymore.

As for the surprise, I'm intensely interested. Because the reader forum is detached from the blog itself, I'm not sure if the blog exists to create conversation or just to hear from Robin. It has to be her style and humour in the writing seeing as it isn't excerpts from the books or exclusively book related subjects. Hmmmm....

As for Skype, it totally does hide the chat function. It is the only way for me to keep in touch with my Dad back in the US while I'm in the UK. He, too, is permanently logged in and he rarely checks his email, so I never know what to do if he doesn't answer the call at the agreed time. He never sees the IMs I send... Rawr, Skype. (I had to teach him how to use a USB drive to save his recipes though. Hilarious whoever mentioned that)
Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49069 is a reply to message #49053 ] Mon, 09 April 2012 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've tried Skype exactly twice, with the same person. One time the picture was a total blur, and the other we were reduced to writing notes and holding them up to the camera. How silly was that?

Presumably other people are better at troubleshooting these little foibles.
Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49072 is a reply to message #49067 ] Mon, 09 April 2012 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I love skype! I've got relatives in other countries, and a boyfriend on Svalbard (Ny-Ålesund to be exact, a place which even bans cell phone use...), and skype is a life saver. With skype, we can sit chatting, or just doing stuff in companionable silence, for hours every night. Without skype, I would be broke because of high phone bills Razz

Skype mostly works for me (most techonolgy mostly works for me (knocks on wood) but sometimes it benefits from a good scolding....)

By the way, I picked up my new dog yesterday, after a rather hellish journey, and I might possibly get a guest post out of it. How often do you look through ads for dogs to find the son of your late and very beloved dog?

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Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49073 is a reply to message #49072 ] Mon, 09 April 2012 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Always in the market for a good guest post. NEW DOG? At very least there must be PHOTOS. Smile
Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49074 is a reply to message #49053 ] Mon, 09 April 2012 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah, Skype. I use it with some people, and it usually works . . . okayish. I don't love it, but for some friends (and family), it's the best option, even though the program is fiddly and the quality of audio and visual isn't the best.

Definitely curious about your New Idea!!!


Smooshes!
Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49080 is a reply to message #49061 ] Mon, 09 April 2012 23:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Diane: Assembler, COBOL, and a couple of really nifty early database management software names that were ditched by the Corps because they took up a whole 100K partition on what was then an impressively huge 360. Remember JPL? (Not Jet Propulsion Laboratory, but Job Programming Language...) I hated Assembler with a purple passion, because I'm a lousy keypuncher and thus mistyped things. COBOL wasn't much better but at least when you compiled it, it would tell you more or less where you went wrong, instead of having the floor of my room in the BOQ covered with a core dump printout. As I said, I was really good with the flowcharts and the logic, and not so with the actual coding.

What we did was create a relational database management system out of a paper system for two different accounting messes, one that had to manage some hundreds of thousands of records and one that handled somewhere around a million. And could generate reports for Congresscritters who asked things like "How many E-3s and under shipped overweight household goods in the last 12 months?" or "On what dates did John Doe utilize military air transport and who were the providers?" or "Did the President's son-in-law (then a Marine officer) ship overweight household goods to his next assignment after he married the President's daughter and charge it all to the Corps?" (On the last: No, he paid the overage charges promptly.)

With records limited, of course, to 80 letters-or-numbers. We did it first in one of the newer chunks of software, then were told--no, you can't use that, it takes the 100K partition--do it in COBOL which takes only 56K. You used COBOL--you can imagine that that conversion was like. Not written as a database management software at all. I pretended I'd never heard of COBOL during the whole Y2K panic when people were trying to find COBOL programmers and bring them back into service. No. Not entering that madness again.


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Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49083 is a reply to message #49080 ] Tue, 10 April 2012 01:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EMoon: You guys did a monster job! Bravo! And oh yeah, I remember JPL; I also remember writing detailed procedures so the computer operators wouldn't screw up the JPL decks needed to run jobs. This makes me think of the many, many chances of going wrong there were in a system that went from coding sheets to card decks to a card hopper to a tape that had to be labeled and filed properly . . . It's amazing it all went as well as it did.



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Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49105 is a reply to message #49083 ] Tue, 10 April 2012 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Diane in MN wrote on Mon, 09 April 2012 22:30

EMoon: You guys did a monster job! Bravo! And oh yeah, I remember JPL; I also remember writing detailed procedures so the computer operators wouldn't screw up the JPL decks needed to run jobs. This makes me think of the many, many chances of going wrong there were in a system that went from coding sheets to card decks to a card hopper to a tape that had to be labeled and filed properly . . . It's amazing it all went as well as it did.

My first computer language was BASIC (on a big timeshared HP) but I learned just enough JPL to run FORTRAN decks in college. Do you remember the trick of drawing a diagonal line across the top of a deck so that you could reassemble it if it got dropped?
My only COBOL was grafting a front end (a bit of assembler there) to a FORTRAN machine control system so I could give the user a formatted screen for input. I still prize my copy of the COBOL standard because it is nice to have a book on your shelf that says in big letters "MINIMUM COBOL".
Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49109 is a reply to message #49073 ] Tue, 10 April 2012 17:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My sister is coming on Thursday, and we'll have a photo shoot then. So far I've only got one good picture of him...

I'll see what I can do about the guest post Wink Do you have any guidelines for guest posts?
Re: Jolly jolly jolly jolly Easter technology [message #49111 is a reply to message #49109 ] Tue, 10 April 2012 17:16 Go to previous message
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