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Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47744 is a reply to message #47691 ] Fri, 20 January 2012 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh no Sad That is very sad news. It reminds me of the time I had to "break up" with a friend I'd had for a very long time, but the friendship had become toxic and unhealthy. It was the right thing to do, but I still laid in bed and wept many nights after it. Loss is always very difficult, even when it's the healthy choice to make. I'm glad you have other bell activities and other bell options for your future, but I'm sure it won't be quite the same as YOUR bells Sad I'm very sorry you have to be going through this.
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47745 is a reply to message #47691 ] Fri, 20 January 2012 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm so sorry to hear that - not that you did what felt right, but that the tower people brought you to that point. And I still find their response somewhat baffling - they needed money, and you raised money for them, and they said NO? Really? To the money they needed, they said no?
I think perhaps their instruction manual on how to raise funds was slightly faulty.
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47746 is a reply to message #47691 ] Fri, 20 January 2012 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm so sorry it's come to this for you, Robin, but it sounds like it was the right decision for you. Last year I had to resign as president of the board of a non-profit with which I've been associated for a decade, and although it was the only decision I could make for me I still am not sure it was the right decision for the organization. It's not easy. {{hugs and chocolate}}
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47748 is a reply to message #47691 ] Fri, 20 January 2012 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin, I'm so very sorry to hear your bad news! I'm glad to hear you're starting to feel a bit better. I'm definitely part of the "Doodles 2017 or bust" wagon-train! I'm looking forward to pre-ordering my copy of Shadows when the time comes. I'm so glad you are still writing and will continue to happily wait for your next book (which will be true for as many "next books" as we will ever be blessed with).
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47749 is a reply to message #47691 ] Fri, 20 January 2012 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin -

Like so many others I was horrified when I read your blog. How could they NOT accept what had been given in such an open manner? And - hello - you're getting an monetary gift from a world famous author who got this gift by selling her books & autographs to her blog followers - not like she went out & extorted money from people. Sheesh (some very un-Pollyanna-esque comments have been deleted!)

The mind-body connection IS very strong and, as a homoeopath, you have trained yours to be even stronger - a double edged sword right now.

I wish for you roses and puppy-dog kisses (sans drool) and chocolate and champagne and a home tower where they appreciate innovative thinking and people offering help from their own strengths rather than trying to shoehorn everyone into some sameness that limits outcomes (which reminds me of the old definition of insanity as doing the same thing but expecting a different outcome).

And like so many others, I'm on the pre-order list for your next book - however many that happens to be - and count myself lucky to have someone with your talents in this world.

*hugs from SoCal*


"The superior physician treats that which is not yet ill. The inferior physician treats that which is already ill." - Ling Shu Ch. 55
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47751 is a reply to message #47691 ] Fri, 20 January 2012 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So sorry to hear this news! I hope a new way to have a bell ringing "home" opens up to you (or that the N.A. crew comes crawling for forgiveness...), and in the meantime, I hope you feel better!


Libby
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47752 is a reply to message #47691 ] Fri, 20 January 2012 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, my dear friend...what sadness! My heart weeps for you at the loss of your bells to human blindness and rigidity. Sad I am so, so, so very sorry.

{{HUGS}} from KC.
JM
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47754 is a reply to message #47691 ] Fri, 20 January 2012 15:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lots of HUGS, CHOCOLATE and HELLHOUND CUDDLES heading your way.

You did the right thing.


I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel ~ Blackadder
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47758 is a reply to message #47691 ] Fri, 20 January 2012 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm so sorry to hear this, but I'm so glad I got to participate in the auction. I wish you could have seen my daughter's face when she opened her *signed and doodled* present to offset some of the sadness. I know the point of the auction was supposed to be support for the bells, but for some of us it was... Robin McKinley!
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47761 is a reply to message #47691 ] Fri, 20 January 2012 16:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The next time you hear the local bells I want you to listen carefully. If you think back to how they sounded when you first heard them you should be able to hear a little more tolerance, an improvement in their determination to show up and ring even on a bad day, a greater degree of care for the nurture of new ringers, and a thousand small things that you did right while you were there, a thousand more that you helped others do right, and, just possibly, a thousand beyond that that the people still ringing will be inspired to do right in the future because you were there.

