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| Re: First Pages [message #48096 is a reply to message #48094 ] |
Thu, 02 February 2012 23:54   |
EMoon Messages: 665 Registered: March 2009 |
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It's downright scary sometimes how much your process is like my process...the whole thing about each character's voice, each book's voice, each book's vocabulary, so sometimes I can't hear the word I need--none of the first/second/third choice words works in that sentence and I can spend hours digging through dictionaries hoping to find the one right one. The stuff I have to write down (revolving door, uniform, etc.) that has to come out later because who cares, it doesn't matter (only some of the details DO matter and I don't know which ones until the book's done or nearly done.
Spent the day fighting a chapter that my agent found "flat" and trying to figure out why, and what to do about it. It's maybe mostly fixed. Maybe.
However, for a moment of levity for any of the knitters about...I was making progress (I thought) on the sock cuff. Took a break to knit and watch TV. Turns out, you can lose track of the number of needles in the project and end up with only two. Bound together at each end. Not sure how I'm going to fix this.... Pictures at http://e-moon60.livejournal.com/
That last stitch was really, really hard to do and I couldn't figure out why.
It reminds me of the time my mother was trying to teach me to make slacks. I made it through cutting out the pieces, but when I sewed the first long seam, I managed to sew half of one leg to itself, producing a sort of soda-straw not even a model could get a leg through. My mother looked at it with an expression of fascinated horror: "I have never seen anyone do that. I didn't know anyone COULD do that! How could you not NOTICE?" (Yet more proof her daughter had not inherited the engineering gene.)
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| Re: First Pages [message #48098 is a reply to message #48096 ] |
Fri, 03 February 2012 00:50   |
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EMoon, I have to laugh at your slacks! We have a phrase "fatally twisted" in our family that I believe arose as someone (me?) was getting into pajamas and got both feet into the same leg. Somehow those slacks brought the phrase to mind.
Can you (carefully!) slide all the stitches off the two needles and then reinsert three needles into the requisite number of stitches each?
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| Re: First Pages [message #48101 is a reply to message #48100 ] |
Fri, 03 February 2012 01:52   |
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danceswithpahis Messages: 380 Registered: October 2008 |
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| Diane in MN wrote on Fri, 03 February 2012 01:36 | [ . . . ]no book’s voice is like any other book’s voice. The bright sharp individual edge of a first person narration is a lot of fun, as is trying, an especially taxing exercise in these alt-mod stories, to ride the frelling slang till it settles down enough I start understanding it
This must have been a particularly interesting process with Sunshine, whose slang really stands out for me in this context. I like it a lot and have wondered where it came from . . . 
I suppose one plus for a series writer is that each book's voice is going to be substantially the same; the problem then becomes keeping it from getting stale.
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I was talking with a friend tonight about a series we both enjoy which has lasted over a number of decades, and how besides having it not become stale, it also needs to be the same general story (because it's more in the Robert Jordan type of series with one long story line leading towards a specific climax than, say, Discworld, with lots of stories all in the same world but not necessarily all related). We're not sure it's still the same story anymore. It's still a good story, but... different now.
"Oh good! My dog found the chainsaw!"
-- Lilo ("Lilo and Stitch")
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| Re: First Pages [message #48109 is a reply to message #48094 ] |
Fri, 03 February 2012 06:50   |
gamma Messages: 14 Registered: November 2011 |
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In a word... (from Futility Closet).
And, all the stitches on two needles is my preferred form of long term storage, since it lays flat so nicely. (And then you only have to find four point protectors, which is often all I can scrape up... Where do they all go??)
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| Re: First Pages [message #48110 is a reply to message #48096 ] |
Fri, 03 February 2012 09:33   |
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blondviolinist Messages: 1071 Registered: October 2008 Location: Midwestern United States |
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| EMoon wrote on Thu, 02 February 2012 23:54 |
However, for a moment of levity for any of the knitters about...I was making progress (I thought) on the sock cuff. Took a break to knit and watch TV. Turns out, you can lose track of the number of needles in the project and end up with only two. Bound together at each end. Not sure how I'm going to fix this.... Pictures at http://e-moon60.livejournal.com/
That last stitch was really, really hard to do and I couldn't figure out why.
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Oy! Yeah, knitting in the round on two DPNs is really, really hard. Ask me how I know. 
Here's the fix: take one of the empty DPNs and, starting with the next stitch you were going to work, gently slide stitches from the overfull needle to the empty needle. Don't twist them or anything. Just slip them from one needle to the other, tip to tip. (This is "slipping a stitch purlwise," if anyone cares.) Keep slipping stitches until you have the correct number of stitches on that needle. Then repeat the process with the second empty DPN, starting right where you left off. Using this method of slipping stitches, you can pretty much play infinitely with moving stitches around between your needles, until you're happy with where the stitches are. Just remember to make sure that the last stitch with your working yarn attached to it is at the end of one of the needles.
"Purity of heart is to will one thing." Kirkegaard
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| Re: First Pages [message #48113 is a reply to message #48094 ] |
Fri, 03 February 2012 19:55   |
Piankatank Messages: 35 Registered: October 2008 Location: Virginia, USA |
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I'm curious about the three drafts in a row. Knowing that the second draft was just delivered and immediately starting on the third, where does the editor come in? I sort of assumed that the second draft went to the editor to review and then once there is input from the editor you worked the next draft.
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| Re: First Pages [message #48124 is a reply to message #48115 ] |
Sat, 04 February 2012 09:00   |
gamma Messages: 14 Registered: November 2011 |
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| Aaron wrote on Fri, 03 February 2012 21:33 | Charrette? The OED does not agree, is this a web site for newly proposed meanings?
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It may not be in the OED, but the rest of the world seems to use it.
[Updated on: Sun, 05 February 2012 10:41]
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| Re: First Pages [message #48127 is a reply to message #48094 ] |
Sat, 04 February 2012 10:03   |
CathyR Messages: 575 Registered: July 2009 Location: NW England |
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I want a new car less and less as I hear friends with shiny new cars talking about the way the computers in new cars run their lives. And go wrong, of course.
Tell me about it!! Living thru just this scenario at present. Intermittent problems with accelerator, and dashboard warning light. Fortunately, good local garage is only charging me for the fuel filter they ordered and fitted (to no avail). Despite having the car for four days, and running loads of diagnostics, they are not charging me for any of their labour time, because they didn't fix the problem.
But, that leaves me with a still-dodgy car ... Computers have a lot to answer for, whether on the desk top or under the bonnet ...
Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.
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| Re: First Pages [message #48129 is a reply to message #48128 ] |
Sat, 04 February 2012 14:59  |
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blondviolinist Messages: 1071 Registered: October 2008 Location: Midwestern United States |
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Yes. A charette was originally some kind of horse-drawn thingymajig. OED thinks the modern usage may come from French architecture students using charettes to convey their architecture projects around the city for display purposes, hence the eventual usage of "charette" for some kind of group creative effort, especially in regards to city planning or building. The use of "charette" for an individual creative effort seems to be more recent than the 2007 update of the OED I was looking at.
"Purity of heart is to will one thing." Kirkegaard
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