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Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47623]

Mon, 16 January 2012 20:55

Robin
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http://robinmckinleysblog.com/2012/01/17/team-bell-ringing/

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47626 is a reply to message #47623 ]

Tue, 17 January 2012 00:00

HorsehairBraider
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Registered: August 2009
Location: New Mexico

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If you are worried about falling out of the habit of blogging, you could perhaps take a vacation and simply post that you will be back on a certain day. Like, maybe, the second day of February. Of course we all worry about you still being alive (especially me! Very Happy

) but everybody takes vacations, right? Lots of people take time off and then come back. It's only sensible.

I envy you those marvelous bell towers. There are all sorts of little churches here that they call "moradas" but they only ever have one bell in them, if they have a bell at all. There is one across the valley from me that I sometimes drive (a horse and carriage) to, and there is a lone bell in that one that I sometimes hear pealing.

_{They say princes learn no art truly, save that of horsemanship. The reason is, the brave beast is no flatterer. He will throw a prince as soon as his groom. Ben Jonson}

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47627 is a reply to message #47623 ]

Tue, 17 January 2012 00:37

Diane in MN
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Location: Twin Cities, MN, USA

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Congrats on getting to a tower and a rope and getting through Grandsire Triples. One in the eye for the lurgy, hurrah. May it take the hint and clear out.

If I ever stopped to think, You mean I have to stomp through the elements twice a day for two hours EVERY DAY for the rest of their LIVES?, I would probably freak out and starting researching very large hamster wheels on line.

The big hamster wheel is probably wishful thinking, but there is the JOG A DOG in case that thought about stomping through the elementds finally overtakes you. Smile

Although you probably don't have room for a dog treadmill if you want any furniture in your sitting room. They are hideously expensive as well as big, but I would love to have one in my basement, for the several months of the year when ice makes outdoor exercise an invitation to a torn cruciate.

_{"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich}

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47628 is a reply to message #47623 ]

Tue, 17 January 2012 01:47

glinda
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Registered: January 2009
Location: Bainbridge Island, WA

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The reason there are people in padded rooms murmuring brokenly, No, no! Not Stedman!

For some reason, that took me right to Cordwainer Smith's "No, no! Not Rogov!"

Yeah, I know, my mind goes wandering in strange directions, with but the last bit of encouragement given it...

_{Still will I harvest beauty where it grows... -- Edna St. Vincent Millay}

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47629 is a reply to message #47623 ]

Tue, 17 January 2012 02:27

CathyR
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Great to read about bellringing success again! Smile

Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47630 is a reply to message #47623 ]

Tue, 17 January 2012 07:46

Mirkat
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Location: Richland, WA

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It would probably be more helpful to submit guest blogs. Sadly, my life is not that interesting heheheh.

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47631 is a reply to message #47623 ]

Tue, 17 January 2012 12:02

AJLR
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Quote:

Stedman’s threat to humanity is different.

I'm a looong way off being able to ring Stedman Doubles, let alone Triples, but when I was looking it up (for some reason) in a couple of theory books, I was struck with the fact that Stedman is apparently a Principle, not a Method. Why? I mean, what does that mean? Smile

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unless you have a scarily overachieving conductor, you’re just frelled.

We have one of those, too. One of these 'learnt as a teenager' people. She's very reassuring to have around though, in all sorts of ways. I'm just sad that I haven't got enough years left to get to that level. Smile

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47632 is a reply to message #47631 ]

Tue, 17 January 2012 12:06

Robin
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It means that the treble rings the same line as all the other inside bells--ie the thing that makes Stedman a super-volatile ratbag. As I understand it, that's the definition of a principle, rather than a method, although people get all sheepish (in my experience, but we're pretty raggedy-andy around here) about insisting on calling Stedman a principle.

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47633 is a reply to message #47632 ]

Tue, 17 January 2012 13:56

CathyR
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Robin wrote on Tue, 17 January 2012 17:06

Yes, and so Plain Hunt is also a principle, for the same reason.

Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47641 is a reply to message #47631 ]

Tue, 17 January 2012 19:15

Audrey Falconer
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Registered: October 2008
Location: Melbourne, Australia

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I can almost ring Stedman Doubles. That's scary, seeing as I can barely ring Plain Bob Doubles and Grandsire Doubles! (I'm steady on the treble so tend to stick there to help everyone else with the learning. I wish I could ring inside with me on the treble, sometimes!)