The things you put into those bells are still there and they are the better for it. When you listen, don't listen to the echoes of your parting, listen to the joy, and sweat, and care that you put there and which still rings out.

It is still a joyful noise.
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47762 is a reply to message #47691 ] Fri, 20 January 2012 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow! Ouch. Grrr. This is sad news.
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47789 is a reply to message #47691 ] Sat, 21 January 2012 20:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I love what Aaron said.

Yes, politics rears its ugly head.

I suppose they could have thought that your gift was an opening wedge and would result in, sometime down the road, your throwing your weight around to "make" them do things differently because You Gave Them Lotsa Money. Truth to tell, I've encountered donors like that. (What part of the word "give" did they not understand, I always wonder.)

Of course you would not do that, so: Sigh.

One of my life lessons has been: if other people persist in being stupid after having their stupidity pointed out to them -- then let them.

Hugs, roses, chocolate and doggy snuffles (or however sight hounds express their affection: with cats, it's forehead bumps).


O Chris Laning <claning@igc.org> - Davis, California
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Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47805 is a reply to message #47789 ] Sun, 22 January 2012 16:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Claning wrote:

I suppose they could have thought that your gift was an opening wedge and would result in, sometime down the road, your throwing your weight around to "make" them do things differently because You Gave Them Lotsa Money. Truth to tell, I've encountered donors like that. (What part of the word "give" did they not understand, I always wonder.)

::Blinks::
This had never occurred to me . . . but . . . it would totally fit the personalities involved. This is all, after all, about POWER, and money is POWER. Golly.

By the way, one of the approaches the admin is using to berate me is that by pulling my money in this selfish way (I wanted the six-inch bronze plaque, you know) I am FORCING the rest of band TO MAKE UP MY SHORTFALL. Make up your minds guys, you can't have it both ways. Well, you can't have it EITHER way any more--I quit. You may have noticed . . .
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47809 is a reply to message #47691 ] Sun, 22 January 2012 17:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wait, am I getting this right? First, they didn't want your money - and now, it'a all your fault that they're not getting your money? I'm not sure I'm getting my mind round this properly - but if I get it aright, sadly... I'm not surprised. That's how people like this generally behave.

Also - bronze? Far too modest of you - you should have asked for something better. Wink I'm thinking gold with inlays of diamond - in the form of hellhounds and/or roses maybe? Wink


Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean, like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47811 is a reply to message #47809 ] Sun, 22 January 2012 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think there may be a certain amount of good cop/bad cop/poisonous evil alien cop from another reality going on. Smile But yeah.

Gilt anyway. Smile
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47818 is a reply to message #47709 ] Sun, 22 January 2012 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh dear sweet ghods. I am so sorry. And yeah, that response to you is a very obvious ChangeBackNow! message.

Sometimes I do not like people. (Have been through this sort of thing.) Much sympathy. And roses. And G&B. And champagne - the good stuff.

(Sorry for the belated comment; have been having a more-than-usualo CFS-fibro-flare-Thing. Lots of balls get dropped when that happens. *wry*)

katinseattle wrote on Thu, 19 January 2012 19:30

New Arcadia wouldn't accept the money because they disapproved of the way you'd raised it? It sounds like you went street walking for it. I find it difficult to wrap my mind around this concept; it's easier to believe in neutrinos that get there before they started. I guess I'm too much a materialistic American.

My heart is bleeding for you right now. But New Arcadia doesn't deserve you. So there.


Edited to add:

Am joining the "doodles in 2017" crowd, and changing my doodle request, if bells are... problematic now. Bats by themselves are fine. Or hellhounds. Or whatever you feel like doing.



