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Herein lies the Pollyanna recommendation thread for December 2008.

You're still free to reply to recommendations from previous thread(s), of course. (Not "officially" using a reply URL, though--I just tried that and it didn't work.)

As always, if you have any questions feel free to ask me here or through PM.

[Updated on: Mon, 07 November 2011 16:15]

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I'd just like to say Yay! Maren! for being so amazing and efficient about archiving, setting up book rec threads and general wonderfulness. Thank you, it's much appreciated. And now (as they say) to the recommendations. I can highly recommend Kate Elliott's first series entitled Crown of Stars (seven books for those who like long runs), and her current one entitled Crossroadsso far containing three books. I am at the present moment so senile (senior member, ya know ! Wink) that I can't remember if I have previously recommended Jennifer Fallon. Her new series, Tide Lords is fab, and I am currently awaiting the last all the way from the land of Oz as it's not being published in the UK.


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All right. Having very nearly finished "All the Windwracked Stars" by Elizabeth Bear, I would like to officially recommend it. I love the way she mixes ancient myth with far-future tech, Ragnarok with the Weapons of Mass Destruction-style apocalypse. Wonderful characters, an amazingly imagined "last city," and a multi-layered plot in which the villains might not be so bad after all and the saviors might be destroying the world.


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My recommendation is a book I read as a teenager, called Up a Road Slowly, by Irene Hunt (no relation). I have a copy and read it about once a year. Very well written, about a young woman who had dreams of being a writer.


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Lucy Coats wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 18:35

I'd just like to say Yay! Maren! for being so amazing and efficient about archiving, setting up book rec threads and general wonderfulness. Thank you, it's much appreciated. And now (as they say) to the recommendations. I can highly recommend Kate Elliott's first series entitled Crown of Stars (seven books for those who like long runs), and her current one entitled Crossroadsso far containing three books. I am at the present moment so senile (senior member, ya know ! Wink) that I can't remember if I have previously recommended Jennifer Fallon. Her new series, Tide Lords is fab, and I am currently awaiting the last all the way from the land of Oz as it's not being published in the UK.



Yay Maren from me too! Actually the Kate Elliott book I always liked best, and methinks it predates the Crown of Stars series is Jaran. New world, old world, older world, insider/outsider cultural differences all dealt with in an interesting manner. And lots of horses for lovers of that kind of thing (nobody around here, of course....)


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I think I've mentioned this before, or someone else has, but Elizabeth Gaskell's North and South is a wonderful love story along with a great family drama. If you like Georgette Heyer, you would probably enjoy Gaskell.

[Updated on: Tue, 02 December 2008 15:55]

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I'm sure this has been mentioned at some point in time, but one book that I really love (and am rereading for the millionth time right now) is The Deed of Paksenarrion by Elizabeth Moon (it was originally published as three separate books but they're now collected together). I love the way the main character develops slowly over the course of the books; when you get to the end and then return to the beginning you can see how much she's changed and grown, but it was all step by step and in realistic ways. I also love the world that she's living in, and many of the characters. The one thing that might turn people off is that her training in the beginning was sometimes a bit slow; I skimmed it the first time to get to the juicier bits, although I've since gone back and reread it because it's all important to the story (and once I got where the author was going with it, I found it to be much more interesting). Other than that, I think it's a wonderful book.


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I gave this to my Dad to read and it was the training description that he appreciated. It brought back memories of his basic training when he did national service.
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Susan from Athens wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 20:56

[Actually the Kate Elliott book I always liked best, and methinks it predates the Crown of Stars series is Jaran. New world, old world, older world, insider/outsider cultural differences all dealt with in an interesting manner. And lots of horses for lovers of that kind of thing (nobody around here, of course....)

Thanks Susan--that's a new one for me, so shall go and seek it out. Naturally, not a horse lover <g>


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Yay Maren from me too! Actually the Kate Elliott book I always liked best, and methinks it predates the Crown of Stars series is Jaran. New world, old world, older world, insider/outsider cultural differences all dealt with in an interesting manner. And lots of horses for lovers of that kind of thing (nobody around here, of course....)


Susan, let me also put my hand up for the Jaran books. I really like these - yes lots of horse stuff, but great world building, and characters and intricate plots, and politics and all sorts. The only real bummer is that the series was just starting to get really interesting and then she stopped. And I doubt she will ever go back to it Sad

I started off liking the Crown of Stars series but then it started to get weird, so I stopped reading. I couldnt finish the first CrossRoads book, it just didnt do it for me at the time.

