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Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43443] Fri, 15 July 2011 20:02 Go to next message
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E Moon's Guest Post!


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Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43444 is a reply to message #43443 ] Fri, 15 July 2011 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thorough, eloquent, and absolutely lovely.

Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43445 is a reply to message #43444 ] Fri, 15 July 2011 23:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Amen ... to both Elizabeth and Julia.
Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43446 is a reply to message #43445 ] Sat, 16 July 2011 00:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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skating librarian wrote on Sat, 16 July 2011 15:42

Amen ... to both Elizabeth and Julia.


Ditto.
Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43447 is a reply to message #43443 ] Sat, 16 July 2011 00:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin said: "Hey,Elizabeth! There’s going to be Part Two in August!"

And I say "Huh? Whazzat? Me?"

What I say NOW is that half the calories in bacon must end up on the stove as grease to be cleaned off. Someone else fried bacon tonight while I was in another room. Two someones else ATE the bacon, all of it. Guess who cleaned the grease off the stove. And everything on the stove. And on the counter next to the stove.

I'm going to bed. One of the someones else has already been told off to do the kitchen floor in the morning. NOT me.


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Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43448 is a reply to message #43447 ] Sat, 16 July 2011 03:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EMoon wrote on Sat, 16 July 2011 00:54

Robin said: "Hey,Elizabeth! There’s going to be Part Two in August!"

And I say "Huh? Whazzat? Me?"

What I say NOW is that half the calories in bacon must end up on the stove as grease to be cleaned off. Someone else fried bacon tonight while I was in another room. Two someones else ATE the bacon, all of it. Guess who cleaned the grease off the stove. And everything on the stove. And on the counter next to the stove.

I'm going to bed. One of the someones else has already been told off to do the kitchen floor in the morning. NOT me.




This is one of the reasons that I enjoy living as the only human in my house. Not that I don't ever clean up after the cats, but at least I EXPECT them to be unable to use their paws to wash dishes without REALLY good compensation which I'm not prepared to offer. It's nice to know who's going to step up to the plate and get things done around here. (Except when I don't, of course.)


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Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43449 is a reply to message #43443 ] Sat, 16 July 2011 04:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's a great post, Elizabeth. And I thought the structure in the post itself, like a mirror-flash of illustration on the subject matter, was wonderful. *happy sigh*


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Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43451 is a reply to message #43443 ] Sat, 16 July 2011 05:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wonderful post, Elizabeth. And Robin, I really loved both your answers on the original interview.


Smooshes!
Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43453 is a reply to message #43443 ] Sat, 16 July 2011 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So glad y'all enjoyed it. Thanks.

We had a spattery shower before dawn this morning; birds are ecstatic. Wasn't a rescue rain, but definitely a pleasant surprise. And now--to prepare to make brunch for the party (and rouse Someone #2 to get with the kitchen floor as soon as I've moved the chairs to the hall.)


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Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43455 is a reply to message #43453 ] Sat, 16 July 2011 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Party? What party? And RAIN???? I'm on my way to gate-crash!

Thanks for the delightful, unpompous guest post.
Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43456 is a reply to message #43443 ] Sat, 16 July 2011 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

At the end, the once lumpy and awkward caterpillar in the confining chrysalis breaks out, and has that triumph…but is so changed that it’s rare for an epic hero to go home and live a quiet life–sit by the fire, grow a few vegetables, settle down with the family, bore the grandchildren with familiar stories.


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The very world they saved was not the same world after being saved


Thank you for pointing this out so eloquently.

This also touches on something Tolkien must have felt himself when he returned from the war, his experiences (even though they were shared with most of the young men of his generation) set him apart from other people. He wrote a poem called "The sea bell", where the loneliness of having experienced extraordinary things seem to shine through, especially in the last lines:
"Never will my ear that bell hear
never my feet that shore tread,
never again, as in sad lane,
in blind alley and in long street
ragged I walk. To myself I talk;
for still they speak not, men that I meet."

I think it reflects something that is part of the human condition (to use some big words), some of us will have experiences that sets us apart from our contemporaries, experiences that makes flowing with the ordinary social life difficult. And sometimes we need the epic fantasy to point this out to us, books that look like escapism, but are in reality teaching us (the most) valuable lessons about ourselves and our reactions to the world that surrounds us.
Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43466 is a reply to message #43443 ] Sat, 16 July 2011 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow. I just wanted to say that that was beautiful.
Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43469 is a reply to message #43443 ] Sat, 16 July 2011 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is sometimes more truth in fiction.
Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43471 is a reply to message #43447 ] Sun, 17 July 2011 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EMoon wrote on Fri, 15 July 2011 23:54


What I say NOW is that half the calories in bacon must end up on the stove as grease to be cleaned off. Someone else fried bacon tonight while I was in another room. Two someones else ATE the bacon, all of it. Guess who cleaned the grease off the stove. And everything on the stove. And on the counter next to the stove.

I'm going to bed. One of the someones else has already been told off to do the kitchen floor in the morning. NOT me.




It's not really a bad thing that the someone else in my house doesn't cook, because *cursory* would be a generous description of the resulting clean-up and it would have to be done over again by me. To the accompaniment of a lot of MUTTERING.





"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43511 is a reply to message #43455 ] Sun, 17 July 2011 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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abigailmm: Husband's 66th birthday, a brunch party because all agreed it was too hot to come up midday or later (this decided early in week.) Small because too hot to have it outside and thus limited to number of people who could eat comfortably in the kitchen. (We have more at Thanksgiving, using the other house, but the AC hasn't been on over there.) I did scrambled eggs for those who wanted them (5/7), had cold cuts and cheese for sandwiches for all, and a Baskin-Robbins ice-cream-cake for dessert (brought up by two of the guests.)

The rain was 0.2 inches (welcome, not sufficient--not even a rescue rain) and we loved every drop as it fell.


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Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43517 is a reply to message #43511 ] Sun, 17 July 2011 23:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds lovely. He's no doubt had nice garden parties in the past, NOT THIS YEAR. I read accounts of hellhoundhurtlesoaking downpours with envy rather than sympathy, I admit. I want to go out and emulate Gene Kelly.
Re: Epic Fantasy - Guest Post by Elizabeth Moon [message #43570 is a reply to message #43443 ] Mon, 18 July 2011 22:17 Go to previous message
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Lots to chew on in that post. Thank you.

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