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Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45664 is a reply to message #45619 ] Wed, 19 October 2011 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The news that you are still writing is the best news we could ever hear as your fans. As loyal fans we will wait however long it takes for you to put out another book. We understand the need to get a paycheck and greatly respect you. We would always rather wait a longer period to read a book we know you put your heart and soul into than one that was rushed to the printing presses to meet a deadline. Thank you also for taking the time to make this announcement to us, I can imagine it might have had you in knots for awhile.


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Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45665 is a reply to message #45619 ] Wed, 19 October 2011 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That announcement could have been so much worse. So was it like wrestling with a greased octopus underwater while on a limited oxygen supply? That's what it's like when the story fights me.

Hopefully this can be embraced as the whole crisis/opportunity thing. Door closed, window opened. Every tornadic disaster has a silverish lining. Of sorts.

My best thoughts and wishes to you. Hopefully the story council will get their junk together and let you get on with your business of telling stories.


"All their life... had only been the cover and title page, now at last, they were beginning Chapter One of the Great Story." C.S. Lewis
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45666 is a reply to message #45665 ] Wed, 19 October 2011 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bonniebythepeak wrote on Thu, 20 October 2011 08:27

So was it like wrestling with a greased octopus underwater while on a limited oxygen supply?


I've wrestled with a large octopus for real - and trust me, they don't need grease!

(Sorry, I couldn't resist!)

Audrey
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45667 is a reply to message #45619 ] Wed, 19 October 2011 19:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Whew! That wasn’t as bad as what I was expecting from the title. I’m sure any disappointment over the delay will be well offset by the additional volumes.

Sometimes setting a project aside for a time is just what you need. Like when you pick up that half-finished Sunday Times Crossword that stumped you a week back and suddenly you can spot your errors and know all the right answers. Not that a crossword bears the same magnitude as a novel, of course, but you get the idea.

I’m also self-employed, so I share your paycheck pain.
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45668 is a reply to message #45665 ] Wed, 19 October 2011 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bonniebythepeak wrote on Wed, 19 October 2011 17:27

Every tornadic disaster has a silverish lining.


I first read this as silverfish lining! Maybe it was the proximity of the octopus entries...maybe I'm just tired...
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45669 is a reply to message #45643 ] Wed, 19 October 2011 20:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EMoon wrote on Tue, 18 October 2011 20:41


(It wants to be bigger. Lots bigger. It says there's a lot more Story in here and I should unpack it all. I can't. Both my publishers were very firm that I have to finish in the next two books.)


Darn.
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45671 is a reply to message #45619 ] Wed, 19 October 2011 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It’s been so gruesome that I’ve had a few of those dark nights of the soul when I wondered if I was, you know, broken somehow, and couldn’t write. These moments were very, very bad.

That's a very bad place to be. I'm glad you're out of it now.

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Listen: I can’t face PEG right now. Cannot. It needs to relax out of the knots I made of it. I’m going to have to go back to the beginning of PEG II and unpick the strands, thread by thread, and lay them out flat again and try to see what they are this time. I’m going to have to rewrite it ... pretty much as if this last year never happened. (Siiiiiiiiigh.) And first I have to get my breath—and my courage—back. So does poor PEG, I suspect.

I've been in places like this with my own work -- to a less dramatic degree, but I know what you mean. When you pick it up again with fresh eyes, the end result will be better for the hiatus.

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So, I started this new novel. And it actually went, like a novel should. My first drafts are always fairly painful, but they should accumulate, paragraph after paragraph. Like this one seems to be doing.

YESSS! Don't tell us about it! Pour the energy into writing it instead!

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Have I mentioned I’m running out of money? I was supposed to turn PEG II in, oh, last month or so. I need to get paid.

Reality is pesky. I'm against it in this instance. Sad
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45674 is a reply to message #45619 ] Wed, 19 October 2011 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I trust that however long it takes will be just right.


"Winning a war is like winning an earthquake" Jeanette Rankin
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45675 is a reply to message #45619 ] Wed, 19 October 2011 23:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hooray for more books!

For what it's worth, lots and lots of other writers will be scrambling in November to write as much as they can too. So you'll have spiritual company-- if your novel (or are you its human?) cooperates.

Anyone else doing National Novel-Writing Month?
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45678 is a reply to message #45619 ] Thu, 20 October 2011 00:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MORE MCKINLEY BOOKS!!! SQUEEEEE!!!

