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Forum Knitting [message #49862] Fri, 18 May 2012 22:25 Go to next message
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Re: Forum Knitting [message #49863 is a reply to message #49862 ] Fri, 18 May 2012 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Knitting this week has been a mix of disaster (ripped a sock cuff back to the yarn. GRUMP) and success (turning heels of a different pair of socks went smoothly) and near disaster following success (this making up stuff as I go along is...tricky.) Directions--when I try them--meant for other people's feet don't necessarily work on mine. It's a good thing I try the socks on every other row at least, because they were about to be uncomfortably tight. Seriously uncomfortably tight. I think--hope--what I will make them OK, but I've written down what not to do next time, to ensure no similar problem.

I am using yarn, but I'm buying yarn faster than I'm using it--apparently the self-control button has decided that yarn is like certain staples in the kitchen...if you're using something regularly, you'll barely keep up if you buy a little more than you think you're using. You need more than you think you need. Yet I'm not knitting noticeably faster (not and keep working on the books.)

I'm over (no, wait...I think maybe I'm over for now) the impulse buying of gorgeous yarns with no plan other than "That's STUNNING! Must HAVE!" But the buying of things I immediately know what to do with...when I have time...is still a tough one to resist. Even the too-big floppy socks--full of mistakes and less than beautiful--feel so much better than store-bought socks that I'm frantic to have enough (that fit a little better) to wear all the time. Happy feet, o happy feet. (Sorry, feet, you get to be happy just twice a week until the hands upstairs knit more socks.)

I did finally get my yarns organized, into plastic bags, listed in the computer, and out of sight. But that only turned up the desire to buy more ("Can't...see....yarn. Must...need...more...yarn...") The work bags (one project per bag, with its needles) let me see yarn--but that's not stash, because it's on the needles, right? It doesn't count as yarn. It counts as "yarn about to be used up and thus not available." (The "about to be" part is...um...virtual reality. I'm a slow knitter.)

At least it's now hot enough that the hand-washed wool stuff dries outside in less than a day. Which could mean the clumsy too-big first pair could be worn every day, except then they'd wear out before I got enough socks made.


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Re: Forum Knitting [message #49864 is a reply to message #49863 ] Fri, 18 May 2012 23:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EMoon wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 23:03

Even the too-big floppy socks--full of mistakes and less than beautiful--feel so much better than store-bought socks that I'm frantic to have enough (that fit a little better) to wear all the time. Happy feet, o happy feet.

It's so true! I didn't realize how poorly store-bought socks fit my feet until I started knitting my own socks. And wool! It breathes! It keeps your feet toasty without making them sweaty! (Well, at least until the temperature gets hot enough that I'm wearing sandals anyway.)


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Re: Forum Knitting [message #49866 is a reply to message #49862 ] Fri, 18 May 2012 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But the point is that my standard inability to follow directions is manifesting itself early in my knitting career.

One of my good knitting friends is *exactly* like this. She will get a pattern and use it as a suggestion, kind of sort of. And gauge swatches? Forget about it. She refuses to admit the possibility. She turns out some nice stuff, too.

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some gorgeous streaky dark russet-scarlet-orange wool


That sounds so pretty!

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I can’t find where to click on the colinette pages to find the practical details.


Details. http://www.colinette.com/categories/yarns/zanziba/





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Re: Forum Knitting [message #49870 is a reply to message #49862 ] Sat, 19 May 2012 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the yarn I want to use for my First Cardigan? Of course I don’t have enough. Of course. But—speaking of (not) following directions—I want it about eight inches shorter than the pattern calls for . . . so I still don’t really know if I have enough or not.

If you make a 4 x 4 inch/10 cm x 10 cm gauge swatch, then rip it out and measure how much yarn you used, you can figure how much you would save by making your sweater 8 inches shorter. Tedious, but less tedious than running out of yarn. Or you might look for a similar but shorter cardigan pattern and see how much yardage the shorter one calls for, as a guesstimate. Eight inches around a sweater is quite a lot of fabric, so you may well come out right with your chosen yarn.



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Re: Forum Knitting [message #49872 is a reply to message #49870 ] Sat, 19 May 2012 02:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Diane in MN wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 00:53

If you make a 4 x 4 inch/10 cm x 10 cm gauge swatch, then rip it out and measure how much yarn you used, you can figure how much you would save by making your sweater 8 inches shorter. Tedious, but less tedious than running out of yarn. Or you might look for a similar but shorter cardigan pattern and see how much yardage the shorter one calls for, as a guesstimate. Eight inches around a sweater is quite a lot of fabric, so you may well come out right with your chosen yarn.


