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My First Goat and the best-selling paperback, guest post by HorsehairBraider


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Re: My First Goat and the best-selling paperback, guest post by HorsehairBraider [message #48144 is a reply to message #48143 ] Sun, 05 February 2012 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That was a delightful story; thank you for sharing!


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Re: My First Goat and the best-selling paperback, guest post by HorsehairBraider [message #48145 is a reply to message #48143 ] Sun, 05 February 2012 22:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, I loved the story too. Thanks for sharing!


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Re: My First Goat and the best-selling paperback, guest post by HorsehairBraider [message #48148 is a reply to message #48143 ] Mon, 06 February 2012 01:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Idem the first two comments! I loved it too.
Re: My First Goat and the best-selling paperback, guest post by HorsehairBraider [message #48149 is a reply to message #48143 ] Mon, 06 February 2012 01:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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still I’m pretty sure… that the best-selling paperback book in the racks at the check-out counters was “Rosemary’s Baby”.

I have to say that this thought crossed my mind even before I read your last paragraph, just as soon as you described the woman's reaction when she lifted the blanket. Bless her heart, she must not have been a critter person. The people I hang out with would have been entirely charmed by your four-footed baby!

Great story, and I'm glad it turned out well for Zoe. Did Zephyr ever take her back?



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Re: My First Goat and the best-selling paperback, guest post by HorsehairBraider [message #48150 is a reply to message #48149 ] Mon, 06 February 2012 04:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LOL. Thank you so much for that story!

As one who has caught baby goat droppings in a tin can to save the kitchen floor, I appreciate it.

And now I'd like more ... did you take over the farm? Was Zoe the foundation of your herd?
Re: My First Goat and the best-selling paperback, guest post by HorsehairBraider [message #48151 is a reply to message #48143 ] Mon, 06 February 2012 05:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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While the families might be a tad smaller on average, not that much has changed about the SLC area. People were doing things like assuming we were infertile because we waited to have kids until I was at the ripe old age of...25. My first thought was that you should have contacted some of those fecund neighbors for help, but on second thought, I'm more critter friendly than average. While I wouldn't have blinked at sharing a bottle, particularly in such circumstances, I have step siblings that certainly would.

To be a fly on the wall to have seen that woman's expression, though! Hilarious to even think about it.
Re: My First Goat and the best-selling paperback, guest post by HorsehairBraider [message #48152 is a reply to message #48143 ] Mon, 06 February 2012 06:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great story, thank you. Smile

I hope Zephyr recovered and went on to have better kidding (?) experiences? Zoe sounds lovely - what a pity though that a place like a goat farm hadn't already got feeding bottles around!

I went and looked up the Saanen breed. I see that there is mention here of their 'eager to please' temperament. That certainly sounds like a useful trait. Smile


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Re: My First Goat and the best-selling paperback, guest post by HorsehairBraider [message #48153 is a reply to message #48143 ] Mon, 06 February 2012 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great story! I almost died when I realized you wrapped your goat up like a baby and took her into a store. Fantastic!
Re: My First Goat and the best-selling paperback, guest post by HorsehairBraider [message #48159 is a reply to message #48143 ] Mon, 06 February 2012 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you! To answer some questions:

The farm no doubt did have kid raising equipment, but I did not know where it was. The family was in Mexico camping so I could not call them or anything, just had to wing it.

By the time I had the horse hitched and was ready to go to the store, it was dark... Knocking on someone's door after dark, holding a goat, and asking for a baby bottle? I don't think they would have gone for it... they weren't even pleased to see me in the daytime since I was not a member of their church. Makes me laugh to think about knocking on doors though!

Zoe was the foundation of my original herd. My original herd of dairy goats were "grade", to put it kindly, and Zoe was the closest thing I had to a purebred. She was also my best producer, and was a very sweet goat to the end of her days.

I did not take over the farm... curses! Foiled again in my attempts to take over the world! Smile I just got my own farm instead. Much easier. Very Happy

As far as Zephyr taking Zoe back: these days I could get that to happen. Back then, I did not know how, and my mentors were gone for another two weeks. But at the risk of TMI... as the milk goes through the kid (so to speak), the mother checks the back end of the kid for her own scent in the dung, one of the ways she recognizes her kid. Well, not knowing this, I was feeding Zoe from a pool of milk from all the does, so her dung would have smelled strange to her mother. (There was a sheep stamp issued by the US postal service showing a ewe sniffing the nose of her lamb, and we all laughed heartily over it because that is NOT the end that the mother sniffs!) But actually I never tried to get Zephyr to take her back. I was having too much fun having a little white goat as my constant companion.


