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Dawn of color TV [message #13565] Wed, 25 March 2009 04:22 Go to next message
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I was contemplating the black&white e-ink screen of my Cybook e-reader, which is perfectly functional and fine with me. However, I suspect many people born since 1980 consider an electronic device without color to be unthinkable. Which brought me to considering color TV.

For those who remember its introduction, was it a memorable enough experience that you can still say what you first watched in color?

I vividly remember two experiences. I babysat for our upstairs neighbors, who had a newfangled color set, as well as a very young baby who generally obligingly slept all the time I was there, leaving me free to watch. Once, The Mouse That Roared was broadcast, and I phoned my brother to come upstairs so he could enjoy it in color too. And then some antic of Peter Sellers was so funny that we laughed so loud we woke up baby Stiles, and I had to miss the next half hour or more, cuddling him back to sleep.

Even more memorable was the civic educational trip our Scout troop took to the state capitol. Our troop leader, an Air Force wife, managed to arrange for us to stay overnight on the nearby Air Force base, parceled out among the married officers. My two best friends and I were indulgently allowed by our hosts to watch The Man From U.N.C.L.E., and we were absolutely agog to see our heroes in color. And then the episode turned out to be the pilot for The GIRL from U.N.C.L.E., and Napoleon and Ilya appeared for a grand total of maybe two minutes, while this stupid woman with glow-in-the-dark lipstick hogged the rest of the show! Now, if she had actually been a girl, some exceptional teen-age spy, that might have been interesting. But the woman from uncle was a total waste.

Obviously my attention was not caught at the time by any shows of great philosophical or social importance! But hey, I was maybe 15. Anybody else remember when we started watching TV in color?

Abigail

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Re: Dawn of color TV [message #13567 is a reply to message #13565 ] Wed, 25 March 2009 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not sure if this is accurate or not, but when I hitch-hiked around New Zealand for three months in the summer of 1974-75, colour tv was appearing there then, whereas it had yet to appear in Australia. I stayed occasionally with friends I'd made at a camp a couple of years previously, in between the Youth Hostels, so I THINK I got to see colour tv then. One of many instances of NZ being ahead of the field, with Australia trailling.
Mind you, I didn't have the habit of tv, as we didn't have one at home until I'd finished high school. My father occasionally hired a tv for the summer to watch the cricket, but it always went back to the shop when school started, as Dad had strong feelings about its distracting influence, and my known lack of self-discipline when it came to reading, so what would a tv do??!. My parents bought a tv when I started university, but I was hardly ever home then, so didn't get to see it much.
Assuming this isn't all a figurement of my imagination (I can't remember what happened five minutes ago, let alone over 30 years ago!), I have absolutely no recollection of any particular shows.
Re: Dawn of color TV [message #13568 is a reply to message #13567 ] Wed, 25 March 2009 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Susan in Melbourne wrote on Wed, 25 March 2009 04:48


Mind you, I didn't have the habit of tv, as we didn't have one at home until I'd finished high school.



Ha. I had felt somewhat deprived because we didn't have a TV till I was in grade school, while my school-friends and also my cousins had all watched Captain Kangaroo and the other Saturday-morning shows as toddlers. Now I learn that even our family was advanced compared to other places.

For a while in my thirties and I spent several hours a day watching. Now I no longer own a set, and I can't imagine how my friends who chatter about their favorite shows ever get anything done. Time's a'wasting, and I surely can't afford to spend it in front of the tube anymore. Of course, I make up for it in front of the computer ...
Re: Dawn of color TV [message #13580 is a reply to message #13565 ] Wed, 25 March 2009 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't remember the first time seeing colour tv, but I have a fuzzy recollection of us having a black-and-white tv when I was very small. (I'm born in 1971)

As for bitter tv-memories - we weren't allowed to watch How the West Was Won because it was after our bedtime - while everybody else in my class had seen it, thus leaving me completely out of any and every discussion about it. We even played The Macahans and my friend was Aunt Molly and I was just a nameless friend of hers and had no idea what was going on...needless to say, this still rankles... (Sigh...sob...snivel...)


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Re: Dawn of color TV [message #13589 is a reply to message #13565 ] Wed, 25 March 2009 18:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, the first I remember is that one of the neighbors had a "color TV" that involved tricolored cellophane across the screen. The top third was blue, the middle a pinkish tint, and the bottom third green. As for specific programs, I remember being startled to see a showing of Star Trek at the university. I had no idea they wore different colored shirts! Oh, and the Wizard of Oz changed from black-and-white to color when Dorothy got to Oz.
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The Oz switch blew my young mind, even though we had color TV.


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Re: Dawn of color TV [message #13603 is a reply to message #13565 ] Wed, 25 March 2009 20:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't remember when I first saw color TV ... it was someone else's, that much I know.

I also know that I never saw UNCLE or Star Trek in color. Seeing them in VHS was a very strange experience, as they lived in a black and white world as far as I knew.

When I was really little ( pre 1952) we were the only family on our street who had a TV.

We were also the first to have hi-fi and stereo (my Dad built his own in those days).

