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Absolutely clueless [message #47142] Tue, 27 December 2011 20:02 Go to next message
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Re: Absolutely clueless [message #47143 is a reply to message #47142 ] Tue, 27 December 2011 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your reaction to cats in boxes was pretty much my reaction to cats in boxes when I first heard about it. I mean, we all know the best cat trap is a box in the middle of a room, so clearly they [i]like[/] boxes -- but shutting them in one? There's generally less like. Especially if they're 50% dead.

That t-shirt does crack me up, though.


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Re: Absolutely clueless [message #47145 is a reply to message #47142 ] Tue, 27 December 2011 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think this is the right place for a Pratchett-quote Smile

"Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious."
Re: Absolutely clueless [message #47148 is a reply to message #47142 ] Wed, 28 December 2011 01:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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THIS IS NOT HOW A CAT IN A BOX BEHAVES.


This quote (the whole post, actually), had me painfully stifling loud guffaws of laughter, the kind where I couldn't breathe for awhile (and then one of the cousins who was theoretically sleeping -- hence the attempt at quiet -- came in and had the paragraph read to her as well, although I could barely get it out. Thank you for the dose of reality and common sense. Some scientists do a great job of taking into account the reality of The Way Things Work, but when they don't, when they propose lofty theories about life that are unrealistic and ridiculous, I can't see that it helps advance science that much (other than the occasional simplified example that the author recognizes is simplified for the purpose of demonstrating a single point).

As to the young man going great speeds, my immediate reaction (based on my own nephews) was that he was riding a bike at you downhill. Of course, the example doesn't mention this (would the bike make up part of the 50 lbs?), but it's the only way I know of that a coordinated, small-for-his-age boy who is 50 lbs (or 40 plus a 10 lb bike, or whatever) could safely go 20 mph without a combustible motor. Of course, it's obvious that he's NOT in fact going 20 mph safely if he's running into you (this is why I do not stand at the bottoms of hills in front of my speeding biking nephews, although I don't think they generally get going that fast), but perhaps his brakes failed on the way down and he's too terrified to throw himself off the bike, and you are self-sacrificingly slowing the impact of his crash by letting him run into you so he doesn't end up in a broken heap. I'm sure there are better ways to stop him, but maybe you're too terrified (for his safety) to think of them right then.


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Re: Absolutely clueless [message #47150 is a reply to message #47142 ] Wed, 28 December 2011 02:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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THIS IS MATHS! THIS IS TOTALLY MATHS!

It certainly is. I myself would surrender immediately, skip over any pages that look like that, and hope to find a summary at the end of the chapter.

to this English lit major—this just means some science bozo is inventing new definitions for ‘small’ and ‘large’.

Of course the bozo can then write a book using the "new" terminology and lure in readers who will think "small, large, how hard can it be?" Smile



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Re: Absolutely clueless [message #47151 is a reply to message #47148 ] Wed, 28 December 2011 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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danceswithpahis wrote on Wed, 28 December 2011 01:50


As to the young man going great speeds, my immediate reaction (based on my own nephews) was that he was riding a bike at you downhill. Of course, the example doesn't mention this (would the bike make up part of the 50 lbs?), but it's the only way I know of that a coordinated, small-for-his-age boy who is 50 lbs (or 40 plus a 10 lb bike, or whatever) could safely go 20 mph without a combustible motor. Of course, it's obvious that he's NOT in fact going 20 mph safely if he's running into you (this is why I do not stand at the bottoms of hills in front of my speeding biking nephews, although I don't think they generally get going that fast), but perhaps his brakes failed on the way down and he's too terrified to throw himself off the bike, and you are self-sacrificingly slowing the impact of his crash by letting him run into you so he doesn't end up in a broken heap. I'm sure there are better ways to stop him, but maybe you're too terrified (for his safety) to think of them right then.


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Re: Absolutely clueless [message #47152 is a reply to message #47142 ] Wed, 28 December 2011 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How is this small boy weighing 50 pounds managing to run into you going 20 miles per hour?

I’m still worried about the chances of a small boy with negligent parents and turbo-charged roller skates living long enough to grow up and become a famous Olympic sprinter.


*spews coffee trying not to laugh*
*not succeeding in not laughing & cleaning up mess having managed to miss computer*

I have a 50 lb boy - and if he was traveling at 20 mph, I would be seriously concerned!! He does try, mind you, with face-squinching dramatics, but 50 lb boys don't move that fast even at their very most fastest. Turbo charged skates would not provide accuracy and it would be very haphazard, getting knocked in the knees would almost be a blessing.

We caught stray cats once and put them in boxes to transport to the animal shelter. Lots of hissing, standing fur, ravaged broom & a batch of kittens.

I suppose this book was not intending to be funny, right?
Re: Absolutely clueless [message #47153 is a reply to message #47145 ] Wed, 28 December 2011 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Corellia wrote on Tue, 27 December 2011 21:54

I think this is the right place for a Pratchett-quote Smile

"Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious."


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Re: Absolutely clueless [message #47156 is a reply to message #47142 ] Wed, 28 December 2011 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, we missed a trick - I was staying with my daughter; there was a cardboard box which had previously contained a large Megablox set for my grandson. There was a cat in the box. There was my son-in-law with some sellotape.... but we didn't wonder whether or not the cat was alive! She came out when she was good and ready.

But seriously, there was a maths programme on BBC4 a while ago that tried to explain such things, don't know if you saw it. I can't remember what it was called (could it have been "The beauty of Equations" or "I've got a formula for that" or something similar - someone will know, I'm quite sure), but I'm sure there will be shreds and tatters of it on YouTube.


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Re: Absolutely clueless [message #47157 is a reply to message #47142 ] Wed, 28 December 2011 14:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In these analogies where they try to make math seem relevant and fun by saying "a 50 lb boy" rather than "a 50 lb object," I tend to imagine a giant slingshot, like in a Roadrunner cartoon.


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Re: Absolutely clueless [message #47158 is a reply to message #47142 ] Wed, 28 December 2011 15:07 Go to previous message
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The only reason I know anything about Schrodinger's Cat is from Stargate SG-1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNgvR3g5Xow

This post cracked me up though. THIS IS NOT HOW A CAT IN A BOX BEHAVES
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