All of that. When I first read your post, I was literally speechless. It just... it makes no *sense*.

--glindanearseattle

[Updated on: Sun, 22 January 2012 21:19]




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Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47820 is a reply to message #47691 ] Mon, 23 January 2012 00:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm sorry. Drama really, really sucks, and it does seem to pop up at some point or another in many, if not most, organizations. I hope you can find a place in one of the other towers that will be more welcoming of you and the funds.
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47822 is a reply to message #47691 ] Mon, 23 January 2012 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would like to echo what everyone else has already said more eloquently than I can. It is a difficult thing to decide to leave a group to which one has committed much time and effort to, but it sounds as though this was the best thing for you.

(I also don't mind that the doodles/books haven't come yet... I'd guessed that it would take some time to get them, and while I'd had hopes they'd come soon (because who wouldn't?), I am content to wait as long as it takes - 2017 or later if necessary Smile I hope that whatever bells end up getting the proceeds from the auction will be suitably grateful Smile )
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47826 is a reply to message #47691 ] Mon, 23 January 2012 05:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The whole thing just does seem baffling. In that horrible-baffling way, not the bemusing "isn't that odd" way. Isn't it bizarre how people can block own best interests, and then remain completely and totally oblivious to how they are getting in their own way? It's like they build a wall in front of their own feet and then complain about how that wall keeps them from doing whatever they want to do.

I admire your strength and wisdom in knowing when you need to just let things go; and I wish you healing as you go through the process of accepting the changes that decision has brought into your life.

In any case, as so many others here have said, you are wonderful and we support you! Keep writing, knitting, singing (when you can again), spending time with people who bring you energy rather than suck it out of you, hurtling hellhounds, reading, eating chocolate and drinking tea, and let the rest of the nonsense be what it is -- nonsense. That you don't need to be involved with.

Sending virtual hugs!
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47837 is a reply to message #47809 ] Mon, 23 January 2012 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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L.R.K. wrote on Sun, 22 January 2012 17:53


Also - bronze? Far too modest of you - you should have asked for something better. Wink I'm thinking gold with inlays of diamond - in the form of hellhounds and/or roses maybe? Wink


Gold hellhounds (with diamond collars) holding crystal roses in their teeth? Oh, and the hellhounds' eyes should be gemstones, too. What color are the boys' eyes, Robin? We need to make sure we get this right. . . .


Smooshes!
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47838 is a reply to message #47691 ] Mon, 23 January 2012 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That is really frelling puzzling and sad. I would not be surprised if it *was* a fear of power shifting that led them to do that; I really can't think of anything objectionable about doodles. Other than them (and the artist) being entirely TOO AWESOME for humanity.

*sends virtual home made brandied cherries* The real ones are going to need to be eaten soon, they've been brandying for nine months.

I am curious though: does the church you rang at have a vicar and a PCC, and if so, do they know anything about this rejected money strangeness?

Because *I* cannot think of a Church of England vicar who would not claw the money out of your hands in five seconds flat for their bell fund or roof fund or whatever. (I'm related to several) Vicars, that is, not bell funds.


Only in silence the word,
only in dark the light,
only in dying life:
bright the hawk's flight
on the empty sky.
—The Creation of Éa,
Ursula K LeGuin
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47841 is a reply to message #47838 ] Mon, 23 January 2012 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lorelibrarian wrote:
I am curious though: does the church you rang at have a vicar and a PCC, and if so, do they know anything about this rejected money strangeness?

Because *I* cannot think of a Church of England vicar who would not claw the money out of your hands in five seconds flat for their bell fund or roof fund or whatever. (I'm related to several) Vicars, that is, not bell funds.


::Shuffles feet modestly::

The admin was frelling NOT going to bury my resignation the way they'd attempted to bury my (attempt at) contribution. I may have copied my letter to quite a few people . . . Smile
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47842 is a reply to message #47841 ] Mon, 23 January 2012 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And THANKS AGAIN to everyone who has commented about this--and for that matter all of you who hissed through your teeth in disbelief even if you didn't wave your hand on the forum. Let me tell you it REALLY, REALLY, REALLY makes a difference to me.

Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47844 is a reply to message #47841 ] Mon, 23 January 2012 17:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do not shuffle your feets! You might put more wear on the all stars.

If hinky stuff is going on in one group that's connected to a church, the vicar and PCC really need to know, and everyone hgetting the letter gets the same level of info, which can cut down on damaging/inaccurate guff.

(Turning down free funding is *very* hinky) It was am amzaing amount of money to raise, and you did it all with yourself (your art) so it wasn't just money, it was time, and love and awesomeness.

Which you probably know, so I should stop babbling and go read Pegasus again. I got a Kindle for Christmas, you were the first living author I looked up on there, btw. Smile


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Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47846 is a reply to message #47841 ] Mon, 23 January 2012 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The admin was frelling NOT going to bury my resignation the way they'd attempted to bury my (attempt at) contribution. I may have copied my letter to quite a few people . . . Smile[/quote]

GOOD FOR YOU!!!

And yes, the Vicar and any other PTB at the church need to know what's going on within the church organization (speaks the pastor's wife).
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47847 is a reply to message #47841 ] Mon, 23 January 2012 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin wrote on Mon, 23 January 2012

::Shuffles feet modestly::

The admin was frelling NOT going to bury my resignation the way they'd attempted to bury my (attempt at) contribution. I may have copied my letter to quite a few people . . . Smile



*peals of laughter* Oh, perfect! This should get... interesting. Smile




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Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47856 is a reply to message #47837 ] Tue, 24 January 2012 01:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jmeadows wrote on Mon, 23 January 2012 10:55

L.R.K. wrote on Sun, 22 January 2012 17:53


Also - bronze? Far too modest of you - you should have asked for something better. Wink I'm thinking gold with inlays of diamond - in the form of hellhounds and/or roses maybe? Wink


Gold hellhounds (with diamond collars) holding crystal roses in their teeth? Oh, and the hellhounds' eyes should be gemstones, too. What color are the boys' eyes, Robin? We need to make sure we get this right. . . .


Many jewelers use sapphires for the eyes. (They don't look blue, just nice and dark.) Some use diamonds, but they give the dogs that unfortunate Little Orphan Annie look . . . The roses, of course, should be rose quartz. Smile



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Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47859 is a reply to message #47847 ] Tue, 24 January 2012 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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. . . But it probably won't, unfortunately. Inertia is very strong, the bell admin has been the bell admin for a long time and is all tangled up with the general church admin . . . and there's no tradition of protest. I think it will be only too easy to discount me--furthermore, I'm an American and I Don't Understand How Things Are Done!!

What I'm hoping is that my public resignation might suggest that one CAN do things this way, and someone else, somewhere down the line, might try it themselves. Which is how traditions get started.
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47860 is a reply to message #47691 ] Tue, 24 January 2012 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So sorry to hear this. Other people express far more eloquently than I ever could what I'd like to be able to say so I can't add anything. But I've been thinking about you and your bells and I wish you health and a peaceful mind.
Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47874 is a reply to message #47841 ] Wed, 25 January 2012 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin wrote on Mon, 23 January 2012 22:22



The admin was frelling NOT going to bury my resignation the way they'd attempted to bury my (attempt at) contribution. I may have copied my letter to quite a few people . . . Smile


Good for you!


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Re: I am not looking forward to writing this post [message #47893 is a reply to message #47691 ] Thu, 26 January 2012 00:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Incomprehensible! Mind boggling! So sad! Others have already said everything that I would have said and more eloquently too. So, I'm just posting a brief note to extend my sympathies and show my support. Hang in there!

[Updated on: Thu, 26 January 2012 00:37]

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Just adding my voice to the general chorus of bafflement. These people are BONKERS! It sounds as though you have made the right decision, and I hope that things get a lot less stressful.
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