Okay, so I did sort of guess that PEG II (EBON) would be late (also the very title makes me happy. I love Ebon). Anyway, I can't bring myself to care. I love every single one of your stories and I don't care how long they take. They're almost shockingly different sometimes, too--BLUE SWORD from DRAGONHAVEN from CHALICE from SUNSHINE from OUTLAWS--but I love that. Each one is fascinating and beautiful.

Like everyone else, I'm just thrilled that there will be more books. And when they do come out, I shall BUY THEM ALL.

/CAPS explosion

ETA: Also, a thought: Originally PEGASUS I and II were going to be the duo you didn't want, which could have potentially possibly hopefully not been followed by the trilogy you didn't want...so if this is the trilogy, does that mean you've escaped the duo?

[Updated on: Thu, 20 October 2011 00:27]

Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45680 is a reply to message #45619 ] Thu, 20 October 2011 01:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I will happily read (and buy) whatever you write! I'm glad that you're on speaking terms with your current novel. Perhaps Peg II and III will have fought matters out on their own by the time you work on them again.

(Sends virtual loaf of homemade bread, complete with spread of choice.)
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45684 is a reply to message #45619 ] Thu, 20 October 2011 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Glad to hear that people are being supportive (they should be! Hey you write us books, and you write us funny blog posts DAILY). Should they not be, can I suggest you point them to this note on why writers are not slaves to their readers alone (at the expense of their lives, sanity, and continuing creativity)?

http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.htm l

Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45688 is a reply to message #45619 ] Thu, 20 October 2011 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been sort of mulling over how best to put my feelings on this...

I love* pound cake. My sister makes, quite possibly, the best pound cake in the world. She doesn't do it often (which is probably good for all of our waistlines) because pound cake takes a surprising amount of time to do right**. But I don't just buy pound cake from the grocery store because it's just not the same thing at all.

We'll happily wait for your pound cake, Robin, and what you've basically told us is that we get THREE pound cakes to look forward to.

Although I hate that you've had to go through the emotional turmoil you've described to get there, I have a hard time viewing this as anything but good news. (Though all this talk of pound cake makes me think maybe I need to give my sister a call...)

* If you assume "love" to mean "adore, covet, WANT, WANT, WANT, etc."

** LOTS of mixing, long baking time, enough cooling time that it doesn't just fall to pieces rather than allowing itself to be sliced up -- though sometimes, admittedly, if it's not been made for a special occasion we skip that last step.
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45690 is a reply to message #45619 ] Thu, 20 October 2011 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What would be upsetting to read is that you had just discovered that you had an overwhelming calling to sell shoelaces on the street corner!
More books of any kind - yeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45695 is a reply to message #45619 ] Thu, 20 October 2011 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's okay. We can wait. Besides it give me time to read PEG I. I'm swamped with reading for my college classes, so I haven't been reading as much as I like for fun. I'm sure it will be worth the wait...however long the wait is. Smile
*sends homemade brownies*


Am I crazy if listen to the voices in my little world? :D
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45696 is a reply to message #45619 ] Thu, 20 October 2011 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Adding my voice to the list of those not really that disappointed.

I read PEGASUS and heaved a sigh at the end, yes. Didn't ruin my enjoyment of the story. I'm quite used to waiting for sequels. A large number of my favorite authors write trilogies (or longer). What it means is that I reread the first one right as the second comes out and enjoy it all over again and then get more! And then I wait again for the third one, get two reread enjoyments and then more! And between publications, life goes on.

I will happily read EBON whenever it comes out, and the third book whenever it comes out, and when the book that snuck up on you comes out I will happily read that. Your books are an automatic buy for me even when I know nothing about them. I am not going to argue or feel disappointed about more of them on the horizon.
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45697 is a reply to message #45619 ] Thu, 20 October 2011 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Whoa. That sounds like a whole lot of stress. I'm happy you figured out why Pegasus was giving you such a hard time!

And we find out that we have to wait a little while, but get 3 books instead of 1 on the way? That's great!

Best wishes with the super-fast new novel!


Libby
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45698 is a reply to message #45619 ] Thu, 20 October 2011 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One more voice to the chorus of "Do whatever you need to do!, we'll wait patiently and happily!" After all, I find waiting for a book just makes it all the sweeter when it's finally released. I have plenty of books to read in the meantime. Sunshine, for one, is clamoring for its yearly re-read...
And I am incredibly interested to hear of a new novel in the works! Your imagination has provided all of us with such rich and intriguing landscapes, I can't wait to find out more about it Smile


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Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45709 is a reply to message #45663 ] Thu, 20 October 2011 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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{hugs} Robin,
New book in the works & happier hellgoddess? Wonderful! I have to say, just seeing the "Pegasus II coming 2012!" banner on the blog made me* feel pressured - can't even imagine how you felt!
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45713 is a reply to message #45619 ] Thu, 20 October 2011 22:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't post very often but it really seems as if you might appreciate a little reassurance. So, let me add my own "There, there. It's ok." to the chorus along with a virtual pat on the back. Life happens and we miss deadlines sometimes. (I miss lots of them!) Just try to be be like Douglas Adams and enjoy the whooshing sound as they pass by.

BTW, I write for a living too so I can feel your pain. I've had my own moments where I slowly and painfully come to the realization that something is not harmonizing and I should just bite the bullet and start over from scratch. There's always that period of denial where I say, "No, no! I can make this work! I don't want to start all over again. Waaahhh!" But, even though starting over will take more time, the writing is always better for it in the long run.

Do what you need to do. And good luck. And don't worry so much about what the rest of us might think! Besides I'm surprised you were worried about our reaction. It seems like you have a nice bunch here. I haven't seen one negative comment yet.

And, I'm sending the very best vibes to Peter for his good health. THAT, and your mental sanity(!) are what's really important!

[Case of Green and Blacks on way Federal Express]

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Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45714 is a reply to message #45647 ] Fri, 21 October 2011 02:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Diane in MN wrote on Wed, 19 October 2011 01:35

Oh, Robin--not a trilogy, a three-volume novel, right? Smile


I like this; kind of like LOTR. It's not 3 separate books, it's one book published in 3 separate pieces.

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Have I mentioned I’m running out of money? I was supposed to turn PEG II in, oh, last month or so. I need to get paid.


Hmm. Perhaps it's time for more Robin McKinley books as Christmas presents for my friends. I know they don't all have all of them....

In the meantime, sending more chocolate and wonderful baked goods (because the baked goods are my favorite....). Good luck with NOT-PEGASUS!


"Oh good! My dog found the chainsaw!"

-- Lilo ("Lilo and Stitch")
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45715 is a reply to message #45643 ] Fri, 21 October 2011 02:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EMoon wrote on Tue, 18 October 2011 23:41



If I can get past the huge spiky misbegotten boulder of a stumbling block that my book has put in my way the last week, I'll try to help by writing some more guest posts for the blog. (It wants to be bigger. Lots bigger. It says there's a lot more Story in here and I should unpack it all. I can't. Both my publishers were very firm that I have to finish in the next two books. Of course, both those editors are now gone, and I don't have new editors yet, but the chances in this market of cajoling these unknown persons to let me add another couple of volumes is...below 0.00001%.)


I'm sorry to hear that. I've been loving the series a lot so far, and wish/hope that the market will behave in such a way as to allow the story to be told all the way through however it needs to come out. Either way, though, we'll still be excited to get to read it.


"Oh good! My dog found the chainsaw!"

-- Lilo ("Lilo and Stitch")
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45716 is a reply to message #45714 ] Fri, 21 October 2011 02:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmm. Perhaps it's time for more Robin McKinley books as Christmas presents for my friends. I know they don't all have all of them....


What a great idea, danceswithpahis! I wonder if we could really set this thing up properly. I've got a niece who needs to own Beauty and The Blue Sword. What do you think?


"All their life... had only been the cover and title page, now at last, they were beginning Chapter One of the Great Story." C.S. Lewis
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45717 is a reply to message #45619 ] Fri, 21 October 2011 02:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Christmas presents, yes. Plus, my copy of Beauty is being held together by green tape, and I lent Blue Sword out a while ago and haven't gotten it back. And I can kill two birds with one stone and go support my local independent bookstore!


It was the only lullaby she would ever sing, and it was sung in Hell. --Laini Taylor
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45720 is a reply to message #45715 ] Fri, 21 October 2011 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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danceswithpahis wrote on Fri, 21 October 2011 08:11

EMoon wrote on Tue, 18 October 2011 23:41



If I can get past the huge spiky misbegotten boulder of a stumbling block that my book has put in my way the last week, I'll try to help by writing some more guest posts for the blog. (It wants to be bigger. Lots bigger. It says there's a lot more Story in here and I should unpack it all. I can't. Both my publishers were very firm that I have to finish in the next two books. Of course, both those editors are now gone, and I don't have new editors yet, but the chances in this market of cajoling these unknown persons to let me add another couple of volumes is...below 0.00001%.)


