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Mon, 01 December 2008 19:16   |
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If you listen very carefully, you can hear the sound of thousands of fans weeping as they hug their hardback/signed/special-never-read copies of Sunshine.
Smooshes!
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6563 is a reply to message #6555 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 19:39 |
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For some reason, when I read the title I thought it applied to Albion(since it is in the Sunshine 'Verse...) and it felt for a minute or seven like someone I knew had died. Then I got about halfway through the post and realised you meant a sequel about Sunshine herself and that Albion is still in the works and not going anywhere and could breathe again...
The ending of Sunshine is perfect. I know you know this, Robin, I just want to assert it again in case anyone else still doesn't know it. If it had ended any differently at all it would have been less-than-perfect - but it didn't, it ended perfectly.
"The center of every man's existence is a dream. Death, disease, insanity, are merely material accidents, like a toothache or a twisted ankle. That these brutal forces always besiege and often capture the citadel does not prove that they are the citadel."
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6564 is a reply to message #6555 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 19:43 |
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I agree with southdowner--Sunshine is perfect the way it is. I loved the ending, I liked that there were loose ends (for a while there I kept thinking, what about Mel's tattoos? but I got over it) because I really hate books that are so organized and perfect--different kind of perfect--you know, the ones where the first and last pages are nearly identical? Twee books, maybe that says it.
"What does Beauty mean?" Oh, I would like to read some of those answers. If you answered back.
Once, when I was sick, (it was the holidays and EVERYONE was there) my mother put me up in a bedroom, then sent in all the little kids so I could tell them a story. So I told them Beauty and the Beast. And afterwards I said something about a beast being more than a beast, that you have to look deeper, etc. So I turned to Brandon, who had a fear of sharks that kept him up in the middle of the night--he was about 5--and said, "Now see, if you were in a boat and you saw a shark, wouldn't you look at it differently?" And he said "I'd run like hell!" Well, I had a fever at the time. I tried.
"And by the way you look fantastic in your boots of Chinese plastic."
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6571 is a reply to message #6555 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 19:51 |
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You can't write what's not in your head. Unfortunately.
"And by the way you look fantastic in your boots of Chinese plastic."
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6573 is a reply to message #6555 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 20:01 |
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The bunny bites? This is disturbing.
"And by the way you look fantastic in your boots of Chinese plastic."
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6577 is a reply to message #6573 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 20:07 |
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You've seen Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail, haven't you, Shelley? The Bunny With Big Pointy Teeth Like This! Though, now I think about it, I don't want that Bunny to bite Robin...
"The center of every man's existence is a dream. Death, disease, insanity, are merely material accidents, like a toothache or a twisted ankle. That these brutal forces always besiege and often capture the citadel does not prove that they are the citadel."
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6578 is a reply to message #6555 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 20:10 |
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I think the hellhounds would take care of it for her, Angel. That'd be one wicked bunny bite.
"And by the way you look fantastic in your boots of Chinese plastic."
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6579 is a reply to message #6578 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 20:16 |
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Hazel and team are offering back up!
Someone says "pie" and we all go on alert, like meercats. "Pie? Where?" - Blackbear
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6582 is a reply to message #6555 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 20:36 |
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All right! Got that covered, then.
"And by the way you look fantastic in your boots of Chinese plastic."
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6583 is a reply to message #6573 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 20:37 |
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| ssshunt wrote on Tue, 02 December 2008 01:01 |
The bunny bites? This is disturbing.
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The plot bunny.
Plot bunnies are small furry creatures which have a plot for a story and they pick a human to tell it to. They can be fickle little beggars and if neglected they tend to go off in a sulk, resulting in writer's block.
It's possible that they are agents of Robin's Story Council, but I have no evidence either way....
Don't worry about the dust bunnies, they're just here to guard the treasure.....
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6584 is a reply to message #6583 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 20:40 |
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| Vikkik wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 20:37 |
| ssshunt wrote on Tue, 02 December 2008 01:01 |
The bunny bites? This is disturbing.
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The plot bunny.
Plot bunnies are small furry creatures which have a plot for a story and they pick a human to tell it to. They can be fickle little beggars and if neglected they tend to go off in a sulk, resulting in writer's block.
