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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48204 is a reply to message #48203 ] Wed, 08 February 2012 21:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fiona would LOVE to be able to relocate and open a yarn store (or preferably a combined yarn, book and music store with attached tearoom and chocolate counter Wink ) but there are a few fairly insurmountable obstacles to this plan!
If I was a little bit nearer I'd gladly offer to pop over and sit in the corner and be a good luck charm on a regular basis Wink

Glad things seem to be going not too badly at Forza - just remember the leopard repellent for next time.....
Re: There is hope, continued [message #48205 is a reply to message #48203 ] Wed, 08 February 2012 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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c'mon it is the jubilee! that's kinda sorta a big deal. I mean, I have mixed feelings on the monarchy, but the queen's been at it for a helluva long time, and she's pretty good at it. Whatever the heck 'it' is. So fair play to her; I don't begrudge her a glass of cheap bubbly on an important anniversary. & they're not making nearly as much of a Big Deal about it as they used to do with say, Victoria.
Re: There is hope, continued [message #48207 is a reply to message #48203 ] Wed, 08 February 2012 22:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But I grasped my rope and clenched my teeth . . . and the Grandsire was not a total drooling foozle. I had to be fetched out of a hole twice, I think, by the Scary Man shouting in my ear, but I managed to see quite a bit of what I was doing. There is hope. THERE IS.


Yaayyy!!! Good for you.

(Re. leopard repellant: how on earth are you supposed to use it with both hands on your bell rope?)


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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48208 is a reply to message #48207 ] Wed, 08 February 2012 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Leopard repellent goes on your shoes; then your hands are free for the bell rope. (And the leopard, trying to track you, goes "Eeeeuw!!!" and turns away after something easier.)

Tonight was my second choir rehearsal after the long break to finish the revisions. We had to sight-read Svengali's music. Svengali not only runs the music program, and teaches voice, but composes. Much as I worship the ground Svengali walks on, I am not overwhelmed with glee about his music, and tonight the piece in question gave the worst line to the altos. Counter-intuitive and completely unmelodic. The basses got a nice line. The tenors got a nice line. The sopranos got the melody, and we got something that jumps around like a toad on drugs, no reason for any particular leap in no particular direction. But we learned it, and we sang it, and I still (singing it correctly) hate it.

Next week, a voice lesson again.


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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48209 is a reply to message #48208 ] Wed, 08 February 2012 23:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah, that explains it!


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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48211 is a reply to message #48203 ] Thu, 09 February 2012 00:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chaos, who, as we know, has no attention span and after four and a half years of wearing a harness instead of a collar, cannot reliably remember to pick both front feet up to have it put on, remembers EVERY TREE he has ever chased a squirrel into.

This lets you know what is important to the dog brain. Or at least to Chaos's brain.

Neither of my hellhounds is prompt about the bodily-functions business.

They are not alone in this, believe me. Teddy takes more time to find Just The Right Spot than any dog I've ever had to wait for, and that's saying a lot. If it's very cold he just looks really unhappy while the hunt for the perfect place goes on and on. Aaargh.



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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48212 is a reply to message #48204 ] Thu, 09 February 2012 00:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had to stop by my local yarn store on my way to dog training this (very cold) evening. There were no customers when I got there, and the owner was sitting by her nice gas fireplace knitting away on some project. It was very cozy and inviting, even without a tearoom and chocolate counter! Smile



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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48213 is a reply to message #48203 ] Thu, 09 February 2012 02:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But it’s rounds in a GIGANTIC room and I feel bizarrely vulnerable as if there are leopards in the shadows.‡‡ I feel all sort of wavery and reed-like, out in the middle of the floor like that

Oh gosh, I know that feeling exactly (Liverpool Anglican Cathedral, huge industrial ringing chamber, 12 bells, heavy - and having to stand on a doughnut-like 3ft raised platform to ring!!!). Total nervous breakdown, looking into the abyss. There is a photo of Frank and I, both Cathedral novices, both terrified, ringing rounds on adjacent bells. My hands are down at the bottom of my backstroke, Frank's hands are above his head! Rounds!!?! Ha!! Smile

But hey, most importantly - well done on the Grandsire!!


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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48214 is a reply to message #48211 ] Thu, 09 February 2012 03:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Diane in MN wrote on Thu, 09 February 2012 00:51


Neither of my hellhounds is prompt about the bodily-functions business.

They are not alone in this, believe me. Teddy takes more time to find Just The Right Spot than any dog I've ever had to wait for, and that's saying a lot. If it's very cold he just looks really unhappy while the hunt for the perfect place goes on and on. Aaargh.

