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Re: Life... [message #43152 is a reply to message #43151 ] Mon, 04 July 2011 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Get the exclusion license on the principle that if you have it you wont need it.
I found a tall plastic wastepaper basket was perfect to cage bats when I had them - only a couple. And I have missed them these last few years. I suspect that the whitenose fungus has gotten the local population.


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Re: Life... [message #43153 is a reply to message #43151 ] Mon, 04 July 2011 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But even Nadia is saying, if your choir director is telling you to sing in the concert, you should frelling sing in the frelling concert.

Yes. Choir Directors are They Who Must Be Obeyed. I have fond memories of being an obedient choir member.

One of my favorite incidents happened one day when the choir director decided our voices needed re-balancing. In this choir we each were assigned a specific place to stand, so that we would produce the best possible blend of voices. (I don't pretend to understand how this works, but apparently it does.)

So everyone climbed down from the risers we usually stood on and the Director started putting us back up, one by one. She would say things like, "Betty, you stand *here.*. So Betty would obediently move to the proper place. "Now Elise, you go right *there.*" And Elise would obediently go there. Then she got to Julia. "Now Julia, I think I want you to go" (she contemplated for a moment) "... uuummmmmmm......"

So Julia obediently went "Uuummmmmmmmmm...."

Everyone cracked up.


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Re: Life... [message #43161 is a reply to message #43153 ] Tue, 05 July 2011 00:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That is SO like our Maestro. He moves us around to suit the group he's got and the balance he wants.


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Re: Life... [message #43164 is a reply to message #43151 ] Tue, 05 July 2011 01:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yay hurray for hungry hellhounds, may they keep up the good work. Smile

And good luck to you and Atlas on your hunt for bat entry points. If you think they're coming into the bathroom, have you looked at places where the plumbing goes into the walls? Mice, I know to my cost, will follow pipes and gain access to cupboards (once, anyway, and then the steel wool got applied); I suppose bats might do that, too, especially if the water theory is correct and there's condensation on the pipes.

It's too early for blueberries and sweet corn here, but the LOCAL STRAWBERRIES are in so who cares?

there are a lot of ‘Pipistrelle Cottages’ out there. Are these people CRAZY? Is this supposed to be a ROMANTIC name?

Could be that the owners don't know, or they think the potential renters won't know, what pipistrelles are. "It just sounds pretty," right?



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Re: Life... [message #43173 is a reply to message #43153 ] Tue, 05 July 2011 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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claning wrote on Mon, 04 July 2011 20:55

In this choir we each were assigned a specific place to stand, so that we would produce the best possible blend of voices. (I don't pretend to understand how this works, but apparently it does.)


It does work! I'm not sure quite how either--I think it probably has to do with things like the Physics of Sound Waves or something--but I've seen it work. My college director used to arrange our Chamber choir by section (sopranos, then altos, etc.) and it was amazing. They could sound pretty good in lineup A and absolutely stunning in lineup B. No difference other than who was standing next to who. It's pretty cool.
Re: Life... [message #43175 is a reply to message #43153 ] Tue, 05 July 2011 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We used to do that at the G&S group I used to sing with. We'd start rehearsals arranged by voice, then Mike (the MD) would move us around, because, of course, we wouldn't necessarily be standing next to people of the same 'voice' when we were on stage performing. He'd make us move so we weren't standing next to anyone in the same range. And we've used it a couple of times in the filk choir I sing in now - for one song we have a soloist and a septet accompaniment (should be quintet of soprano, alto, tenor, baritone, bass, but we need a couple of extra basses to get enough tone!), and we tried it standing in a nice order ... and it was just muzzy. When we moved people around (I now stand next to one of the basses, usually), it sounded *much* better!

I don't know why it works, either. It's good enough for me that it does.


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Re: Life... [message #43176 is a reply to message #43151 ] Tue, 05 July 2011 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been thinking about your bat situation a lot lately because . . . there's something living in my chimney.

It/they was/were here last year, but left over the winter. Well, now it's summer again and it/they are back. (I suspect it's they. They sound plural.) I haven't seen anything, but sometimes I hear this chirp-chitter thing. Whatever it is, it's echoing off the metal pipes in the basement -- it's the chimney for a furnace, not a fireplace -- so the sound is distorted. My father-in-law blocked the opening in the basement where they might come out, so at least I don't have to worry about them joining me while I work out.

But *something* is living in my chimney. Maybe tiny birds. Maybe bats. So yeah, been thinking about you. :D


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Re: Life... [message #43177 is a reply to message #43176 ] Tue, 05 July 2011 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jmeadows wrote on Tue, 05 July 2011 09:02

I've been thinking about your bat situation a lot lately because . . . there's something living in my chimney.

It/they was/were here last year, but left over the winter. Well, now it's summer again and it/they are back. (I suspect it's they. They sound plural.) I haven't seen anything, but sometimes I hear this chirp-chitter thing. Whatever it is, it's echoing off the metal pipes in the basement -- it's the chimney for a furnace, not a fireplace -- so the sound is distorted. My father-in-law blocked the opening in the basement where they might come out, so at least I don't have to worry about them joining me while I work out.

But *something* is living in my chimney. Maybe tiny birds. Maybe bats. So yeah, been thinking about you. Very Happy


Swallows? We had swallows living in our chimney every summer. If we were outside in the late afternoon and evening, we'd seem them swooping around eating bugs.