Gauge is awesome when it works. However--a Cautionary Tale--I have managed to get at least THREE different gauges on one project. It's an argyle vest for my fiance, and so far I've only worked on the back. It's one color and not too argyle-y yet, so you'd think it would be that hard. But I tried knitting with the recommended (tiny) needle sizes and my gauge was too big--I didn't have enough stitches to the 4", or whatever it was. So I tried again on smaller needles and that worked okay. Until partway through, when my knitting must have inexplicably tightened, because it started growing smaller at the top. ARGH.

The moral of the story: Gauge is a cruel, cruel mistress. But still worth trying. At least in this case I know I CAN attain the correct gauge with the needles I'm (still, very carefully) using.
Re: Forum Knitting [message #49873 is a reply to message #49862 ] Sat, 19 May 2012 05:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And even if you decide to get serious, why should you have to Photostat the frelling pattern just because the blasted book won’t lie flat?

Ah no, you photocopy your pattern so that you have it to carry around with you in your knitting bag without getting crumpled or sat on or rained on.... I do put mine in a plastic envelope, but it's still a photocopy because many of my patterns are 30 years old and getting fragile. Plus you can write all over a photocopy, mark up the size you're knitting (and not get confused if you then knit one in a different size for someone else), and if you lose it, you still have the original at home to re-copy!

I am one of those who seldom makes a tension square, but I have been knitting for 50 years and know what my tension is! Although having said that I'm going to have to do a few for my next project which is an entrelac (sock top) sweater for my grandson. If it was for his mother or me I wouldn't bother - I know what size an adult one comes out - but I've never done one for a child before so need to know what size oblongs would be optimum....


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Re: Forum Knitting [message #49874 is a reply to message #49862 ] Sat, 19 May 2012 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But . . . pardon me . . . I’m having a stupid moment . . . I can’t find where to click on the colinette pages to find the practical details. http://www.colinette.com/products/Zanziba-%252d-Rose-Garden. html for example. I want it, but what’s it made of? What’s the size and what’s the gauge? What am I missing?

blondviolinist already found it above but yes, each yarn has a 'home' page that shows the label. E.g. http://www.colinette.com/categories/yarns/zanziba/

Is this the right time to mention that the yarn that first attracted me to Colinette, being a slow knitter frustrated with taking months or even years to complete a garment, was their Point Five which knits on 12 (yes, TWELVE) mm needles...? http://www.colinette.com/categories/yarns/point-five/

It knits up like this: http://www.shipofdreams.btinternet.co.uk/knitty/2005october/point5_hat.jpg

[Updated on: Sat, 19 May 2012 08:07]


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Re: Forum Knitting [message #49880 is a reply to message #49862 ] Sat, 19 May 2012 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I also don’t know what time frame you’re talking about, but knitting has gone from something embarrassing your grandmother did because she didn’t get out much to madly hot and cool (so to speak) in something like the last ten years over here—I don’t know if America led the way on this or not. Or anyway that’s about what friends my age say about looking around on the tube and in staff meetings. Ten years ago, everyone scowled at their newspaper or their notepad. Now they knit.

The visit to England was for Christmas 2009, and I'd been reading about how huge knitting was getting in the UK. I think the trendiness was pretty much simultaneous. I've been knitting since way before it was cool (just after Cosby sweaters stopped being desirable and before they started being awesome for Ugly Sweater Parties) but from 2001 to 2005 worked at a JoAnn Fabrics in the San Francisco area, and got to see the growing popularity first-hand. When I started there, pretty much everything hand-made was growing in popularity, most people saying it was because of the World Trade Center attacks and wanting something more homey and comforting, but I've no idea if that has any traction or not. Anyway, since I was in the 'trade' (and the resident knitter at our store. I still miss complete strangers coming up to me with a very long project held out like a sacrifice, saying 'Someone told me you know how to bind off'...) I was paying attention to what was happening elsewhere, and while big knits were being organized in Golden Gate Park, the same sort of thing was taking place on the Underground.

No, I think my 'wool/yarn' problem (which I sort of equate to the 'all soft drinks are Coke' thing in the American South) was much more that Google hates me. Or I don't think the right way to get Google to give me the information I want. Or something. But the first time I asked my partner's family about 'yarn' they all gave me stares as blank as a sheep's. So now I use 'wool' (even if it's cotton or alpaca) to make a 'jumper' (because sweaters are sweatshirts, I so don't get that one) and continue to doubt my ability to effectively translate from American to British. (And that's not counting accents. Oh, lordy, the accents...)
Re: Forum Knitting [message #49905 is a reply to message #49872 ] Sun, 20 May 2012 23:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stardancer wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 16:20

Diane in MN wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 00:53

If you make a 4 x 4 inch/10 cm x 10 cm gauge swatch, then rip it out and measure how much yarn you used, you can figure how much you would save by making your sweater 8 inches shorter. Tedious, but less tedious than running out of yarn. Or you might look for a similar but shorter cardigan pattern and see how much yardage the shorter one calls for, as a guesstimate. Eight inches around a sweater is quite a lot of fabric, so you may well come out right with your chosen yarn.


