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Further experiments in blog usage
Someone says "pie" and we all go on alert, like meercats. "Pie? Where?" - Blackbear
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #2911 is a reply to message #2889 ] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 01:35   |
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Diane in MN Messages: 2733 Registered: October 2008 Location: Twin Cities, MN, USA |
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Why is it too much to ask just to have a few basic things work?
Almost 30 years ago, we--the staff of a small data processing department--were expressing fairly similar sentiments to the XXX Computer Co. rep from whom we had bought new equipment. His response was, and I quote, "You want it all on a silver platter?" What does this tell you about the wonderful world of computers? (And yes, we DID want it all on a silver platter. Especially considering what we had PAID for the new equipment.)
I wonder if whoever answers the phone tomorrow morning at Computer Man Central will scream and run away when he hears my voice?
Not as long as you keep paying the bill.
The despairing mantra I used ironically when the hellhounds were at their worst was ‘a hungry dog will eat’. No it won’t, if it thinks food will give it a stomach-ache, or if it has a stomach-ache already.
In my own experience with both bad eaters and sick dogs, healthy bad eaters will eat enough to stop feeling hungry--which may by no means be enough to keep them in good weight, and may cause you to pull out your hair, but it's enough for them to stay comfortable. Sick dogs might be hungry, but when their noses hit the dish they just look more miserable and turn away. I'm sure there's elements of both going on with the hellhounds. Possibly if you found some new food with no history and started them on it once they get stable, they might be, what--happier? less suspicious?--eaters.
It’s a bit like letting your dog win at tug of war occasionally.
I agree, I've never had a problem result from this, although some trainers insist that one should either refrain from tug of war or insist on winning if you play. I don't think Danes are an especially dominant or hierarchical breed, but I have had two definitely dominant individuals, and neither one has thought that just because she wins at tug-of-war occasionally, that means that she is now in charge. I think they know when you *let* them win, or get bored and stop playing. And they definitely know that you aren't a dog and don't follow the same rules. Dogs are a lot brighter about social interaction than many trainers give them credit for.
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"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #2914 is a reply to message #2911 ] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 01:47   |
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L.R.K. Messages: 1081 Registered: October 2008 Location: Sweden |
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| Diane in MN wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 06:35 | Why is it too much to ask just to have a few basic things work?
Almost 30 years ago, we--the staff of a small data processing department--were expressing fairly similar sentiments to the XXX Computer Co. rep from whom we had bought new equipment. His response was, and I quote, "You want it all on a silver platter?" What does this tell you about the wonderful world of computers? (And yes, we DID want it all on a silver platter. Especially considering what we had PAID for the new equipment.)
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Exactly! And why not?
Some computer people seem to see computers as an end in itself, rather than a means to an end. As when I said to my computer-loving brother that all I wanted from a computer was for it to work all the time and he replied: "But that's not possible!" and I just stared at him and thought "Why not?" There was no point in saying it, and I was too tired anyway.
[Updated on: Thu, 30 October 2008 01:48] Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean, like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #2929 is a reply to message #2927 ] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 05:32   |
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| Susan from Athens wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 09:22 |
when I said to my computer-loving brother that all I wanted from a computer was for it to work all the time and he replied: "But that's not possible!" and I just stared at him and thought "Why not?"
The whole point of flash new technology is surely ONLY that it works
There, there, both of you: you are both delusional.
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but it is such a sensible delusion... ::wails::
[Updated on: Thu, 30 October 2008 05:34] Someone says "pie" and we all go on alert, like meercats. "Pie? Where?" - Blackbear
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Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #2942 is a reply to message #2889 ] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 08:20   |
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"Maybe if you have a very dominant breed you mustn’t do this. I’ve never gone in for very dominant breeds, although I’ve let both Alsatians and Dobermanns win occasional tug of wars and I still have all my body parts. Why not? Let him or her have a little space, have a little way, have it his way occasionally."
I know about the Dog-Whisperer and all of his bag of tricks - must be dominant! Must be ALPHA at all times! - and while I'm perfectly prepared to admit that he may have a point, I just can't do that. Being alpha makes me tired. And, honestly, I've never really had a problem. This is after two years working at a Doggy Day care, with many different breeds. Dobies, rotties, shepherds, pits, all the "problem" breeds.
Although no whippets or lurchers. So I've never seen one run properly, which is very sad. It sounds marvelous.