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Re: Life... [message #43178 is a reply to message #43151 ] Tue, 05 July 2011 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's jackdaws as live in my parents' front room chimney, and you wouldn't believe the mess they make if and when they come back down the chimney into the room! My mother would welcome a few nice, clean bats in exchange!


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Re: Life... [message #43184 is a reply to message #43177 ] Tue, 05 July 2011 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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blondviolinist wrote on Tue, 05 July 2011 09:04


Swallows? We had swallows living in our chimney every summer. If we were outside in the late afternoon and evening, we'd seem them swooping around eating bugs.


Could be! It's hard to tell what they are because of the echoing. As long as they don't come into my house. . . (We don't use the furnace, so none of us are in danger right now. But this winter we'll get the chimney cleaned out and put a screen over the top so they can't come back. I don't want accidents.)


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Re: Life... [message #43189 is a reply to message #43151 ] Tue, 05 July 2011 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We used to have flying squirrels in the chimney. You wouldn't believe how small a space they can fit through!
Re: Life... [message #43193 is a reply to message #43151 ] Tue, 05 July 2011 17:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Omg. Those little feet! Those TOES!

Not so darling to imagine them flapping about getting caught in your hair, or caroming at you off the ceiling; but in their PROPER environment, bats are quite charming.
Re: Life... [message #43207 is a reply to message #43184 ] Wed, 06 July 2011 00:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jmeadows wrote on Tue, 05 July 2011 09:43

blondviolinist wrote on Tue, 05 July 2011 09:04


Swallows? We had swallows living in our chimney every summer. If we were outside in the late afternoon and evening, we'd seem them swooping around eating bugs.


Could be! It's hard to tell what they are because of the echoing. As long as they don't come into my house. . . (We don't use the furnace, so none of us are in danger right now. But this winter we'll get the chimney cleaned out and put a screen over the top so they can't come back. I don't want accidents.)


A screened chimney cap will definitely keep birds out; we had to install one on a chimney in Atlanta that was a summer home for birds one year. We kept the damper closed to keep the old smoke smell out, so didn't have to deal with birds in the house. Smile



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Re: Life... [message #43210 is a reply to message #43161 ] Wed, 06 July 2011 05:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In this case he'd better let me stand next to someone who is singing what I'm singing. It's my first concert AND I'm seriously underrehearsed. He can get cute NEXT time when I'LL HAVE MADE *EVERY* REHEARSAL. And won't be panicking about this performance thing. IT'S NOT FAIR THAT IT'S THE DAY AFTER THE DAY AFTER THE SIGNING.
Re: Life... [message #43211 is a reply to message #43164 ] Wed, 06 July 2011 05:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Snork. Right. 'Pipistrelle'. Must be French. Everything French is romantic, right?
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They don't get caught in your hair: that's one of those myths the bat phobic put around. Mind you, I'm feeling a little bat *twitchy* myself. But I've (now) had them sailing past so close my hair briefly lifts in the wind of their frelling wings--but I don't think their echolocation is going to LET them get caught in your hair, you know? I suppose if they're panicked enough . . . but every Bat Person (including back in the States where bat-phobia is a little more understandable because of the possibility, however remote, of rabies) I've talked to say that caught-in-your-hair is a myth.

And yeah, they are totally adorably cute. As I keep (wearily) saying, if I HAVE to have a plague, I don't think it gets any BETTER than tiny pipistrelles. They're cute, they're harmless and nonaggressive, in the UK they are NOT disease vectors, they're good for the environment/they eat BUGS, their crap is pretty inoffensive and they don't pee much, they're mammals and they feed their young milk which as a fellow mammal I appreciate . . . I just DON'T WANT A PLAGUE. Plagues are plaguey. Even when they're cute.
Re: Life... [message #43213 is a reply to message #43207 ] Wed, 06 July 2011 05:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not definitely. As I imagine Mrs Redboot's parents could tell you--I imagine they live in an old house? Our old house, which was also *old* old, had chimneys that didn't cap efficiently. They were ALL capped . . . and we still had frelling jackdaws. Presumably we didn't have as MANY as we would have had WITHOUT the caps . . . but they still got through occasionally.

I think I've blogged about coming to the cottage the first time after the BRAND NEW FITTED CARPETS had gone in--before I'd moved in--and finding TWO BABY JACKDAWS dancing over the upstairs carpet in my bedroom. Fortunately they had NOT crapped yet!!!!! (They were also so young they were still 'tame'. Just looked at us as we picked them up and put them outdoors. Where, I might add, their parents were frantically looking for them. I had baby jackdaws in the shrubbery for a while.) I had my chimney here capped, and although it's another old house, the capping in this case SEEMS TO BE WORKING. . . .

Although Atlas and I are wondering about the chimney(s) in terms of bats. No capping in the world would keep bats out.
Re: Life... [message #43263 is a reply to message #43213 ] Thu, 07 July 2011 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They do indeed live in a fairly old house - not ancient/old, but built as 3 farm cottages in 1856 and gradually converted during the 20th century. I think it's not so much the jackdaw crap - although that, too - but the amount of soot they bring down the chimney with them and then spread around liberally!

I have no idea whether the chimney is capped or not - I assume it is, and they have done all that the sweep has recommended to avoid jackdaws, but try telling the jackdaws that!

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Chimney swifts nest in chimneys. Do no harm and eat LOTS of bugs. Little slim birds, described as 'cigars with wings.'
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