Yes.
The only time I can be pretty certain things will ... work quickly... is when they've just had a swim. Not going to help with Hellhounds though... Sad


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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48215 is a reply to message #48213 ] Thu, 09 February 2012 04:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CathyR wrote on Thu, 09 February 2012 02:38

But it’s rounds in a GIGANTIC room and I feel bizarrely vulnerable as if there are leopards in the shadows.‡‡ I feel all sort of wavery and reed-like, out in the middle of the floor like that

Oh gosh, I know that feeling exactly (Liverpool Anglican Cathedral, huge industrial ringing chamber, 12 bells, heavy - and having to stand on a doughnut-like 3ft raised platform to ring!!!). Total nervous breakdown, looking into the abyss. There is a photo of Frank and I, both Cathedral novices, both terrified, ringing rounds on adjacent bells. My hands are down at the bottom of my backstroke, Frank's hands are above his head! Rounds!!?! Ha!! Smile

But hey, most importantly - well done on the Grandsire!!


Grandsire is very important. Smile A 'Well Done' is definitely in order!! Smile

And I think that description of being in the ringing chamber preeeetty much summed up how I felt in every tower around England when I visited... LOL (Me, a rank beginner! Ringing in a UK BigNameCathedral! aaaiiieeeeee) The only VERY SLIM thought that gave me any backbone at all was "I learnt to ring in a cathedral". We're only SMALL but it COUNTED. LOL


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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48217 is a reply to message #48213 ] Thu, 09 February 2012 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CathyR wrote on Thu, 09 February 2012 07:38


Oh gosh, I know that feeling exactly (Liverpool Anglican Cathedral, huge industrial ringing chamber, 12 bells, heavy - and having to stand on a doughnut-like 3ft raised platform to ring!!!). Total nervous breakdown, looking into the abyss. There is a photo of Frank and I, both Cathedral novices, both terrified, ringing rounds on adjacent bells. My hands are down at the bottom of my backstroke, Frank's hands are above his head! Rounds!!?! Ha!! Smile

So, one of you was on the tenor and the other was on the treble? Very Happy


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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48218 is a reply to message #48203 ] Thu, 09 February 2012 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But I’d programmed myself too well.

It's a pain, that, isn't it. I felt the same about yesterday evening's practise. I sat in the car, on the driveway, in the cold and the dark, and felt I was just too tired/fed up to go. But I went anyway. And it was fine once I was there - well, fine until I was standing there practising (I thought) the plain course of Plain Bob Doubles from the two, and suddenly the conductor started calling bobs. OK, I was unaffected, but nooooo...the bells I was trying to follow all started changing. Help! Smile

Re the Diamond Jubilee celebrations that have just started, one of my non-ringing local friends aimed a Tweet at me on Monday evening, to ask what on earth was going on with the bells at Canterbury Cathedral as it sounded as though they'd gone mad and as if "someone had sat down hard on a giant piano keyboard". When I asked a ringing friend what was up, the Cathedral band had apparently been working up to an extended session of 'firing' in honour of the Jubilee. She said it got better as they got further into it. Smile

(For anyone who hasn't heard this, firing is when all the bells pull off exactly together, at both hand and back stroke. A small example is here.) It must have sounded pretty alarming from the big 12 at the Cathedral!)

[Updated on: Thu, 09 February 2012 09:19]


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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48219 is a reply to message #48217 ] Thu, 09 February 2012 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AJLR wrote on Thu, 09 February 2012 13:35

CathyR wrote on Thu, 09 February 2012 07:38


Oh gosh, I know that feeling exactly (Liverpool Anglican Cathedral, huge industrial ringing chamber, 12 bells, heavy - and having to stand on a doughnut-like 3ft raised platform to ring!!!). Total nervous breakdown, looking into the abyss. There is a photo of Frank and I, both Cathedral novices, both terrified, ringing rounds on adjacent bells. My hands are down at the bottom of my backstroke, Frank's hands are above his head! Rounds!!?! Ha!! Smile

So, one of you was on the tenor and the other was on the treble? Very Happy


If only! I'd probably struggle on the treble (9cwt), never mind the tenor (82cwt, 4100kg, 4 tons)!! It's the heaviest and highest peal of bells hung for change ringing in the world.

Mind you, it's skill not brute strength (although it does usually take two people to ring the tenor up). I've seen a fairly slight teenage girl ring that tenor.

We've probably a second visit there in a couple of months. Hopefully I'll do better. I'll think of Robin to give me strength! Smile


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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48223 is a reply to message #48211 ] Thu, 09 February 2012 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Neither of my hellhounds is prompt about the bodily-functions business.

They are not alone in this, believe me. Teddy takes more time to find Just The Right Spot than any dog I've ever had to wait for, and that's saying a lot.


Sigh. I worked with a Chow once who had to have a bush to hide behind. Luckily, his overall sweetness made up for the difficulty of finding bushes in heavily urbaniaed showgrounds.
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Diane in MN wrote on Thu, 09 February 2012 00:51


Neither of my hellhounds is prompt about the bodily-functions business.

They are not alone in this, believe me. Teddy takes more time to find Just The Right Spot than any dog I've ever had to wait for, and that's saying a lot. If it's very cold he just looks really unhappy while the hunt for the perfect place goes on and on. Aaargh.



I've gone so far as to attempt to clear a path through snow and ice so that the prima donna boy greyhound can not only perform bodily functions, but have an appropriate selection of places from which to choose. Of course I didn't clear the right places.
Re: There is hope, continued [message #48237 is a reply to message #48218 ] Thu, 09 February 2012 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AJLR wrote on Fri, 10 February 2012 00:52

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But I’d programmed myself too well.