Speaking as a moderator here, please, please can we avoid the topic of the dog whisperer in any shape or form? PM me if you want a discussion but this is a banned topic from so many forums, and we are trying to be Pollyanna here without violent arguments ...
Many thanks
Southdowner
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Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #2945 is a reply to message #2889 ] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 12:00   |
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Lucy Coats Messages: 223 Registered: October 2008 Location: Northamptonshire, UK |
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| Quote: | Um. No, you don’t know. See above. I don’t know what your dog’s history was but my hellhounds have reason to fear food, especially Chaos.
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I can only hang my head in shame. Knew nothing about the campy bit, nor the rest, so was talking out of my bottom and assuming normalish dog history not delicate hellhound history. Will try very hard not to put foot in mouth again and make comments upon that about which I am ignorant. Am really enjoying blogs/forum, though, even if it is reasonably scary finding so many people who like the same things I do--things that I consider normal, but many of those around me don't.
Lucy xx
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #2948 is a reply to message #2933 ] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 12:53   |
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L.R.K. Messages: 1081 Registered: October 2008 Location: Sweden |
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| Susan from Athens wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 10:50 |
| southdowner wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 11:32 | but it is such a sensible delusion... ::wails::
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Delusions always seem sensible to the deluded, but remain, nevertheless unreachable dreams. Dream on for a land where computers work all the time as they should, particularly when you are under pressure.
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I for one intend to cherish my delusions of a sensible world - and intend to be unreasonably angry whenever I'm proven wrong by a mean, malicious computer misbehaving itself!
Which automatically puts me under pressure, by the way... I remember an occasion at my last job in a library when the computer suddenly decided to take a break. I had one lady on one side explaining something about a book - she had that book at home, but this was a newer edition, and she would borrow this now, and return the other later - while I was trying not to panic - and on the other another lady who also wanted to borrow something. "I just want to borrow this book" (or magazine, or whatever it was). "Yes", I told her, "but that's exactly what I can't do just now" - "Why is the library open then?" she asked. I stared at her. "It happened just now", I said calmly. "Oh, I'm sorry", she said, looked down, and sounded at least a little apologetic...
Not to mention the times when the user is malfunctioning...Once I hit the wrong keys and everything - to my horror - turned upside down! And that time I actually had quite a long queue...Unfortunately I had no idea what I had done, but fortunately the screen was on an arm and could be turned upside down...
[Updated on: Thu, 30 October 2008 13:07] Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean, like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #2949 is a reply to message #2889 ] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 13:47   |
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L.R.K. Messages: 1081 Registered: October 2008 Location: Sweden |
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I found it! It took some looking, but...This is how a car would behave if it was like a computer:
http://www.netlingo.com/more/carsandcomputers.cfm
[Updated on: Thu, 30 October 2008 13:49] Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean, like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #2953 is a reply to message #2911 ] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 15:09   |
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shalea Messages: 781 Registered: October 2008 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina, ... |
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| Diane in MN wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 01:35 | ...Possibly if you found some new food with no history and started them on it once they get stable, they might be, what--happier? less suspicious?--eaters.
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You know, I was wondering this myself. New food, or maybe even new dishes, that don't have the history of making hellhound tummies hurt? (And, perhaps not surprisingly, Firefox's built-in spellchecker isn't happy with the word "hellhound." )
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #2957 is a reply to message #2942 ] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 15:28   |
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| skylark wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 12:20 | This is after two years working at a Doggy Day care, with many different breeds.
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You must have some great doggy stories? Pets are many things, but never boring lol
Someone says "pie" and we all go on alert, like meercats. "Pie? Where?" - Blackbear
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #2966 is a reply to message #2889 ] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 17:46   |
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Julia Messages: 531 Registered: October 2008 Location: Library School |
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Um, so this has nothing to do with the thread, but I didn't know where else I could post this:
| I tried to send this as a forum message thing to Robin, but got an error message saying that it isn't allowed. So here we go. Hopefully she sees it. |
Dear Robin,
I sent you an email just a little while ago, but I know that you mentioned that the website email is not, or was not, working. And I wanted to make sure to thank you- my Kluz Klub card arrived today!
I gushed and blathered enough, more than enough, in the email, so I won't do that here. Just making sure that you get something from me that says thanks.

Hooray.
--Julia
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Please excuse temporary thread derailment, if that is what this is.
