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| Pegasus [message #15930] |
Sun, 10 May 2009 19:54  |
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Pegasus
Smooshes!
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| Re: Pegasus [message #15942 is a reply to message #15930 ] |
Sun, 10 May 2009 22:27  |
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I have to say - us pathetically patient fans are really glad you're in such a frenzy. Then again, if it feels rushed, we'll be disappointed. Life is filled with sticky problems, isn't it? But we have faith in you that hasn't been disappointed yet. Anyone who writes Sunshine must have genius in there somewhere. So press on - be encouraged - enjoy the panic? We can't wait. 
And, a question...does it take lots of drafts to get a story done? Everyone seems to write differently - for my poetry, I tend to ruin it with drafts if I'm not very careful, and some just are better left alone - and I was curious as to how many you do. If you do any routine at all.
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| Re: Pegasus [message #15947 is a reply to message #15930 ] |
Mon, 11 May 2009 04:20 |
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 Diane in MN
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About a month ago I decided I couldn’t do it in one book: so perforce I’m going to be writing a real sequel for the first time in my life . . . well, sort of. It’s going to be a sequel like THE RETURN OF THE KING is a sequel to THE TWO TOWERS.
Ah, PEGASUS will be a novel in two volumes--all the more to look forward to!
And have I told you how I read LOTR for the first time? That my best-friend-in-seventh-grade’s brother was giving it to her one volume at a time, over the course of birthday-Christmas-birthday? So there was months to wait in between?
I was in high school and picked up the paperback TWO TOWERS, then had to hunt around for THE FELLOWSHIP as well as wait for RETURN OF THE KING. When I found out that my four-years-older brother had read LOTR some time earlier and not thought to mention it to me, I was seriously ticked.
it was a wretched horrible first draft page that tells the heroine something she didn’t know and casts a very long retroactive shadow–that I, the miserable scribe, am going to have to go back and crosshatch in.
Obviously the Story Council is acting up and wants to make it a challenge for you.
"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
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| Re: Pegasus [message #15952 is a reply to message #15951 ] |
Mon, 11 May 2009 08:47 |
b_twin_1
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| Krystolla wrote on Mon, 11 May 2009 08:01 |
There's only one thing to do: Start calling it the Pegasus Trilogy and hope for the best.
*evil grin*
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Gosh, you had better watch out.... you may have to wash your mouth out! hahahaha
I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel ~ Blackadder
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| Re: Pegasus [message #15959 is a reply to message #15930 ] |
Mon, 11 May 2009 14:02 |
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Mrs Redboots
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I do agree - who made it be May already, and not only May, but nearly mid-May?! We have the biggest competition of the year in just over three weeks, and leave on holiday in a fortnight! Help! Ready? Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha.....
I watched the Mendelssohn "Dream" on television last night (it was on behind the red button, and will be available on BBC iPlayer until the end of May - not sure whether that applies outside the UK, though). It was fabulous! Loved it. I especially loved the "Puck", who reminded me of Puck in Kipling, rather than some interpretations I've seen. Oh, and I am in love with Nick Bottom (just call me Titania!).
Mrs Redboots
I love my computer because my friends live in it!
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| Re: Pegasus [message #15962 is a reply to message #15930 ] |
Mon, 11 May 2009 18:11 |
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JaimeLee
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After months of Jodi urging me to register for Robin's forum, I finally did. This is either a sign that the apocalypse is rapidly approaching or that I'm nearing the middle of the novel I'm writing, and thus need more things to do in order to avoid writing.
Plus, so many of Robin's blog posts leave me helpless with laughter, it's probably time I told her and not gush at Jodi over them. There is a lot of self-recognition as a writer in some of what Robin writes and even more utter jealousy over her gardens. And then there is the fan girl part that loves her books...
So yeah, I'm new here. I will try not to trip over my feet too much or say anything that causes mouths to fall open in horror. I can't promise, but I will try. This is actually my first time getting into a fan forum. Writing is somewhat all consuming, in a forget to come up for air and notice the larger world way. I can already see that I'm much too serious and earnest.
I'll work on that too.
That's enough of an introduction, probably too much of one. I'll lurk now until I think of something profound to say.
That I might drink, and leave the world unseen,
And with thee fade away into the forest dim...
John Keats
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| Re: Pegasus [message #16002 is a reply to message #15967 ] |
Tue, 12 May 2009 11:32 |
Jeanne Marie
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| Robin wrote on Mon, 11 May 2009 18:30 |
Oh! Please de-delete the long annoyed comment!!!
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Well...since you ask...
We begin with some background. The Symphony Chorus that I sing with underwent a directorship change this past summer that was FRAUGHT with tension and theatrics for many, many reasons. The new director, Herr, has a national reputation as a brilliant choral conductor, has won two grammy awards for recordings his other two choral groups have done - and, also has a reputation here in town of being a Holy Terror to work with. Now, in this past year, I have actually only seen a few little signs of the Holy Terror coming out in rehearsals. And, I will also admit that the vast majority of his work with us has been very, very good - he fixed some long-standing intonation issues, and got the chorus to listen across the ensemble, which had been a real problem in the past. So, allow me to give credit to Herr for those accomplishments.