It's possible that they are agents of Robin's Story Council, but I have no evidence either way....
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*sputter* i was drinking thank you very much[gets out the paper towels]
Bonnie Holmes the faster ahead I go, the more behind I get
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6585 is a reply to message #6555 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 20:43 |
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You're welcome!
[Updated on: Mon, 01 December 2008 20:43]
"And by the way you look fantastic in your boots of Chinese plastic."
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6586 is a reply to message #6555 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 21:06 |
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Most of what I say in ‘When are you going to write another Damar book’ applies to SUNSHINE, barring details like the half-million out-of-control words in a box in the attic (that’s KIRITH, I’ve told you about KIRITH, yes?). I’m still neurotic and insecure. Although the interesting and hopeful truth is that I am less neurotic and insecure than I was thirty years ago. But I still don’t seem to write sequels.
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Kirith? Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember this! *hopefully adds to list of topics to be blogged about later?*
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6587 is a reply to message #6555 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 21:06 |
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 Susan from Athens
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Lifting head above parapet, behind which I ducked to avoid any more flame throwing action. Wow, what brought that on? I mean, I realise it was one inquiry too many, but how must it have been worded to get such a vehement response? Worry not, oh Hellgoddess, there is a certain faithful band, as Southdowner and others have stated who stay up until early morning for you blog entries (cursing the lucky ones who live on the further side of the Greenwich line). Sequels, no, we have no expectation (hope yes, expection no, demand h*** no - it would be more vehement but my language has been censored before so asterisks will have to serve).
Deep breath. Why respond? Why get het up? All that energy, surely you can use it to weed? (Do people weed in Hampshire in November? Here we weed year-round, even on the balcony). You can use it to make your next class with Conny, or compose your next piece of music.
Let's see what questions we can pose that will NOT get such a reaction?
1. When will we hear another of those lovely compositions?
2. Is it likely we will see a photo of you riding Conny?
3. Have you recorded any of your ringing sessions?
4. Any video of you ringing Stedman, now that you have ***whispering*** mastered the method?
5. What other recipes can we finagle out of you?
There, now you have any number of productive things to stew about. And I will head off to bed now, as I intended doing some three hours ago. I will, I swear it.
“I have always imagined heaven to be a kind of library.” –Jorge Luis Borges
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Mon, 01 December 2008 21:22 |
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anne_d
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Sunshine is perfect; the ending is just right, like the end of the last episode of Buffy - all possibilities.
I wouldn't mind learning more about her world and its history, should you feel so inclined, but if not, I'm okay with that too.
What I want is more McKinley. Just keep on doing what you're doing, and I'll read whatever you write, hellhounds, horses, roses, bells, or just nattering about you and Peter.
"The creative urge can come out in any form: in embroidery, in... cooking, in painting, drawing and sculpture, in composing music, as well as in writing books and stories... the artist's inner satisfaction was probably much the same." ~ Agatha Christie
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6593 is a reply to message #6555 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 21:30 |
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yes, i totally agree with all comments above. we want to read anything you are willing to share with us,just keep them coming.
Bonnie Holmes the faster ahead I go, the more behind I get
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6595 is a reply to message #6586 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 21:32 |
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| Mori-neko wrote on Tue, 02 December 2008 02:06 |
Kirith? Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember this! *hopefully adds to list of topics to be blogged about later?*
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I think Kirith was mentioned in the reports of the bookshop signing; Robin told us about it then...
Someone says "pie" and we all go on alert, like meercats. "Pie? Where?" - Blackbear
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6597 is a reply to message #6555 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 21:37 |
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And? And?
"And by the way you look fantastic in your boots of Chinese plastic."
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6600 is a reply to message #6592 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 21:59 |
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handyhunter
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| anne_d wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 21:22 |
Sunshine is perfect; the ending is just right, like the end of the last episode of Buffy - all possibilities.
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I think it's more like the ending of Angel, which I loved too. (Also, partly because Buffy got a comic series to continue the story, while I pretend Angel did not because I liked "Not Fade Away" so much.)