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #2987 is a reply to message #2889 ] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 20:58   |
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Loramir Messages: 15 Registered: October 2008 Location: South Carolina, USA |
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We've finally been getting some slightly frosty nights, which in the hot and humid South is saying something. My mom keeps rushing out to cover up her vegetable garden every night.
| Quote: | . . . That reminds me, the second lot of membership cards have only very (embarrassingly) recently gone out.
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It's perfect timing, actually! I got mine today, 2 days before my birthday I was so excited to see it in the mail that I shrieked and scared my poor dog, who was riding in the car with me (her favorite thing to do), to death.
I didn't send an email, as I'm sure Robin gets plenty, so I'll say it here and hope she sees it: Thanks so much! Getting my beautiful membership card totally made my day! (And can I say again that I am seriously in love with the cover painting of Chalice? I would totally hang it on my wall in poster form, if it were available.)
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| Quote: | Perhaps it would be a good idea to have padded klutz club membership cards?
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How about envelopes that somehow can't give you paper cuts? Made of...cloth, perhaps? I always cut myself on envelopes. I managed not to on this one as I used the letter opener, but usually I try to open them with my hands and invariably cut myself.
Loramir
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #3013 is a reply to message #2889 ] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 02:08   |
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erica_an Messages: 15 Registered: October 2008 Location: College Town, USA |
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Diane in MN wrote | Quote: | Why is it too much to ask just to have a few basic things work?
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It's amazing, isn't it? And online technology looks like so much magic until you try putting bits of it together for yourself, in which case it looks, well, like magic involving lots of homework, cursing, and headaches.
I am grateful to the universe for the many people who know more technology than I do. And for cyber fairies, who can mysteriously bless you in moments of computer-related dispair, causing things to work again for no apparent reason. The flip side of that it that I'm very afraid of annoying said cyber fairies.
Erica
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #3045 is a reply to message #2987 ] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 07:56   |
Louiz Messages: 38 Registered: October 2008 Location: London, England |
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| Loramir wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 20:58 |
| Quote: | . . . That reminds me, the second lot of membership cards have only very (embarrassingly) recently gone out.
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I didn't send an email, as I'm sure Robin gets plenty, so I'll say it here and hope she sees it: Thanks so much! Getting my beautiful membership card totally made my day! (And can I say again that I am seriously in love with the cover painting of Chalice? I would totally hang it on my wall in poster form, if it were available.)
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Just really saying yep, me too, and thank you!
Bibliovorous.
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #3056 is a reply to message #2987 ] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 10:44   |
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anne_d Messages: 209 Registered: October 2008 Location: Orange County, California |
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| Loramir wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 17:58 | We've finally been getting some slightly frosty nights, which in the hot and humid South is saying something. My mom keeps rushing out to cover up her vegetable garden every night.
| Quote: | . . . That reminds me, the second lot of membership cards have only very (embarrassingly) recently gone out.
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It's perfect timing, actually! I got mine today, 2 days before my birthday I was so excited to see it in the mail that I shrieked and scared my poor dog, who was riding in the car with me (her favorite thing to do), to death.
I didn't send an email, as I'm sure Robin gets plenty, so I'll say it here and hope she sees it: Thanks so much! Getting my beautiful membership card totally made my day! (And can I say again that I am seriously in love with the cover painting of Chalice? I would totally hang it on my wall in poster form, if it were available.)
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| Quote: | Perhaps it would be a good idea to have padded klutz club membership cards?
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How about envelopes that somehow can't give you paper cuts? Made of...cloth, perhaps? I always cut myself on envelopes. I managed not to on this one as I used the letter opener, but usually I try to open them with my hands and invariably cut myself.
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Me three, thank you, Robin! Now when I trip over a cat toy, I will do it with the full authorization of Klutz Klub membership.
I'm going to put the bookmark in a plastic bookmark sleeve and add a tassel with some charms - probably recycling the bee and goblet (the closest thing I have to a Chalice) from the book thong I was inspired to make earlier. I wonder if the local bead stores still run to dragon charms...
[Updated on: Fri, 31 October 2008 10:44] "The creative urge can come out in any form: in embroidery, in... cooking, in painting, drawing and sculpture, in composing music, as well as in writing books and stories... the artist's inner satisfaction was probably much the same." ~ Agatha Christie
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #3058 is a reply to message #3045 ] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 10:58   |
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shalea Messages: 781 Registered: October 2008 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina, ... |
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| Louiz wrote on Fri, 31 October 2008 07:56 |
| Loramir wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 20:58 |
| Quote: | . . . That reminds me, the second lot of membership cards have only very (embarrassingly) recently gone out.