Gauge is awesome when it works. However--a Cautionary Tale--I have managed to get at least THREE different gauges on one project. It's an argyle vest for my fiance, and so far I've only worked on the back. It's one color and not too argyle-y yet, so you'd think it would be that hard. But I tried knitting with the recommended (tiny) needle sizes and my gauge was too big--I didn't have enough stitches to the 4", or whatever it was. So I tried again on smaller needles and that worked okay. Until partway through, when my knitting must have inexplicably tightened, because it started growing smaller at the top. ARGH.

The moral of the story: Gauge is a cruel, cruel mistress. But still worth trying. At least in this case I know I CAN attain the correct gauge with the needles I'm (still, very carefully) using.


I agree
I made my friend a baby blanket, and even though I used some of my squares to "gauge" the project, I still had to completely rip two of them apart to get the gauge to work (sort of - the darker squares ended up be different again even though it was the same yarn - I blame finding it harder to crochet in dark colours for that). by the time I had finished half of my squares, I had also worked out that the gauge listed for the pattern was completely unobtainable due to the row count being set up for the stripe system (alternate squares) and not for the block colours. Instead of being able to get squares I got rectangles and nothing I did would change it.
"sod this!" I cried and changed the array of squares (now rectangles) to suit myself. It got done in the end at least.
Re: Forum Knitting [message #49911 is a reply to message #49862 ] Mon, 21 May 2012 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Katsheare said:

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So now I use 'wool' (even if it's cotton or alpaca) to make a 'jumper' (because sweaters are sweatshirts, I so don't get that one) and continue to doubt my ability to effectively translate from American to British.


Translating from American to British and vice versa is, indeed, a snare for the unwary. Particularly confusing are regional differences. I grew up in the NE of England and now live in the NW, and for me sweatshirts have always been called sweatshirts. For a wool / knitted item I normally use jumper, but sweater is in common usage in these parts pretty much interchangeably with jumper (and I sometimes use it myself if the mood takes me).

My feeling (and I may be quite wrong here) is that the difference between those who use 'jumper' and those who use 'sweater' is a minor social class variation. I have the impression that 'sweater' may be very slightly more upper class than 'jumper', but it may in fact be more of a regional divide thingy.
Re: Forum Knitting [message #49914 is a reply to message #49911 ] Mon, 21 May 2012 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mockorange wrote on Mon, 21 May 2012 11:38


My feeling (and I may be quite wrong here) is that the difference between those who use 'jumper' and those who use 'sweater' is a minor social class variation. I have the impression that 'sweater' may be very slightly more upper class than 'jumper', but it may in fact be more of a regional divide thingy.


Ah, yes, class distinctions. Give me a good decade living here and I might get them, and remember them in the wild. Maybe. Actually, we live in Berkshire, so the extremes of class can be observed. Some of the extremes of region as well. since so many people have moved here for work, etc.

Part of my challenge is that it's such a small percentage of our language that's not perfectly shared, barring accent, and I never know where to look. I oughtn't call the taps the faucet? The sidewalk's pavement? My store-bought items are actually shop-bought? What has helped are new friends here who are willing to correct my pronounciation (lorry. That's a toughie for a midwesterner-by-way-of-California) and that my partner was a Brit stranded in the US for 30 years.

On a similar note, have you seen this: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PfDnNojo0Xg ? Speaking of US/UK relations...
Re: Forum Knitting [message #49916 is a reply to message #49862 ] Mon, 21 May 2012 09:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And on the subject of learning things out of books, which I almost never can, someone has to SHOW ME, the beginner knitting book that I can actually use


For my beginner knit students, I recommend Lucy Neatby's dvds - the Brand New Knitter dvd goes out of our store as soon as a shipment arrives. And when Lucy travels to Dallas to teach, her classes always fill up within a week.
Re: Forum Knitting [message #49923 is a reply to message #49862 ] Mon, 21 May 2012 15:43 Go to previous message
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Katsheare wrote:

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On a similar note, have you seen this: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PfDnNojo0Xg ? Speaking of US/UK relations...


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