I thought Sunshine had a great ending. Open-ended is not the same as a cliffhanger (which I greatly dislike, especially the ones that feel emotionally manipulative, but I digress). And then I saw the new trade edition, with the very pretty cover, in the bookstore today and bought it because I have to have something to read on the plane, you know, in addition to the mumblemumble books I already packed...
[Updated on: Mon, 01 December 2008 22:09]
with a wide open country in my eyes
and these romantic dreams in my head - No Surrender, Bruce Springsteen
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Mon, 01 December 2008 22:17 |
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anne_d
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| handyhunter wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 18:59 |
| anne_d wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 21:22 |
Sunshine is perfect; the ending is just right, like the end of the last episode of Buffy - all possibilities.
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I think it's more like the ending of Angel, which I loved too. (Also, partly because Buffy got a comic series to continue the story, while I pretend Angel did not because I liked "Not Fade Away" so much.)
I thought Sunshine had a great ending. Open-ended is not the same as a cliffhanger (which I greatly dislike, especially the ones that feel emotionally manipulative, but I digress). And then I saw the new trade edition, with the very pretty cover, in the bookstore today and bought it because I have to have something to read on the plane, you know, in addition to the mumblemumble books I already packed...
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Having tried to read the comics - I've decided that Buffy ends with "Chosen". I can imagine better than the comics.
I have four copies of Sunshine *blushes* - one paperback, one hardcover, one trade, and another pb to lend out. Which reminds me that I lent Sunshine to a friend who liked it so much she went out and bought her own copy so she could take it to reread on a business trip.
"The creative urge can come out in any form: in embroidery, in... cooking, in painting, drawing and sculpture, in composing music, as well as in writing books and stories... the artist's inner satisfaction was probably much the same." ~ Agatha Christie
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Mon, 01 December 2008 22:20 |
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anne_d
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| afuzzybird wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 19:11 |
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The frantic, hysterical ones say they haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave to know what happens!!!! They HAVE to! They reeelly reeelly HAAAVE TO!!!!!!
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I would love to see these people read A Series of Unfortunate Events, the last book of which answers only one of the hundreds of persistent questions of the series. The Badger and I thought this was brilliant. Whose real life questions all get answered anyway? And can't these people use a little bit of imagination? I can imagine whatever I please about the end of a story, and as long as I don't blather my daydreams to the author, there's nobody to naysay me.
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My daughters, aka the Demi-Hellgoddesses, also thought The End was brilliant. Younger Daughter recently reread the whole Unfortunate Series - she needed something for silent reading in Lit class. The teacher didn't say it had to be 11th grade level reading, heh heh heh...
"The creative urge can come out in any form: in embroidery, in... cooking, in painting, drawing and sculpture, in composing music, as well as in writing books and stories... the artist's inner satisfaction was probably much the same." ~ Agatha Christie
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6612 is a reply to message #6607 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 22:21 |
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handyhunter
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| anne_d wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 22:17 |
Having tried to read the comics - I've decided that Buffy ends with "Chosen". I can imagine better than the comics.
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Heh. That's how I feel about the Angel comics. Buffy, though... Maybe it's because Whedon was/is involved with it, and it's such a comfort show/series for me that I quite like the comics. I don't think it started out all that well, though*, not until Brian K Vaughan's Faith and Giles arc, which I think is the second volume of the trades.
*Certainly not like Whedon's brilliant Astonishing X-Men. [plug, plug]
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I have four copies of Sunshine *blushes* - one paperback, one hardcover, one trade, and another pb to lend out.
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Me too. I don't lend out books, though; I tend to just give them away.
with a wide open country in my eyes
and these romantic dreams in my head - No Surrender, Bruce Springsteen
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6613 is a reply to message #6555 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 22:25 |
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i will lend my series to select people but i once let my dragon series by anne mccaffrey to someone and didn't get them back, i had to buy them all again.
Bonnie Holmes the faster ahead I go, the more behind I get
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6620 is a reply to message #6617 ] |
Tue, 02 December 2008 00:19 |
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My brain supplies "adjacental", but I said "That's not a real word!" and my brain said "But it fits!". So, Robin doesn't write sequels, but she does occasionally write adjacentals...
