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Bells! And Whistles!


"The time is always right to do what's right."--MLK Jr.
Re: bells and whistles [message #22685 is a reply to message #22683 ] Thu, 05 November 2009 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But what have I told you about our email novel—?


Ermmm--not enough, obviously!

I'm not too enamored of white rats (nor white anything, really) but I have a friend who's got some lovely ones, one grey like soft charcoal and one a dark glossy brown with light face. Pet rats are utterly charming--sadly short lifespans, though, like most rodents. Not sure I could take the emotional turmoil again of getting attached to animals that only live to age 3...


"The time is always right to do what's right."--MLK Jr.
Re: bells and whistles [message #22687 is a reply to message #22683 ] Thu, 05 November 2009 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow. You made it through the extra-long quarter peal. And the rat-encounter (I didn't think you were so kindly disposed towards rats. But maybe it was only that rat in the garden. [that *was* you, right? Or am I confused? I often am, you know.] I guess the domesticated aspect, in addition to the 'little fuzzy creature which can, in fact, behave in a rather endearing manner' made it okay.)

Yay for you!
Yay for your editor!

Actually, double yay for you, Robin, because on top of everything else, you now are contending with Twitter. Brava! And Facebook, of course. But I understand Facebook.
I just got a Twitter account now and I don't quite get it. Oh well, I can just open my door and ask any one of my friends down the hall, many of whom use Twitter like crazy obsessive people (not judging. Just stating a fact) to explain the thing to me.
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I never realised just what (how much) a quarter peal involves... 1260 soundings of the handbell. Wow.
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both Niall and Colin—who as a wily old tower conductor would have caught on to Niall’s nefarious plan—shouted: Keep going!
What if I’d just said no?

Heehee. What indeed!


Lots of applause and "woohoo-ing" and so on.
Wholehearted admiration.

--Oh, and WHAT is this about an email novel?!

On a side note: Robin, and all the rest of you who have CFS/ME/other horrible nasty unfair miserable unhappy things of a similar ilk/etc... if that is anything close to how these past few days have been, with bouts of ickyness, but mostly just being utterly drained and exhausted, and generally wretched- then I must say I have even greater respect for you than before. Serves me right, I suppose. Last week, my leg hurt but I didn't feel anything like this. "I can't possibly have lyme- not really. I don't feel bad enough!"
How stupid am I. Honestly, now.
I feel quite bad enough now, thank you very much.
And it mostly isn't so terrible for too long. I can't imagine how it must be when it is (if that makes sense).
Don't get concerned now, guys, though I do appreciate it. I am okay. I'm taking the doxycycline and everything. This morning was no fun, though and yesterday was just plain bad.
Re: bells and whistles [message #22690 is a reply to message #22687 ] Thu, 05 November 2009 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I hope you feel better soon, Julia. Sad

I had a white rat for a couple years (too short, Black Bear is right) in grade school. She was left over from a class project where the teacher ordered two rats and we fed one only sugar water, while the other one got a balanced diet.* Then we tracked their weight and observed activity levels, etc. When the project was over, somehow the well-fed rat (Alexis, named by the girls in the class; the boys named theirs MC) ended up going home with me. There she tormented our Schnauzer by her very existence and spent many happy hours nibbling at the wallpaper behind the bathroom radiator. She was also very good at catching flying insects with her front paws.

*This experiment seems rather pointless and cruel to me now, but I was a third-grader then. I certainly hope they don't do it anymore.
Re: bells and whistles [message #22694 is a reply to message #22687 ] Fri, 06 November 2009 00:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I hope the doxycycline kicks in and you start feeling better soon, Julia. By the way, did they warn you that doxycycline makes you photosensitive? That's probably not a major problem at this time of year, but it's something you should know.



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Re: bells and whistles [message #22695 is a reply to message #22683 ] Fri, 06 November 2009 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A friend's daughter had pet rats for a while when she was 8 or 9 and not too thrilled about big dogs. At least one of them was a Dumbo--you guessed it, big ears, which added an extra little cute bonus. They didn't get to run around loose, though.

I’m not sure the hellhounds would be quite such suckers for having their wrists licked however.

I suspect the hellhounds would have said "HA! VERMIN!" and been on them like the proverbial bad suit.

What I don’t know—and I don’t know if I want to know—is if Niall is perennially poised, ready to keep making more calls

This is a dedicated man, yes? What's your best guess? Smile

Dogs learn what they want to learn with breathtaking speed.

Oh gosh, don't they? Especially if it's something you'd just as soon they didn't learn or come to consider as part of Unalterable Routine. They are so good at training us--and we, poor saps, think we're in charge of the curriculum just because we can hold the lead.



