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Another Day Bites the Big One [message #34584] Tue, 28 September 2010 18:39 Go to next message
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Another Day Bites the Big One
Re: Another Day Bites the Big One [message #34586 is a reply to message #34584 ] Tue, 28 September 2010 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A great deal of sympathy for another bad day.

Too many of those going around.


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Re: Another Day Bites the Big One [message #34592 is a reply to message #34584 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 01:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sympathy for the bad day. No one should have to deal with computer issues and builder issues at the same time. I hope things get better soon.



"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
Re: Another Day Bites the Big One [message #34593 is a reply to message #34584 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like the look of the Page99 test, very canny. I shall try that with some volumes from the tottering piles to hand and then try to think backwards. Smile

Quote:

Questions are very, very useful crutches to prop up a tottering brain

Yes, they are, aren't they. I wonder what it is in the human brain and memory that allows 'stuff' to be produced in response to a question even though one wasn't aware that it was still hiding in there somewhere.

Many congratulations on successfully ringing Kent, particularly given all the aggro that the ME is giving you at the moment. Smile


"Never let a computer know you're in a hurry."
Re: Another Day Bites the Big One [message #34597 is a reply to message #34584 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like the sound of that page-99 test. I just did it with Pegasus, and yes, it passes admirably! (Did I doubt for even a second that it would?) It shows both Sylvi's and Ebon's characters, it has a hint of the main plot - if I had read that one page when deciding whether to buy the book, it would have convinced me to buy it! I think I'll have to change my book-browsing process...


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Re: Another Day Bites the Big One [message #34598 is a reply to message #34584 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I sat down to read this without my glasses (which like yours are, I think, made up wrong) and saw "Another Dog Bites the Big One." I thought one of your boys had been bitten! Though I am sorry about your crappy day, I'm glad to know the hellhounds are okay. (And, I wondered which of them would be The Big One!)
Re: Another Day Bites the Big One [message #34599 is a reply to message #34584 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WaayHaay, well done on the Kent. Especially in view of the ME being a beast, as well as all the other aggravations.


Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.
Re: Another Day Bites the Big One [message #34601 is a reply to message #34584 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry to hear about the continuing computer woes, the ME being ME-ish, and the nonresponsive builders. Hopefully by the time this reply goes up, some or all of these issues will have positively and happily resolved themselves, at least temporarily. (Fingers crossed.)

I was kindofsortofmaybe hoping that you might consider adding ROSES to your list of upcoming blogfodder-to-fall-back-on? I noticed that "Roses" is no longer on your Tags list, though, so maybe roses aren't a subject in and of themselves anymore.

[Updated on: Wed, 29 September 2010 13:37]

Re: Another Day Bites the Big One [message #34609 is a reply to message #34601 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmm? It ought to be. That's Wordpress getting above its station. I was just thinking that I never did a Peter's Roses this year. And you NEED roses when they AREN'T flowering. . . .
Re: Another Day Bites the Big One [message #34620 is a reply to message #34609 ] Thu, 30 September 2010 01:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And you NEED roses when they AREN'T flowering. . . .

YES. This. And sometimes even when they ARE, at least mentions of other people's roses flowering, because yours are sulking at the weather and forming lovely buds and then rotting away before they can fully open...

*sigh* Yes, it was not a great spring for roses in my part of the world. I hope your roses (and Peter's roses) had a better year. And I'm glad (?) to hear that it's just Wordpress being persnickety, and not that I tripped into some alternate universe where roses have become déclassé. Wink
Re: Another Day Bites the Big One/ME [message #34634 is a reply to message #34584 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hope this is of use to some of you. Rather than give more of you than are interested an entire article about this study on Fibromyalgia (which I think is the same as Robin's ME), here's a teaser to it.

Marina
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http://snapl.stanford.edu/research/ldn.html
Low-Dose Naltrexone reduces the symptoms of Fibromyalgia

Naltrexone is also called Revia by its manufacturer, DuPont Pharma.

Fibromyalgia Symptoms are reduced by low-dose naltrexone: A pilot study.
Pain Medicine (2009)
Jarred W. Younger and Sean C. Mackey

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http://snapl.stanford.edu/research/currentstudies.htm This page offers information on current research studies by Stanford Systems Neuroscience and Pain Lab
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The entire post I made to LiveJournal can be found here, in one of my few public postings: http://saffronrose.livejournal.com/103718.html


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Re: Another Day Bites the Big One/ME [message #34639 is a reply to message #34634 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ME is also called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome in the US; not quite the same as fibromyalgia, as I understand it. But certainly there are similarities!


"The time is always right to do what's right."--MLK Jr.
Re: Another Day Bites the Big One/ME [message #34641 is a reply to message #34639 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you! I can't keep them straight because to many folk I know have one or the other--and then there's multiple chemical senstivities, which one of my friends has so badly that she has to wear a special mask when she goes out, and sometimes looses so many spoons to dealing with it that she can only collapse for several hours. She can't go out in large crowds, such as a festival, a concert, or a convention/conference, because too many people will be wearing heavy scents, or there will be remains of cleaning chemicals...you get the picture.

One of my other friends who has MCS and CFIDS, says:
You might want to let people know that they might want to check out Nimodipine--it reportedly helps with the brain fog of CFIDS.

I think Robin gets the brain fog--I just can't tell when she's OT functioning from anything but her telling us!