Then, we come to LOTR. We found out rather late in the season that we were singing it. (the first dress rehearsal for the Mendlessohn concert, actually, was when we were told that yes, we had the LOTR gig. That was in mid-February.) I'll also note that one of Herr's other choral groups had a performance the Sunday before out LOTR performance, and they were doing lots of newly commissioned world premier music. So, perhaps there was some competition for Herr's attention happening.
Herr wasn't able to be there for the very first rehearsal of LOTR, so we had with us Cherub, the new Assistant Conductor of the Symphony, who stepped in that night (and who is so stinking cute that you have to mightily resist the urge to pinch his little cheeks). Cherub immediately had a grasp of the importance of things like DYNAMICS, and asked for them right off the mark, especially in the easier passages of the score. He took tempos very close to the mark, and clearly indicated tempo changes, and demanded that we respond to those tempo changes. Cherub, I'll note, is also a LOTR fan, and talked about his finance's reaction to his spending 5 hours or so watching the movies. We left rehearsal having sung through 5 of the 6 movements, and with a burgeoning sense of the intensity of the music, and what we as singers would need to do to bring it to life.
The, Herr stepped back in the following week.
The immediately obvious problem was that he was not just completely unfamiliar with LOTR, but he had no respect for the genre, either the fantasy genre of the literature or the movie genre of the score. This disrespect was painfully obvious. It was further obvious that he had neither interest in nor intention of doing any score study, in order to determine what might be happening during various points of the score, or checking pronunciation of the elvish language we were singing (a pronunciation guide was given to us). He further ignored or ridiculed (yes, actually ridiculed) people who tried to either tried to offer explanations of what was happening in the score/movie or tried to wave the pronunciation guide at him when text questions came up.
This disrespect for the genre and the music translated into ignoring some very basic musical things - LIKE ALL THE CLEARLY MARKED TEMPOS!! I was LIVID that we did not take anything to the scored tempo until the performance conductor arrived three days before the first performance!! And, it's not like we didn't mention this to Herr, either! I and the second soprano section leader made a point of mentioning a particularly obvious tempo change that he was consistently ignoring, and he said "I know, I'm not taking it to tempo." The next question is "AND WHY NOT, %$^&(%#$#%$???"
And, he ignored the dynamics through most of it. Not all of it, but most of it, especially the easier sections, where the dynamics were most important.
Now, the score itself is very tricky - there are lots of chord clusters (you'd like them, Robin, very crunchy), and Herr did spend some time on the more difficult ones, trying to get a sense of where the dissonances fit. But, as a chorus, we never, in my opinion, respected or polished the piece, and I think that proved to be disastrous. Herr simply didn't spend much time on a great deal of the 'easier' music, which then was flubbed in performance. Herr choice to ignore the notation, never rehearsing the sections that were marked 144 to the quarter note at that tempo proved disastrous when the adjustment from Herr's rehearsal tempo (a light andante, say 72 to the quarter) to the actual marked tempo was difficult to make. I was embarrassed for the Symphony Chorus!!
But, truly, I think the worst thing was Herrr's disrespect of the music. I don't ask that he be a fan of LOTR, or that he have spent time watching the movies, even. But, if he's being PAID to prepare the chorus for a performance of the score, then he FRELLING WELL BETTER STUDY THE FRELLING SCORE, which includes knowing what happens when, taking things to tempo and following dynamics!!
Herr has verbally asked that we complete some kind of evaluation form for him, and that we be honest so that he can improve. I'm looking forward to that opportunity.
Still Snarling About It All,
Jeanne Marie
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| Re: Pegasus [message #16016 is a reply to message #15930 ] |
Tue, 12 May 2009 17:18 |
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L.R.K.
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Oh Jeanne Marie! that sounds just awful! I don't understand the niceties of music, but I do understand the aggravation and frustration! I'm glad you still managed to enjoy the experience - but he really ruined something that could have been pure joy, right? Well, at least you will get an opportunity to express your feelings - I'm a LOTR fan, of course (love the music, especially some of the Elvish sections - it's slightly funny that one of my absolute favourite sections is the one with Arwen where she leaves, although I dislike that she does so and I always make a point of telling anyone I've managed to lure into watching the film with me that she will come back - because she shouldn't have gone anywhere in the first place!) - um where was I? Oh, yes - I mean even if I hadn't been a fan, I still would have thought it was disrespectful of him - after all, one should try to do any job that one does seriously and well - else why bother at all?
Also, is there anywhere one could see your performance - is it up- or down- or whatever loaded anywhere? I'd love to see/hear it!
[Updated on: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:20]
Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean, like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.
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| Re: Pegasus [message #16048 is a reply to message #16000 ] |
Wed, 13 May 2009 00:56 |
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Diane in MN
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| shalea wrote on Tue, 12 May 2009 10:15 |
| Robin wrote on Mon, 11 May 2009 19:31 |
If the day were only forty hours long and the energy level 150%, the balance between novel-writing and blog-writing (and music-writing) would be splendid. Interesting and flexible and fluid and blah and blah...
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I really sincerely doubt it. I suspect that instead, rather like books and bookshelves, the amount of activities would expand to overfill the available time. Of course, this may apply only to my life, but I think otherwise. 
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It's universal, alas--remember Parkinson's Law.
"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
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