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Gardening Update #1811, or, Bleeding Profusely Again [message #42047] Wed, 11 May 2011 20:05 Go to next message
Maren  is currently offline Maren
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Gardening Update #1811, or, Bleeding Profusely Again
Re: Gardening Update #1811, or, Bleeding Profusely Again [message #42049 is a reply to message #42047 ] Wed, 11 May 2011 23:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jrsygrl626  is currently offline jrsygrl626
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This would be why I don't go near roses unless they are in a bouquet. I don't mind seeing other people's blood, but I tend to get squeamish if it is my own. (My mom is standing behind me grumbling that other people's blood better not make me squeamish since I got an A in "blood drawing" at school and I work in a doctor's office...) Here's a cyber rose for you, Robin. @-->-->--

I think if I gardened outside I'd have a messy garden too...

On a personal gardening note my sweet peppers are doing very well. The bigger of the two has grown over the top of the very large-because-I-couldn't-find-a-smaller pot. She has FOUR (!!!!) leaves on her now. I also have a marigold sprout and they haven't even been planted for a week yet! YAY!

[Updated on: Wed, 11 May 2011 23:24]


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Re: Gardening Update #1811, or, Bleeding Profusely Again [message #42051 is a reply to message #42047 ] Thu, 12 May 2011 01:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I discovered a red sore spot on my hand, and thought it was an insect bite or something. But it felt a little rough. Upon giving it a look with a magnifying glass, it was a rose thorn, a small one.

SO glad I had my tetanus shot last summer!


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Re: Gardening Update #1811, or, Bleeding Profusely Again [message #42052 is a reply to message #42047 ] Thu, 12 May 2011 01:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your garden is crowded. Mine is messy. There is a big difference. I have to assume that eventually it will stop raining and I can get some work done, but in the meantime I'm just grateful that it was dry enough for the front lawn to be mowed today. We had been looking like a dandelion nursery. No hope for the back, there's still standing water out there. But I have started to see bits of baby grass, hurrah.

I've never deliberately owned a predatory rosebush, but we inherited a couple at our first house. After a couple of years of thorny attacks on us, the dogs, and the cars, we got fed up and dug them out, and the arbor too. Rampaging rosebushes can be lovely, but they definitely need their own space. Smile



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Re: Gardening Update #1811, or, Bleeding Profusely Again [message #42053 is a reply to message #42047 ] Thu, 12 May 2011 01:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not that I think bleeding is a good idea in general, but this all made me very happy and nostalgic for my own days of bleeding in the dirt, may they come again. I love Cecile Brunner, mostly because she is so sprightly and smells lovely and looks like what I used to call "doll roses" when I was a little girl. Just last summer I had to contend with a fabulous specimen run amok--my parents had completely neglected most of their roses due to illness and injury during the appropriate seasons. I spent an entire day essentially stuck inside a rosebush the size of my first New York apartment, attempting to bring some order to chaos. It was a grand time!

The pots in pots in pots in pots I find intriguing.



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Re: Gardening Update #1811, or, Bleeding Profusely Again [message #42054 is a reply to message #42047 ] Thu, 12 May 2011 03:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If I’m lucky by the time Alicia-my-friend-the-serious-gardener arrives tomorrow we won’t be able to get out the kitchen door. She’s not likely to be in a very charitable mood because I’ll be making her ring handbells.

Really, you know, if you're lying prostrate and panting from blood loss by the time I get there this evening, I won't be able to enjoy your lovely garden for guilt!

Still, by the time you've all dragged me screaming through handbells for a few minutes, I can at least go outside and recover in the garden while all you experts torture yourselves some more. Razz
Re: Gardening Update #1811, or, Bleeding Profusely Again [message #42056 is a reply to message #42047 ] Thu, 12 May 2011 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I belong to the school of thought that says that a rosebush wants to be the size she wants to be, and she’ll waste a lot of time and energy regaining that size before she starts producing flowers.

Yay!! I can DO that!!

Everyone who claims love for roses around here is hard-core about pruning on President's Day (randomly chosen, I suppose, in February) not a day before or a day after. The one year I dutifully trimmed as told, all my roses gushed green back at me for my labor. So I switched to directing the sprawl for a while, but it's so sprawl-y, it's not exactly a design I'm proud to claim control of, so I've recently clung to being too busy on that ONE day and OOPS! missed my opportunity to prune.

There are some who wouldn't believe that I was gardening purposefully, but I know which things I'm leaving deliberately and which things I'm getting around to fixing.

What did you call yourself? an untidy gardener Yes. Perfect. On purpose!
Re: Gardening Update #1811, or, Bleeding Profusely Again [message #42059 is a reply to message #42054 ] Thu, 12 May 2011 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alicia wrote on Thu, 12 May 2011 03:04



Still, by the time you've all dragged me screaming through handbells for a few minutes, I can at least go outside and recover in the garden while all you experts torture yourselves some more. Razz


Mwahahaha!! Smile

Have a lovely time. I shall picture you and Bronwen, Robin and Niall, all tinkling away furiously ....

Re: Gardening Update #1811, or, Bleeding Profusely Again [message #42110 is a reply to message #42047 ] Mon, 16 May 2011 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BTW, Robin, does Agnes have more of a name?
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/roses.php?search gives me yellow Agneses, including
•Agnes, pre-1884 (Saunders) a rugosa (yellow, with a mild raspberry fragrance),
a grandiflora of no further info than introduced in 1979 by Kriloff (never heard of him)
•Agnes Laura Blackburn, a cluster-flowered yellow-blend floribunda
•Agnes Barclay, probably too short:
Hybrid Tea / Large-Flowered. Yellow blend, yellow with reddish-salmon to soft salmon pink tints. Strong, tea fragrance. Alister Clark (1927).

My guess is, after thinking things over, that it's the rugosa above, but with a stronger fragrance than helpmefind.com seems to have heard. My first antique rose was Deuil de Paul Fontaine.

Oh, regarding that floral arch--I long for a place in this property that would allow me such a thing. I have long wanted 1) a yard where I can have a lovely wooden fence that frames a decently wide archway, so as to accomodate seating on either side, UNDER the arch, covered with both roses and wisteria or 2) a walled garden with medieval aspects and a fruit & nut orchard, with a gate whose upper curve an arch could echo, and be covered with both roses and wisteria. A walkway under a pergola would be nice as well, so as to allow *multiple* roses and wisterias. Sigh.

I'll admit, I do have some favored thornless/nearly thornless roses, such as Zephirine Drouhin, a deep rose pink, strongly fragrant, Bourbon OGR (Bizot - 1868)
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Re: Gardening Update #1811, or, Bleeding Profusely Again [message #42111 is a reply to message #42056 ] Mon, 16 May 2011 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In the Bay Area, winter pruning should be November ot January, and no later.


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❦If you want a golden rule that will fit everything, this is it: Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful or believe to be beautiful ❧ William Morris❦
Re: Gardening Update #1811, or, Bleeding Profusely Again [message #42118 is a reply to message #42047 ] Mon, 16 May 2011 13:58 Go to previous message
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Oh, regarding that floral arch-so as to accomodate seating on either side,

Sounds lovely... I've schemed up arches so many times, but I get hung up on where they lead. Arches are entries to places, even places that lead on to other places, something! Currently I have the absolute perfect rose and/or clematis leading to a stretch of clumpy mud. bleh.
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