A. Marina Fournier
❦If you want a golden rule that will fit everything, this is it: Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful or believe to be beautiful ❧ William Morris❦
Re: Another Day Bites the Big One/ME [message #34642 is a reply to message #34639 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nobody's come up with exact diagnostic boundaries--*I* think because they don't exist; all this stuff is a SPECTRUM and clearly to do with certain stresses and stressors that some of our bodies are (over)sensitive to. I was diagnosed and consider myself to have ME rather than fibro mainly because my muscle-ache levels are comparatively low. I have the exhaustion, the brain fog and the multi-multi-multi-multi sensitivities. This last includes to just about every doctor/pharmaceutical drug I've ever been given--this is on my mind again today because DESPITE the craziness of yesterday I shouldn't be quite as wiped out and sick today as I am, and *that* is almost certainly either the anaesthetic or the anti-bacterial mouthwash. So I'll be passing on the naltrexone, but thanks and good luck to you and anyone whom it works well for.
Re: Another Day Bites the Big One/ME [message #34651 is a reply to message #34642 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I too think ME and fibromyalgia are all part of the same spectrum. The good news is that no one dies of them, they don't necessarily progress and get worse with time, and since there is no actual inflammation going on, they don't do a lot of collateral damage to your body. The bad news is that no one knows what causes them, they don't spontaneously get better on their own, and there's no cure.

More people around here seem to have heard of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome than fibro, so my one-sentence explanation is "Fibromyalgia is like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome only with more pain and less fatigue." In my case at least, it's the joints that seem to hurt rather than muscles as such. That, and certain tender spots, most of which are (interestingly enough) located on acupuncture meridians.

(In case anyone else needs a basic explanation: the pain in fibromyalgia is real, you can measure the electrical changes in the nerves. However, the body is reporting pain from areas in which there is actually not any damage going on. No one knows why. There are medications that help -- I'm not badly enough off to need them so far -- but generally no one knows why, either.)

There's also a long list of other things that people with fibro/CFS may also have trouble with (I have something like 13 out of 14): I don't remember all of them, but they include insomnia, irritable bowel, chronic depression, migraines, sensitivity to hot weather, and most amusingly, something called neurally-mediated hypotension, which means you get lightheaded if you have to stand for long periods. (The way it was explained to me, your lower leg nerves send a message to the blood pressure regulating center in your brain, saying "Yo! Brain! There seems to be blood pooling down here, how about turning the blood pressure UP a bit?" And the brain says, "DOWN? Okay, we can turn the blood pressure DOWN...")

(Sorry if this is TMI, it's something I find interesting.)


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Re: Another Day Bites the Big One/ME [message #34666 is a reply to message #34642 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 16:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 09:15

... This last includes to just about every doctor/pharmaceutical drug I've ever been given--this is on my mind again today because DESPITE the craziness of yesterday I shouldn't be quite as wiped out and sick today as I am, and *that* is almost certainly either the anaesthetic or the anti-bacterial mouthwash.

My Mum finds that the anaesthetic always has the biggest effect. She develops symptoms almost like a cold for a day afterward - and definitely the "feeling washed up" scenario. Even for minor procedures. Of course if there is air freshner in the room etc etc then there will be a double-whammy effect!!


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Re: Another Day Bites the Big One/ME [message #34678 is a reply to message #34666 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know it's at least partly the anaesthetic because anaesthetic ALWAYS does this to me, even when it's been a fairly mild dose for a fairly minor filling. But the mouthwash . . . geez. They made me use it yesterday on either side of the actual surgery, and sent me home with more of it, but after I read the SIDE EFFECTS I went promptly back to salt water.
Re: Another Day Bites the Big One/ME [message #34680 is a reply to message #34642 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm sad to hear that you have so many sensitivities to so many drugs. I have two that remain--the other, antibiotics, was true *only* while i was pregnant, and 24 hours after, no allergy. Codeine and Vicodin--vomiting doesn't help my coughing problem, so I retreat to a cup of inexpensive singlemalt while in bed, hoping to sleep and without coughing much.

I'm interested in medical research, but don't have fibro/ME/CFIDS/MCS/constant pain, for which I am thankful. Bipolar, migraines & insomnia is quite enough for me.


A. Marina Fournier
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Re: Another Day Bites the Big One/ME [message #34681 is a reply to message #34651 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"(Sorry if this is TMI, it's something I find interesting.)"

Oh, so do I!


A. Marina Fournier
❦If you want a golden rule that will fit everything, this is it: Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful or believe to be beautiful ❧ William Morris❦
Re: Another Day Bites the Big One/ME [message #34683 is a reply to message #34678 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used goldenseal/feverfew tincture when I had 6 crowns put in. Wish I'd known about it when I had my wisdoms removed 15 years earlier!
It's icky though.


A. Marina Fournier
❦If you want a golden rule that will fit everything, this is it: Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful or believe to be beautiful ❧ William Morris❦
Re: Another Day Bites the Big One/ME [message #34688 is a reply to message #34683 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm allergic to goldenseal. Gah.

But Arnica works a treat. I'm almost *disappointed* that I have almost no swelling and no bruising at all. Smile
Re: Another Day Bites the Big One/ME [message #34689 is a reply to message #34688 ] Fri, 01 October 2010 20:57 Go to previous message
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PS: And I didn't discover *homeopathy* till fifteen years after I had my wisdom teeth out.
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