But even for the non horse people, Jaran is a good classic SF read.
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Your skipping the training bits made me laugh, Pahis--I like Elizabeth Moon too, but the only book I really re-read is the very first one in the Deed trilogy because I love the story of the training. I like seeing ordinary folks turn into heroes; once they get to BE heroes it's not nearly as interesting to me, and I couldn't tell you any significant details of the plot of "Deed" past volume 1. But then I also have a rotten memory.... Smile


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ssshunt wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 15:15

My recommendation is a book I read as a teenager, called Up a Road Slowly, by Irene Hunt (no relation). I have a copy and read it about once a year. Very well written, about a young woman who had dreams of being a writer.


Is this the same Irene Hunt who wrote Across Five Aprils? It's a novel about the Civil War that I had to read in junior high, I believe, but I remember it as being very good.
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A great book that I recommend is East by Edith Pattou and also Mara Daughter of the Nile by Eloise Mcgraw.


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shalea wrote on Tue, 02 December 2008 10:27

ssshunt wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 15:15

My recommendation is a book I read as a teenager, called Up a Road Slowly, by Irene Hunt (no relation). I have a copy and read it about once a year. Very well written, about a young woman who had dreams of being a writer.


Is this the same Irene Hunt who wrote Across Five Aprils? It's a novel about the Civil War that I had to read in junior high, I believe, but I remember it as being very good.


I think it is by Irene Hunt. But I'll check.


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ssshunt wrote on Tue, 02 December 2008 19:37

I think it is by Irene Hunt. But I'll check.


Yeah, it's the same author. I shelved those a lot in my library shelver days. Smile

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Yes, Irene Hunt wrote Across Five Aprils (did I get that right), too.

X-post with Maren.

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Thanks all!

And to keep on topic, I'll recommend one of my favorite authors, Barbara Hambly. She's a historian by education and uses that background to give her stories a really convincing sense of place. Add to that characters that feel like real people and interesting plots, and you've got a pretty good idea of her work.

My particular favorites of her fantasy work are, in no particular order: The Time of the Dark, The Walls of Air, and The Armies of Daylight; The Silent Tower and The Silicon Mage; Stranger at the Wedding; Sisters of the Raven and Circle of the Moon; Bride of the Rat God; Ladies of Mandrygyn. Note that in certain of these cases there are related works or sequels which are also good, but I'm not as fond of them as the listed works.

She has a series of mysteries set in 1830's New Orleans which start with A Free Man of Color and are also excellent.

She's also written a book about Renfield (Dracula's guy), a couple of pieces of historical fiction about president's wives, and scads of Star Wars books, none of which I've read yet.
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Is she the same person who has written Star Trek novels? Ishmael is one I particularly liked. Spock, time travel, early Seattle.

ETA I am still amused by the dilithium custard conversation, by the way. Laughing

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Yep. I just haven't tried out her Star Trek stuff.
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I really loved Hambly's Silicon Mage stuff--she swears she will write another at some point, but you know how that goes.


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I'd like to recommend Brian K Vaughan's Ex Machina. It's an on-going graphic novel with 7 trade volumes so far.

Mitchell Hundred is an accidental superhero turned political figure. He's elected Mayor of NYC after his part in the events of an AU 9/11 (because Hundred, as his alterego, The Great Machine, was there to affect the outcome). I was a bit leery about the 9/11 part, but it's used well, not sensationalized or trivialized for the story.

The story is told in non-linear fashion; I think so far there are three timelines: Mitchell in 'present day' as the Mayor; Mitchell just gaining his powers; Mitchell as a child. It's about Hundred's mayorship (his everyday running of the city - which is sort of its own character too) as well as the mystery of his powers (where'd they come from, why him, what they can do, etc), and how the two are related.

I highly recommend it.

Also, BKV's Faith and Giles arc on Whedon's Buffy Season 8, No Future For You. And his own creation, Runaways (which Whedon later had a run on, which I haven't read yet).


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I had heard that, but she's apparently having a devil of a time selling anything but more historical fiction (although I seem to remember she has a deal for a couple more of the mysteries). She talks a lot about her current projects here.
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oh yes i loved that series also! I also loved her a Member of the Wedding book.
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Wow, Hambly doesn't update like Robin does. Thank goodness. I mean that Robin does. Leaving now.


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I'm certain these have been posted before, but I don't see them this month and I only skimmed the old list so I can't guarantee it. I like the Sabriel series by Garth Nix; three books (NOT a trilogy, just three books in the same world that happen to be sequential) that I've really enjoyed. They deal a lot with death and decay, so if you don't like that you probably won't like them, but I really enjoyed the characters (especially Sabriel) and the way he set the world up and made it consistent.


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I got about halfway into the first book and stalled out. Is it really worth continuing? (I seem to be asking this a lot lately...)


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Nix himself refers to it as a trilogy, though. Just thought I'd point that out... I'll second the recommendation on them, though.