Edit: My brain is protesting that I didn't tell ya'll the reasoning for it. The stories aren't sequential, but they are adjacent to one another(in the same 'Verse, etc), hence "adjacental"
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"The center of every man's existence is a dream. Death, disease, insanity, are merely material accidents, like a toothache or a twisted ankle. That these brutal forces always besiege and often capture the citadel does not prove that they are the citadel."
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6627 is a reply to message #6555 ] |
Tue, 02 December 2008 03:53 |
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And–just for the record–SUNSHINE has an excellent ending.
Yes, it does. It's a perfect fit.
Unlike, say, the end of THE WITCHES OF KARRES which is manifestly the beginning of the next adventure and I have never forgiven Schmitz for hanging those chapters on the end of his book without (evidently) having an adequate idea of what happens next.
Me too on this one. Although I don't remember if he wrote much else after WITCHES, either. But still.
Have I mentioned recently that touring is not glamorous?
Maybe not recently . . . It is altogether true that flying is a miserable way to travel and business travel is the deepest of pits. But now that you've been blogging, you have acquaintances in many cities who will rescue you from signings, find you decent meals, offer you the use of their washing machines, etc. etc., should you get stuck doing it again. 
Although the interesting and hopeful truth is that I am less neurotic and insecure than I was thirty years ago. But I still don’t seem to write sequels.
But of course you know that this is nothing to be neurotic about. You write what you're given, and you write that very well. Your readers get to go to a lot of interesting different places. Thank you!
"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6634 is a reply to message #6555 ] |
Tue, 02 December 2008 05:18 |
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Delighted to read this vintage (dare I call it a highly justified rant?). I think I wouldn't have half so much patience. In fact I know I wouldn't. The sequel question made me so cross and snarly that after some time I refused even to discuss it with editor, email fans or, by the end, the dog, who seemed to be looking at me with beseeching eyes. Then the blasted Story Council, in their infinite wisdom, jumped in and gave it to me in a very unexpected and sideways kind of way. Gaaah! Well, actually quite a thankful Gaaah!, since I am sort-of enjoying the writing in a wrestling-with-bears kind of way.
Personally, I found the ending of Sunshine utterly satisfying and just right. Yes, of course there are always questions when one is properly engaged with and entranced by the characters in a book. They feel like friends, and so you care what happens to them. But isn't this what imagination is for? Perhaps I'm alone (though I doubt it in this particular sphere!) but I find myself musing a little muse on what-ifs and might-its. Mine will be different to yours and hers and his, but they still give me pleasure. More importantly, they don't demand any answers from Robin, unlike the 'musssssstttttt know wailers'. I am just grateful, Robin, that you have peopled another of the many landscapes which live inside my head. And also glad that I merely visit schools and don't go on book tours. Yet.
Lucy xx
"'Thou shalt not' might reach the head, but it takes 'Once upon a time' to reach the heart."
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| Re: There is no sequel to Sunshine [message #6637 is a reply to message #6613 ] |
Tue, 02 December 2008 06:46 |
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| holmes44 wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 22:25 |
i will lend my series to select people but i once let my dragon series by anne mccaffrey to someone and didn't get them back, i had to buy them all again.
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Yeep. My sympathies!
I hardly ever lend out books. They're MINE. I will just tell people which books to go buy with their own money. They can get their own crumbs and coffee stains on the pages. I worked hard for mine. (Er, I promise my books aren't nasty and food-filled. I do try to take care of them, but I love them and want to be with them. Occasionally we share a cookie.) I don't like being loaned books, either. I don't get crumbs in books that aren't mine, but darnit, I don't want to give them back! MINE. I mean, someone else's, and now I have to go buy my own and it isn't nice and worn where I've read it...
The last time I lent out a book, my friend read it and put it in a pile of stuff...and her husband threw it away.
Threw it away!
What the comma!?
I don't understand why someone would throw away a book! (Okay, there are a couple books I am tempted to throw away just because I think they are that bad, but I'd rather give them to someone who will appreciate them.)
Smooshes!
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) and laughing at the similarities between her answers and yours.
But I'll take Albion, Pegasus and Bells first. 