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I didn't send an email, as I'm sure Robin gets plenty, so I'll say it here and hope she sees it: Thanks so much! Getting my beautiful membership card totally made my day! (And can I say again that I am seriously in love with the cover painting of Chalice? I would totally hang it on my wall in poster form, if it were available.)
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Just really saying yep, me too, and thank you!
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More thanks from here! (My husband picked up the mail yesterday: "Were you expecting any mail from England??")
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #3060 is a reply to message #2962 ] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 11:07   |
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Lucy Coats Messages: 223 Registered: October 2008 Location: Northamptonshire, UK |
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| b_twin_1 wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 20:30 |
| Lucy Coats wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 12:00 |
| Quote: | Um. No, you don’t know. See above. I don’t know what your dog’s history was but my hellhounds have reason to fear food, especially Chaos.
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I can only hang my head in shame. <snip> Will try very hard not to put foot in mouth again and make comments upon that about which I am ignorant.
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Hey Lucy - welcome to the Foot-in-Mouth Club. Been there done that.
Take some time to read some of the past blog (that will keep you busy for a few weeks LOL) and you'll learn all sorts of fascinating stuff! Consider it immune-boosting. 
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Ok. That'll take me a small amount of time, then! Meanwhile, permission to keep posting with mouth and feet firmly in control, please. (This excludes the sort of klutz club foot/mouth moments where I trip over the dinmont and kick myself in an anatomically impossible place).
Lucy xx
"'Thou shalt not' might reach the head, but it takes 'Once upon a time' to reach the heart."
http://www.scribblecitycentral.blogspot.com
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #3087 is a reply to message #3058 ] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 18:54   |
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| shalea wrote on Fri, 31 October 2008 14:58 |
| Louiz wrote on Fri, 31 October 2008 07:56 |
| Loramir wrote on Thu, 30 October 2008 20:58 |
| Quote: | . . . That reminds me, the second lot of membership cards have only very (embarrassingly) recently gone out.
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I didn't send an email, as I'm sure Robin gets plenty, so I'll say it here and hope she sees it: Thanks so much! Getting my beautiful membership card totally made my day! (And can I say again that I am seriously in love with the cover painting of Chalice? I would totally hang it on my wall in poster form, if it were available.)
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Just really saying yep, me too, and thank you!
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More thanks from here! (My husband picked up the mail yesterday: "Were you expecting any mail from England??")
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Yes, more thanks over here. Mine arrived yesterday. Thank you Robin, it's fab!
Don't worry about the dust bunnies, they're just here to guard the treasure.....
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #3195 is a reply to message #2889 ] |
Sun, 02 November 2008 01:09   |
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I posted a klutzim entry, but have not received a card--I wonder if I'm in this second batch or if my entry didn't register somehow? Is there a way to enter again? Maybe I was signed out or something.
Whine.
"And by the way you look fantastic in your boots of Chinese plastic."
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #3319 is a reply to message #3195 ] |
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| ssshunt wrote on Sun, 02 November 2008 01:09 | I posted a klutzim entry, but have not received a card--I wonder if I'm in this second batch or if my entry didn't register somehow? Is there a way to enter again? Maybe I was signed out or something.
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mine must in the second batch too[resigned]
Bonnie Holmes the faster ahead I go, the more behind I get
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #3320 is a reply to message #2889 ] |
Sun, 02 November 2008 19:02   |
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What wimps we are...
"And by the way you look fantastic in your boots of Chinese plastic."
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #3321 is a reply to message #2889 ] |
Sun, 02 November 2008 19:03   |
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you are so right[lol]
Bonnie Holmes the faster ahead I go, the more behind I get
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #3322 is a reply to message #2889 ] |
Sun, 02 November 2008 19:04   |
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*headdesk*
Bonnie Holmes the faster ahead I go, the more behind I get
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #3323 is a reply to message #2889 ] |
Sun, 02 November 2008 19:05   |
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Wimpy klutzim! A new low.
"And by the way you look fantastic in your boots of Chinese plastic."
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| Re: further experiments in blog usage [message #3324 is a reply to message #2889 ] |
Sun, 02 November 2008 19:09   |
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wimpy, wining and waling klutzum,any more w words you could think of that would apply.lol
Bonnie Holmes the faster ahead I go, the more behind I get
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