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HorsehairBraider wrote on Mon, 06 February 2012 17:37

But at the risk of TMI... as the milk goes through the kid (so to speak), the mother checks the back end of the kid for her own scent in the dung, one of the ways she recognizes her kid. Well, not knowing this, I was feeding Zoe from a pool of milk from all the does, so her dung would have smelled strange to her mother.

The things one learns on this forum..! Can't you just imagine the sight in a hospital creche of newborns, if human mothers did the same thing. Smile



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AJLR wrote on Mon, 06 February 2012 11:20


The things one learns on this forum..! Can't you just imagine the sight in a hospital creche of newborns, if human mothers did the same thing. Smile



It's probably not as crazy as you might think. I saw a story once about a study that suggested that mothers don't find their baby's poop as stinky as that of other babies. Makes me wonder now if they did any of those comparisons between breastfeeding mothers and formula feeding mothers...
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As someone who finds the intrusion of strangers into one's personal space without asking infuriatingly rude, I laughed so hard about the woman who, clearly without asking, decided she had the right to disturb the baby. Hopefully it made her think twice about touching people she didn't know without asking, but I have a feeling I'm hoping for too much.
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MichellePar wrote on Mon, 06 February 2012 21:04

As someone who finds the intrusion of strangers into one's personal space without asking infuriatingly rude, I laughed so hard about the woman who, clearly without asking, decided she had the right to disturb the baby. Hopefully it made her think twice about touching people she didn't know without asking, but I have a feeling I'm hoping for too much.


Very Happy It was quite a moment. I had not noticed her at all because I was so busy concentrating on getting my stuff and getting out of the store... and when I saw her, she was too close. FAR too late to say anything at all to her.

At the time, I was just grateful that she walked straight out of the store without screaming or saying anything to management. But over the years I've wondered... did she need to get right home and change her clothes? Was she simply shocked out of her mind? To me, goats and animals are SO normal and expected. It was the first time I really realized that OTHER people do not think that way. That OTHER people don't bring goats in their house, even if they are tiny and need help. It was a real eye opener for me.


They say princes learn no art truly, save that of horsemanship. The reason is, the brave beast is no flatterer. He will throw a prince as soon as his groom. Ben Jonson
Re: My First Goat and the best-selling paperback, guest post by HorsehairBraider [message #48169 is a reply to message #48159 ] Tue, 07 February 2012 01:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No such thing as TMI! Smile



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Re: My First Goat and the best-selling paperback, guest post by HorsehairBraider [message #48171 is a reply to message #48143 ] Tue, 07 February 2012 04:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have you ever tried to pick up an adult goat who has gone limp?


No, but this reminded me of the time we had to pick up an adult alpaca...

I was on my 4th year veterinary student equine emergency rotation (the equine services handle camelids at my school). An alpaca came (I no longer remember what his problem was, nor what the outcome was, so don't ask). We had to get him from receiving to radiography, and then from radiography to a stall. He decided he was not coming with us (which is the bit that your goat story reminded me of).

Ultimately, we ended up having three veterinary students and a technician, one at each corner of the alpaca, pick him up and carry him. This is when I learned that alpacas not only spit, but they spit wads of partially chewed up hay at people they don't like, and as I recall, with considerable force and accuracy. The resident then manned the head of the alpaca to aim the alpaca-spitwad-machine-gun in (mostly) harmless directions.

Of course, he decided, once he was in his stall, that his legs did work after all.

Apparently, it takes five people to successfully carry an alpaca. It has since occurred to me that it might have been easier if we had gotten a gurney...
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equus_peduus wrote on Tue, 07 February 2012 04:05

Apparently, it takes five people to successfully carry an alpaca. It has since occurred to me that it might have been easier if we had gotten a gurney...

Perhaps. *g*
(A sock over the firing end would have reduced your numbers to 4. Just a hint for next time... Wink )


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b_twin_1 wrote on Tue, 07 February 2012 02:17

equus_peduus wrote on Tue, 07 February 2012 04:05

Apparently, it takes five people to successfully carry an alpaca. It has since occurred to me that it might have been easier if we had gotten a gurney...

Perhaps. *g*
(A sock over the firing end would have reduced your numbers to 4. Just a hint for next time... Wink )


Well, aren't we clever, then? <g> If I am ever in possession of a machine-gun alpaca in the future, I'll try to remember this. Smile
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AJLR wrote on Mon, 06 February 2012 18:20


The things one learns on this forum..! Can't you just imagine the sight in a hospital creche of newborns, if human mothers did the same thing. Smile


You've obviously never been to a toddler group, then - the one I take my grandson to, it is normative to pick your child up and sniff his or her bottom - admittedly, in order to find out whether he or she needs a clean nappy, but even still.... it makes me giggle every time I see it happening, and I have been known to do it myself!


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