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Epic [message #50361] Mon, 18 June 2012 21:28 Go to next message
Robin  is currently offline Robin
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Re: Epic [message #50363 is a reply to message #50361 ] Mon, 18 June 2012 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sympathies for your transport problem, the failure of mechanics to call back, the lack of a loo at Muddlehampton's venue (there aren't zoning laws that require a loo in any building open to public use?)...but very glad that ringing at Curlyewe was enjoyable.

I do not understand why public transport planners think no one goes anywhere after getting home from work. It's not like roads are empty after 5:30 or 7 of whatever. On the contrary, as the hours get later, more and more drunks are out there crashing into power poles and one another. Our town has zero public transport, but the nearest real city, which has a fair cultural life downtown and suburbs out to the hinterlands (which are rapidly turning the hinterlands into a desert of identical boxes and wide streets) offers no way to get to and from the city except at rush hour. Every night in the city there are plays, concerts, movies, and so on. I would much rather take the commuter train (or even a bus) from the distal terminal (a little less than half-way from the city to here) into downtown midday, meet a friend for lunch, do some shopping, then go on to choir practice, and then take public transport from downtown back out to the back out after. It would save me, round-trip, around fifty miles of driving. But no.

And speaking of no hope, I'm going to wimp out of the choral concert this Saturday, as it involves another long, long rehearsal Wednesday night and a rehearsal Saturday morning--and I came home wiped out last Saturday just from the rehearsal. And there are Edits which are going slowly...I have no time to practice the difficult bits (of which there are many, with the music chosen.) Enough guilt is riding me already about the difficulty I'm having with the edits. (Speaking of which...I did take time off to read the Paris Review interview with Fran Lebowitz, who blithely announces she's not edited because she won't put up with it. How very nice for her.)

And now, back to work.


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Re: Epic [message #50364 is a reply to message #50361 ] Mon, 18 June 2012 22:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Much sympathy for the transportation issues.

But yes... being on the top floor of double decker busses is so fun, isn't it? UC Davis, where I attended university, has several vintage double-decker London busses which run on select bus lines around the town and university (mostly lines that don't involve going under bridges that are too short for them). I used to live on one of the privileged lines, and always sat up top. It really was very cool to see into people's yards - there is one huge one that seemed to have quite a number of roses, among other things. Whenever possible, I sat up top, and yes, the front was more fun. Smile
Re: Epic [message #50365 is a reply to message #50363 ] Mon, 18 June 2012 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EMoon wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 18:54


I do not understand why public transport planners think no one goes anywhere after getting home from work. It's not like roads are empty after 5:30 or 7 of whatever.


This is an often mysterious piece of planning. Also, the other thing that I find difficult to deal with from time to time is the fact that many businesses are open only for business hours (e..g, 9-12, close for lunch, then open 1-6) - and these would be the hours everyone is at work. THis is reasonable for the people who work at the businesses in question, but it does make it rather more difficult to, say, go to the bank or stand in line at the insurance office when one also works during those times...
Re: Epic [message #50366 is a reply to message #50361 ] Mon, 18 June 2012 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The bus system in my current town is just about as convoluted (but there *are* no bus systems in the surrounding towns, so at least there aren't two sets to get mixed up with each other.) And they have the same misguided idea that no one wants to go anywhere after 7 pm. I take the bus to school most days to save on gas and because I hate trying to park at school (and it is an EXCELLENT source of knitting time!) but on the nights I have to be there later than 7 (Wednesdays for church choir, and any time there is a concert or a recital), I'm forced to take the car. Which is frustrating.

I am glad you managed to find Nadia despite the lack of clear maps! And good for Niall for providing you with food Smile
Re: Epic [message #50367 is a reply to message #50361 ] Tue, 19 June 2012 01:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When I lived outside Seattle, I used buses all the time, since the system was county-wide and not restricted to commuter service in outlying areas. I've lived outside the Twin Cities for twenty years and bus service has only started being visible in my area in the last couple of them, and it's commuter service only out here in the suburbs. And the schedules are, of course, a Piece of Work in the usual unhelpful manner. I have to acknowledge, though, that getting buses to run outside of commuter hours isn't going to happen any time soon unless demand really increases, and then only if people are willing to pay for it, possibly with higher fares and probably with higher taxes. Public transportation, alas, is not self-supporting even when heavily used.



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Re: Epic [message #50368 is a reply to message #50361 ] Tue, 19 June 2012 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One of the Josephine Tey novels- The Franchise Affair- relies on double-decker buses for a key plot point. Be warned, however, it's Tey at her most classist.
Re: Epic [message #50370 is a reply to message #50361 ] Tue, 19 June 2012 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lots of sympathy for the buses! I have a great ability to make transportation not work even when everything is running properly - I went to see a show with a friend recently, and navigated the train fine... but then turned the six-minute walk to the theater into a 45 minute walk. That was also one of three epic transportation adventures within a couple of weeks... it takes talent, I'm telling you. TALENT.
Re: Epic [message #50395 is a reply to message #50370 ] Thu, 21 June 2012 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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maggie wrote on Tue, 19 June 2012 19:56

Lots of sympathy for the buses! I have a great ability to make transportation not work even when everything is running properly - I went to see a show with a friend recently, and navigated the train fine... but then turned the six-minute walk to the theater into a 45 minute walk. That was also one of three epic transportation adventures within a couple of weeks... it takes talent, I'm telling you. TALENT.


Ugh, sympathy to you about the 'but it's a straight line, how could you have gotten lost' walk to the theatre! My partner didn't believe me when I said I had a negative sense of direction until I got lost walking home from the store that I had walked to and was furthermore only about 6 blocks from our house. I now always make sure I have comfy shoes on.

I wonder if it's not an amount of usage issue with public transportation. There are relatively few busses around here (Berks.) and those there are are almost always pretty much empty. The trains, however, run very frequently during commuter hours (like every 20 minutes from London) and pretty freaking often during all the other hours. The people who do those websites figure that nobody will be looking anyway, so why should they bother getting the information right?

(I don't condone that attitude, but it does seem... rather humanly failing, I think.)

Huzzah for successful navigation of busses with changes and stuff! That'll show 'em!!
Re: Epic [message #50463 is a reply to message #50361 ] Mon, 25 June 2012 04:47 Go to previous message
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Bit rushed and trying to catch up but ...

The KEY the BEST and as far as I'm concerned the ONLY WORTHWHILE place to look up any public transport websites is called TransportDirect (maybe with a hyphen?) it just works.
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