It's a pain, that, isn't it. I felt the same about yesterday evening's practise.


You want to try waiting 40 minutes for a late bride (plus another 20 minutes for the over-long service) when the temperature is 35+ degrees Celsius.

And we're a ground-floor ring on display so we have to look respectable. No ringing in shorts, singlets and thongs. :+<

Audrey
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Audrey Falconer wrote on Thu, 09 February 2012 22:20

AJLR wrote on Fri, 10 February 2012 00:52

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But I’d programmed myself too well.

It's a pain, that, isn't it. I felt the same about yesterday evening's practise.


You want to try waiting 40 minutes for a late bride (plus another 20 minutes for the over-long service) when the temperature is 35+ degrees Celsius.

And we're a ground-floor ring on display so we have to look respectable. No ringing in shorts, singlets and thongs. :+<

Audrey


That's why we have air-con. And a seperate tower. Razz


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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48242 is a reply to message #48240 ] Fri, 10 February 2012 01:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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b_twin_1 wrote on Fri, 10 February 2012 03:41

Audrey Falconer wrote on Thu, 09 February 2012 22:20

AJLR wrote on Fri, 10 February 2012 00:52

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But I’d programmed myself too well.

It's a pain, that, isn't it. I felt the same about yesterday evening's practise.


You want to try waiting 40 minutes for a late bride (plus another 20 minutes for the over-long service) when the temperature is 35+ degrees Celsius.

And we're a ground-floor ring on display so we have to look respectable. No ringing in shorts, singlets and thongs. :+<

Audrey


That's why we have air-con. And a seperate tower. Razz


Air con!? You ring in some luxury! Wink


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CathyR wrote on Fri, 10 February 2012 01:44

b_twin_1 wrote on Fri, 10 February 2012 03:41

Audrey Falconer wrote on Thu, 09 February 2012 22:20

AJLR wrote on Fri, 10 February 2012 00:52

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But I’d programmed myself too well.

It's a pain, that, isn't it. I felt the same about yesterday evening's practise.


You want to try waiting 40 minutes for a late bride (plus another 20 minutes for the over-long service) when the temperature is 35+ degrees Celsius.

And we're a ground-floor ring on display so we have to look respectable. No ringing in shorts, singlets and thongs. :+<

Audrey


That's why we have air-con. And a seperate tower. Razz


Air con!? You ring in some luxury! Wink


If we didn't have air-con then we basically wouldn't ring over the summer at all. On average we're hotter up here than Melbourne. I was still surprised to learn that we were only one of 2 towers in Victoria that had A/C - and up until a year or so ago we were the *only* ones. *boggled*
Of course, we don't have an ancient stone tower so logistically it was pretty easy to install...


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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48244 is a reply to message #48243 ] Fri, 10 February 2012 02:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I rang in a church some time ago, a ground floor ring - with underfloor heating!! Now that was luxury! Smile


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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48248 is a reply to message #48203 ] Fri, 10 February 2012 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My parents' current dog appears to have to sit on a thorn or a stinging-nettle in order to function, which my mother says looks horrendously painful!

And male dogs do pee every yard or so, not to relieve their bladders but for scent-marking purposes. A great nuisance....


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Re: There is hope, continued [message #48261 is a reply to message #48203 ] Sat, 11 February 2012 03:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Today’s the something anniversary of the Queen swimming the English Channel or bungie-jumping off the Forth Bridge or the day she dropped the Black Prince’s Ruby down the loo during an especially tedious reception, or something really important.

I'm not particularly a royalist (though prefer having a Queen as Head of State to a President), but the accession to the throne is kind of a big deal. It is certainly acceptable to complain about the cheapness of the fizz, but that's the Church of England for you.
Re: There is hope, continued [message #48331 is a reply to message #48261 ] Mon, 13 February 2012 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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anef wrote on Sat, 11 February 2012 00:19

Today’s the something anniversary of the Queen swimming the English Channel or bungie-jumping off the Forth Bridge or the day she dropped the Black Prince’s Ruby down the loo during an especially tedious reception, or something really important.

I'm not particularly a royalist (though prefer having a Queen as Head of State to a President), but the accession to the throne is kind of a big deal. It is certainly acceptable to complain about the cheapness of the fizz, but that's the Church of England for you.

For me the critical thing here is that in the UK the head of state is not also the chief executive. In the US the President is both and it is wrenching to oppose or replace him. Replacing the prime minister is nowhere near as big a deal. Part of this is the parliamentary system which makes it mechanically easier but I think a lot of it is that the distinction between "a vote of no confidence" and "deposing the king" is not preserved in US system.
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In many countries, of course, the Head of State is elected but does not have any governmental authority - reigns but doesn't rule, just like our Queen. Ireland springs to mind, and France to a certain extent. I don't know whether being Head of State by accident of birth is better or worse than being it by popular vote. Certainly kings have been elected in the past, although not so much here.


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