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ssshunt wrote on Sat, 06 December 2008 01:26

I got about halfway into the first book and stalled out. Is it really worth continuing? (I seem to be asking this a lot lately...)


I really liked SABRIEL. Of course, I read it when I was much younger, and I don't know how I'd feel about it now. I didn't care as much for the second and third books (LIRAEL AND ABHORSON, I think - don't quote me on the spelling), so if you're stalling with SABRIEL, I wouldn't continue after that. But there's quite a lot of neat stuff in SABRIEL I think is worth reading, especially if you're already halfway through. Everything after this point is you reading out of the book. Wink


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It kind of depends on why you stalled out. If you stalled because you didn't like the characters, you might try skipping to the second book, which picks up about twenty years later with new primary characters.
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ssshunt wrote on Sat, 06 December 2008 06:26

I got about halfway into the first book and stalled out. Is it really worth continuing? (I seem to be asking this a lot lately...)



For what it's worth, I loved all three, most especially Sabriel. I especially like the fact that she fights her beginning battles and learns her trade in a library--don't think that is too much of a spoiler. I'd have another go--it's worth it, honestly! Would I lie to you? Wink


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*ponders*


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Shelley, did you give up on it before you got to meet Touchstone? Because, I think you ought to at least give him a chance... I loved the books when I read them... however many years ago that was...


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Reading Angel wrote on Sat, 06 December 2008 01:28

Nix himself refers to it as a trilogy, though. Just thought I'd point that out... I'll second the recommendation on them, though.


Okay, I hadn't heard that. If that's the author's opinion, then I stand corrected. It's just that it seemed to me to be an original book and then a duology sequel, rather than a trilogy.

Shelley, I agree with what others said. It depends on why you stalled out.

My personal opinion was that I loved Sabriel and Abhorsen. Liriel was good too, but the main characters were very whiny in that book (note that this is not an anti-Pollyanna-ish comment; I felt that it was well-written, felt that their reaction was potentially reasonable and normal, and still liked the book [just not as much as the others]. However, that did take away from the book for me personally).

One thing I liked a lot about Abhorsen was (trying to write this in as unspoiler a way as possible) that Nix's treatment of his "Gollum" character (disclaimer: not saying that he necessarily based this character deliberately on Gollum, just that there were certain similarities) was interesting. There was the hero who had an uncertain relationship with this character (think Frodo-Gollum). There was the hero's sidekick, who couldn't stand this character (think Sam-Gollum). But then he threw in a third character who liked this character and treated him with respect. I enjoyed seeing the way that this played out and the effects on the group dynamics as a whole; perhaps I've said too much (like I said, trying to be discreet), but that made the book a lot better for me.


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Lucy Coats wrote on Sat, 06 December 2008 18:03

ssshunt wrote on Sat, 06 December 2008 06:26

I got about halfway into the first book and stalled out. Is it really worth continuing? (I seem to be asking this a lot lately...)



For what it's worth, I loved all three, most especially Sabriel. I especially like the fact that she fights her beginning battles and learns her trade in a library--don't think that is too much of a spoiler. I'd have another go--it's worth it, honestly! Would I lie to you? Wink



God I am a dork! My mind wanders away from my typing fingers sometimes (make that often). I meant that I love LIRAEL most especially. She's the one in the library. Forgive my idiocy. It seems to be inbuilt....


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Well, I was a little confused there... thanks.


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I just finished "Child of a Rainless Year" by Jane Lindskold...I LOVED that book. It was slowly but deliberately paced, the mysteries unfolded exactly as they might in real life...tantalizing and perfectly structured to draw you slowly but completely into the world. It's not a page-turner because it's action-packed; it's a page-turner because it is mesmerizing!


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That sounds really interesting, ArtfulMagpie. Did I get your name right? But I think I wil check this one out.


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Has anyone mentioned Connie Willis' To Say Nothing of the Dog yet? God, I loved that.


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I think we have, but it never hurts to repeat a recommendation. I loved Willis' Doomsday Book. I thought it used time travel in a fascinating way and didn't make any effort to romanticise the past. And there was bell ringing. Sigh, my copy was never returned by a so-called friend, who moved away and had a going away sale, where he proceeded to sell twenty or so books I had lent him along with whatever of his own he wanted to get rid of. (Please allow me to escape the Pollyanna spirit while I call down a few choice curses on his head - ten years and not forgotten or forgiven).


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I liked "The Doomsday Book" too - and I also liked that, if it didn't romaticise the past, neither did it demonise it. Without moralising, it made it clear that "modern" people can be just as unreasonable and eager to look for scapegoats, for instance, as people in the past - people are people, simply.


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