The entire band is learning it and we've gotten within 2 blows of getting through it. Can ring it just fine on my phone, but in a real tower, without a steadying treble, it's a different matter. It helps to remember that you do your dodging with each other bell....

In other news, the learner went from successfully ringing plain hunt on 3 last week to ringing plain hunt on 4. It's summer holidays here so we've only got a few people around but are keeping the learner going as much as we can!

Audrey

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47644 is a reply to message #47623 ]

Tue, 17 January 2012 20:28

cuivi
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Registered: May 2010
Location: DC suburbs

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About the coughing... I'm not sure if I'm stating the obvious or what, but if its a productive sort of cough and not the dry hacking sort of cough it helps to spit the mucus out. Last winter I had a really bad cough, to the point where someone at work dubbed me Tub. Anyway, it helped a lot. As someone who used to get bronchitis a lot, I really sympathize with the coughing. I got so sick of water afterwards.

Heeeh. And now that I've said my gross bit, I'll return to the shadows.

Hope you feel better soon!!!

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47646 is a reply to message #47644 ]

Tue, 17 January 2012 20:55

Robin
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It's only just STARTED to be very slightly productive, which I hope is a Good Thing.

For the last fortnight it's just been the horrible dry hacking variety. The kind where you think you're about to re-enact John Hurt in ALIEN.

Thanks.

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47657 is a reply to message #47641 ]

Wed, 18 January 2012 02:56

CathyR
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Audrey Falconer wrote on Wed, 18 January 2012 00:15

I can almost ring Stedman Doubles. That's scary, seeing as I can barely ring Plain Bob Doubles and Grandsire Doubles!

That's great! Smile

Audrey Falconer wrote on Wed, 18 January 2012 00:15

(I'm steady on the treble so tend to stick there to help everyone else with the learning. I wish I could ring inside with me on the treble, sometimes!)

Seriously, you're invaluable as a steady treble ringer - but please, please, if you can, don't let yourself become pigeonholed as "the treble ringer", not being given any opportunities to learn to ring inside. I'm sure you have done already, but keep letting your tower captain know that you'd really like to ring inside as well. You'll miss out on your own fun and learning if you stick (are stuck) on the treble to help everyone else.

Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47658 is a reply to message #47657 ]

Wed, 18 January 2012 06:22

AJLR
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CathyR wrote on Wed, 18 January 2012 07:56

Yes - and I found that doing quite a bit of trebling at my home tower was not helpful for learning to ring inside, as I got used to the rhythm of 'four blows up and four blows down, lead, lead'. Because we don't do Plain Hunt at my home tower, once I'd 'got' call changes I was taught to hunt through trebling to Grandsire Doubles and therefore found it more difficult to get my head around the varying patterns of inside ringing. My tower is great, in all sorts of ways, but I was glad I had a Ringing Centre reasonably near to try out PH and other positions with. Smile

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47664 is a reply to message #47658 ]

Wed, 18 January 2012 14:43

CathyR
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I actually did hardly any treble ringing at all when I was learning. We had one ringer who could and would only ring the treble (up to plain courses of bob doubles and grandsire only), so I was ringing inside from the start. Although it meant it took me a long time to become even a part way reasonable treble ringer, I'm glad things worked out that way. I still prefer to ring inside, whatever the method, given the choice.

Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.

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Re: Team Bell (Ringing) [message #47670 is a reply to message #47664 ]

Wed, 18 January 2012 19:13

Audrey Falconer
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Oh, I started out on the 4, learnt Plain Hunt on the 4 then did some trebling, knowing that that was the most useful thing I can do. When everyone else is steady though a method then I can have a go at it withuot others going wrong around me, which doesn't really help me with learning a method. In the meantime I watch the method from the treble and try to work out where it went wrong.

We're a Minimus and Plain Bob tower, really. And our treble is a little interesting to ring - light, rope goes through a pulley, and you have to stand under stairs and be careful to not hit your head or your hands.

It must have been interesting learning to ring Plain Hunt while trebling to Grandsire! That would have sorted out anyone who tried to ring by numbers! (One of our most reliable ringers rings only by numbers, which is limiting.)

Audrey

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