I'm sorry to hear that. I've been loving the series a lot so far, and wish/hope that the market will behave in such a way as to allow the story to be told all the way through however it needs to come out. Either way, though, we'll still be excited to get to read it.



Reminds me a little of what happened to Babylon 5 - it looked as if it was going to be axed after the fourth season, so JMS crammed as much story as he could into seasson four, to give fans closure, while leaving a little in case of a possible fifth season. And then there was a fifth season.

EMoon - I hope you get your "fifth season" too - maybe your new editors will be charming understanding people willing to take a chance - "Hope is all we have." Smile


Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean, like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45729 is a reply to message #45666 ] Fri, 21 October 2011 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've wrestled with a large octopus for real - and trust me, they don't need grease!


Really?? What was it like? And um... why?


"All their life... had only been the cover and title page, now at last, they were beginning Chapter One of the Great Story." C.S. Lewis
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bonniebythepeak wrote on Fri, 21 October 2011 02:15

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Hmm. Perhaps it's time for more Robin McKinley books as Christmas presents for my friends. I know they don't all have all of them....


What a great idea, danceswithpahis! I wonder if we could really set this thing up properly. I've got a niece who needs to own Beauty and The Blue Sword. What do you think?


I am not good at organizing things, but I think it would be great to try and do a McKinley blitz for Christmas. I really will have to be choosy, though, since most of my friends who are into Robin McKinley (or seem like likely suspects) have already received books from me in the past.


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Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45762 is a reply to message #45729 ] Sat, 22 October 2011 17:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bonniebythepeak wrote on Sat, 22 October 2011 02:20

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I've wrestled with a large octopus for real - and trust me, they don't need grease!


Really?? What was it like? And um... why?


It's amazing, actually. The octopus is very strong and muscular, but has a very delicate, sensuous touch with its suckers and the tips of the tentacles.

Why? I was leading an educational trip and was attempting to pull the octopus a little out of the water so everyone could see it clearly. The octopus co-operated for a little while and then spotted a large lobster, at which point it slithered out of my grip and went after it. The lobster saw it and leapt out of the water from rockpool to rockpool, with the octopus slithering rapidly after it, through air and all. That lobster was *flying* through the air in its desperate and futile attempt to escape!

I've had a second encounter where an octopus caught me. I was standing in water to mid-calf, in seagrass, and the octopus wrapped himself around my foot, folded my sock over and undid my shoelace. He explored my foot very delicately and I didn't realise until later what he had done! Alas, I made preparations to photograph him but he took off just before I was ready so I didn't get a good picture.

I later found out that that particular octopus was rather notorious - a few weeks earlier a woman had been swimming in the same rock pool and came out screaming hysterically with the octopus wrapped around her neck!

The octopus had a body about the size of a basketball (well, a little smaller), with arms about a metre long and as thick as my wrist near the body. I don't think I would have wanted to wear him as a scarf, either - he probably weighed 10 kilos or so.

Octopuses do regularly catch marine biologists, but most of them (biologists) panic and run away, rather than just leave the octopus alone. When I was grabbed I shouted to everyone, "I've got a gorgeous big octopus!". Alas, others don't take that view.

Audrey
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Wow - wow - wow!

Ok, so I'm impressed. And I'll probably dream about octopuses tonight. I can't get the image of an octopus around a woman's neck out of my head.

Kudos for a nifty on-your-feet sort of reaction.


"All their life... had only been the cover and title page, now at last, they were beginning Chapter One of the Great Story." C.S. Lewis
Re: The announcement I didn't want to hear either [message #45848 is a reply to message #45842 ] Thu, 27 October 2011 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Speaking of Octopuses (Octopi?): http://www.orionmagazine.org/index.php/articles/article/6474


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Thanks for the link, Melissa!

This is why I don't eat octopus sushi (and chide those who do.) I worked with octopi and cuttlefish for several years when I was volunteering at our zoo, and it seemed patently obvious to me that they were extremely intelligent and emotionally sensitive animals. My encounters with our octopi were some of my most memorable at the zoo--and I encountered a lot of different critters!


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You're welcome!

I ate octopus once, before I learned that they have brains. Like eating rubber bands. Bleah.


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This is a really interesting article, Melissa, thanks!



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You're welcome!


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I was scared when I read the blog title!

When I finished the blog I was MUCH happier (and I hope that you are too!). What's not to like - THREE books?! Smile

Be well. If if helps, *WE* think that you are a fabulous author and love your works.

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