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Re: bells and whistles [message #22696 is a reply to message #22694 ] Fri, 06 November 2009 00:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As in that I can't have prolonged exposure to sunlight? Yep, the information sheet thing said that, as did my mother. The mostly cloudy/rainy weather hasn't made that too hard, but the sun was shining the other day and I wanted to sit and enjoy the warmth but I couldn't... which was no fun.
Thanks again for looking out for me, though.

How are you feeling, Diane?
Any better? I hope so!

And thank you, Maren.
Re: bells and whistles [message #22697 is a reply to message #22683 ] Fri, 06 November 2009 05:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, oh! I asked a while back what the official Hellgoddess stance was on PET rats, and now I've got a half blog post's worth of answer. *grins*

I have my own pet rat (see the avatar), though she's not allowed to wander free (much). I do like to freak my mom out most mornings by tucking her in my sweatshirt hood and wandering up for my first cup of coffee with little ears and whiskers poking out. But you're right: rats + dogs = bad news. Our dog isn't allowed in the rat's room, because she starts licking her chops if she even gets a whiff...
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I think rats are cute, except for their tales, which squick me out! Wink
Re: bells and whistles [message #22699 is a reply to message #22683 ] Fri, 06 November 2009 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The daughter had pet mice when she was little - lovely creatures; we missed them when they died! The hamster we had next wasn't nearly so much fun.

E-mail novel??? What e-mail novel???? I'd love to hear more about this.


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Re: bells and whistles [message #22702 is a reply to message #22697 ] Fri, 06 November 2009 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cecelia-
But she is cute!
Hmmm... I may have to rethink this 'no mice, definitely no rats'thing... except they wouldn't be allowed here in my dorm (only "non-meat eating fish") and there is no way my mother would want a rat in the house at home. Bad enough is my brother's gecko. And when, sometime in the hazy, distant future, I get my own place, I have always said that I would get a dog. But maybe I could start with something smaller...
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Black Bear wrote on Thu, 05 November 2009 20:02

...Pet rats are utterly charming--sadly short lifespans, though, like most rodents. Not sure I could take the emotional turmoil again of getting attached to animals that only live to age 3...


Agreed on all counts!
Re: bells and whistles [message #22705 is a reply to message #22702 ] Fri, 06 November 2009 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Julia-

I got her for precisely that reason - I was out on my own, and I had the tiniest apartment imaginable, but I wanted a pet. My brother had one when we were kids, so I knew they were fun and intelligent. And actually, part of the charm was that they don't live long. I'm in my 20s and I don't know what I'll be doing next year, much less in 15 or however long a dog would live. It was a very sound decision, too, because I've just had to move back in with my parents, and bringing anything bigger than a rat into the house would have upset the already delicate situation.

Anyway, best of luck with future pets!
Re: bells and whistles [message #22709 is a reply to message #22683 ] Fri, 06 November 2009 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin says:
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(which is the do ra me fa so la ti do, or do ra me fa so la if you only have six bells, order you begin and end with)


Ummm, isn't that do ti la so fa me ra do ?


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Yes. The age thing really stops me too. But there's a strong attraction to something warm, furry AND THAT CAN GET ITS EXERCISE RUNNING AROUND THE FLOOR OF MY OFFICE AND PULLING ON MY JEANS WHEN IT WANTS TO BE PICKED UP.

(Yes I know this would require a little *picking up after* . . . although rats are known to be bright, I don't suppose they're litter box trainable?)
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Yes. I have complained about large ugly undomesticated rats on the premises. I do NOT like wild rats of any (known) sort.
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About ME: yes. When I was first diagnosed with glandular fever (mono) I was *relieved*. Oh, it's just mono again, I've had mono before.

And then it became ME.

Mind you, I have what passes for *an extremely mild case.*

It's still a total compost-sucking ratbag.
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Golly. If pet rats would take care of my WASP problem I'd buy a couple tomorrow.
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Diane in MN wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 00:42

A friend's daughter had pet rats for a while when she was 8 or 9 and not too thrilled about big dogs. At least one of them was a Dumbo--you guessed it, big ears, which added an extra little cute bonus. They didn't get to run around loose, though.

********* Yes. Penelope told me there were 'dumbos' and I thought she was JOKING. Ginger-streaked albino Hooded Rats are quite enough really.

I’m not sure the hellhounds would be quite such suckers for having their wrists licked however.

I suspect the hellhounds would have said "HA! VERMIN!" and been on them like the proverbial bad suit.

********** Yes. I suspect this is one of those things they have to learn from infancy . . . and you STILL don't want to leave them unsupervised.

What I don’t know—and I don’t know if I want to know—is if Niall is perennially poised, ready to keep making more calls

This is a dedicated man, yes? What's your best guess? :)

************ 'Dedicated'? You mean 'obsessive nutso'? Well . . . :)

Dogs learn what they want to learn with breathtaking speed.

Oh gosh, don't they? Especially if it's something you'd just as soon they didn't learn or come to consider as part of Unalterable Routine. They are so good at training us--and we, poor saps, think we're in charge of the curriculum just because we can hold the lead.

************* Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes. See today about sofa time. . . .



Re: bells and whistles [message #22719 is a reply to message #22717 ] Fri, 06 November 2009 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, the insects had to be stupid and slow enough to be down at her level in the first place. Moths were her favorite because they provided a larger target area. Smile
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Oh, but I like geckos! And if he's managing to keep it alive he's taking good care of it!
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Yes. Sigh. I was trying to get th order thing and felt that saying it backwards would be confusing . . . I do this late at night you know. . . .
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Well, yes. It is rather cool. But I had to feed it over the summer for a few days when everyone else went away, and that was harder than I thought. It took me a while to bring myself to dump the right number of living crickets into the cage thing... especially when they refused to fall out of the tube and into the cage. Same reason as why I could never have a snake... I quite like them, but I couldn't bring myself to feed one.
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Oh, the joys of live food... I feel a frogblog coming on.... Smile


"The time is always right to do what's right."--MLK Jr.
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Robin wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 19:55

Yes. The age thing really stops me too. But there's a strong attraction to something warm, furry AND THAT CAN GET ITS EXERCISE RUNNING AROUND THE FLOOR OF MY OFFICE AND PULLING ON MY JEANS WHEN IT WANTS TO BE PICKED UP.

(Yes I know this would require a little *picking up after* . . . although rats are known to be bright, I don't suppose they're litter box trainable?)


Sounds like what you really want is a ferret. Wink


Smooshes!
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Somehow I knew that was coming... Smile
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Diane: Not only should you be careful about direct sunlight - reflected off of pavement can be as bad. Once when I was being dosed with a sensitizer, I got fried walking across a parking lot - with a HUGE hat on!


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Julia wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 20:43

Somehow I knew that was coming... :)


She could put a ferret in a harness and leash and take him on hurtles across the countryside, too. (And if he gets too tuckered out, carrying a sleeping 3lb ferret isn't exactly burdensome.)

*enables just a little* ;)


Smooshes!
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You'll stop at nothing. Not only are you the resident preeminent yarn virus, you are also a ferret-enabler.* Ah, well. Makes life interesting.

*That isn't quite right. I spent a few minutes staring into space trying to think of a better term, but to no avail. I'm sure someone else can come up with something more fitting.

And now, after prolonged exposure to ferret/Jodi mindcontrol, I must add ferrets to 'possible eventual pet' list. I can hear you "bwahaha-ing"
Smile

[Updated on: Fri, 06 November 2009 22:04]

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Thanks for asking, Julia, much better, thank goodness. We are supposed to have a nice Indian summer weekend, and I have to get out and do yardwork.



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Julia wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 10:13

Cecelia-
But she is cute!
Hmmm... I may have to rethink this 'no mice, definitely no rats'thing... except they wouldn't be allowed here in my dorm (only "non-meat eating fish")


??? Is this meant to discourage you from keeping piranhas??



"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
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Black Bear wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 19:27

Oh, the joys of live food... I feel a frogblog coming on.... Smile


Speaking of live food . . . I have a friend who raises snakes (corn snakes for pets), and she described meeting a guy who raises rats for the snake-food market. He has a couple of houses with metal-lined floors and walls, and that's where he raises the rats. I have to say that "EWWW GROSS" was my response to the mental image this produced.

Frogblog, good idea!



"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
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Good. I'm glad that you are feeling better.

We used to joke about piranhas, actually.
Who knows what the administration is thinking...
Not us! (and that goes for more than anti-piranha regulations)

Smile
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Julia wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 02:07

Good. I'm glad that you are feeling better.

We used to joke about piranhas, actually.
Who knows what the administration is thinking...
Not us! (and that goes for more than anti-piranha regulations)

Smile


Admin probably don't want students breeding up live feed (ie. meat) for meat-eating fish... Wink


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Diane--frogblog is on the way!

re: the non-meat-eating fish, I suspect that yes, what they're trying to prevent is kids having tanks of piranha or oscars in their rooms. They're pretty popular fish on college campuses because they're large (therefore exciting) and have a certain gross-out factor since they eat live food. My suspicion is that the issue is not the fish themselves, but the inevitable consequences of keeping the food itself in the dorm. Crickets are escape artists, for one, and having an infestation of crickets in a dorm building is NOT something a college wants to deal with. I'm sure that small carnivorous fish (like, say, tetras--which are cousins to piranha) aren't an issue, because they eat flakes and frozen stuff... Smile


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I'M RESISTING ACKNOWLEDGING THE PLAUSIBILITY OF THIS SCENARIO.
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YES! yes yes yes yes yes YES!!!!! NEEEEED frogblog!
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Yes, and so far as I can tell, Hampshire is the Ferret Capital of southern England. GO AWAY, ALL OF YOU.
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