Later Dad decided that TV was awful and we didn't have one until something about football or baseball drove him to get another. I think that perhaps it was a sporting event I first saw in color. I had moved out by that time. I was not impressed. I still am not impressed. Reading works best for me.

Soon after my brother settled down to a real job etc. he became a recycler of nearly dead TV sets. Eventually he had four, with only the one on the top of the stack working.

Thirty years later he has developed a habit of winning the company golf tournament, and the prize is always a TV! Now he's gotten into the habit of being the one to give them away. I think he eventually gave my school four.


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Re: Dawn of color TV [message #13715 is a reply to message #13603 ] Fri, 27 March 2009 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does it count that I remember seeing my first color _computer_ screen? I started in two tone, orange on black. I used that half way through University. I recycled it in 1990, long after color was 'the thing'. But hey, I didn't have internet or viruses on Old Faithful and he always booted up.
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Hey, remember color wasn't the Thing for us Macintosh users until about 1995 or so! Smile I still sometimes miss the sleek elegance of the grey tones on my first Mac....


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I was in elementary school when black and white TV became available. (We didn't have a TV until after I had left home.) My color TV memory is a chat I had with a friend who told me that they were going to wait to get one until color was available. I was impressed. Yes, I am from the dinosaur age when recorded music was on 78's and radio was the mass medium.
Re: Dawn of color TV [message #14190 is a reply to message #13565 ] Fri, 03 April 2009 22:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I find it interesting that I really can't remember. I'm pretty sure that when I was in early elementary school, we had a black and white TV (Gilligan's Island, Lost in Space, and Dark Shadows were my after school viewing.) I think we got color TV around the early 70s - Batman in color! and Laugh-In when my parents were out and we had a babysitter. Smile


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Rebecca WinkleBeam wrote on Fri, 27 March 2009 14:02

Does it count that I remember seeing my first color _computer_ screen? I started in two tone, orange on black. I used that half way through University. I recycled it in 1990, long after color was 'the thing'. But hey, I didn't have internet or viruses on Old Faithful and he always booted up.


I well remember 16 blazing colors on screen when IBM introduced its CGA monitor in the mid-80s. Exciting stuff. Boy, you could sure make some ug-lee graphs with those colors.

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Re: Dawn of color TV [message #14416 is a reply to message #14365 ] Tue, 07 April 2009 03:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blogmom wrote on Mon, 06 April 2009 10:10



-- Karen "I remember punchcards. And DOS." Blogmom



When I was maybe a sophomore at Pomona College, the Botany Department was the proud owner of a Hewlett Packard calculator that was the size of a typewriter, and made stacks of punch-cards for complex calculations. I don't remember, it may have been like an adding machine with paper tape for simple arithmetic.

A couple of years later, my brother was the center of fascinated attention from me and all my cousins at Christmas, with an HP pocket-sized calculator, that did all the things that desk-size unit could do, plus it could store sixty-four steps! of program in its internal memory!

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Re: Dawn of color TV [message #14501 is a reply to message #14365 ] Wed, 08 April 2009 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blogmom wrote on Mon, 06 April 2009 18:10


-- Karen "I remember punchcards. And DOS." Blogmom


I remember punchcards. I remember my father's lab at the University of Athens had a computer that was the size of a huge room. Their used punch cards (a few stacks of which we still have) were the re-usable paper notecards / drawing material / listmaking stationery of my childhood and continued to be used for a very long time. Hey I was a re-user re-cycler before it was fashionable.

I remember my father's HP calculator with the 10-programmable steps. I still have it and, funnily enough, it still works. Then in the early eighties my brother had a ZX Spectrum computer.

I did, at one stage in my life learn to programme in Basic and Fortran (don't ask me - I don't remember a thing) and I still have the occasional nightmare in which DOS makes an appearance.

I remember when we first saw colour TV. It was in England, where we were visiting my grandmother and rented a set for the duration of our visit. The green of the cricket pitches was shocking. Colour TV only arrived in Greece in 1977, and it took a further 9 years before it made an appearance in our household. But black and white was fine. We saw a lot of old films at that time and they were never in colour, in any case. I love the silvery shades of vintage Laurel and Hardy, and silent shorts.

We cling to our old appliances in my family, with a vigour that few others could understand. My mother still cooks with the old English Electric cooker she bought when she got married in 1963. It works just fine, so we've had no reason to replace it Smile


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I'll match your Basic and Fortran and raise you a Cobol and Pascal. Smile

Aah, the good old days.


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Susan from Athens wrote on Wed, 08 April 2009 08:44


We cling to our old appliances in my family, with a vigour that few others could understand. My mother still cooks with the old English Electric cooker she bought when she got married in 1963. It works just fine, so we've had no reason to replace it Smile


Oh, I understand!

In the eighties, my mother and I went together to buy a sewing machine that did various zigzag stitches and other acrobatic things like that. But neither of us really liked it, and it languished. She much preferred the little old green Elna that all my clothes were made on till I left for college, and many even after. It was her machine since before I can remember, and probably since before I was born, and that was 58 yrs ago. As you say, it still works fine.

The old Revere pressure cooker has retired, however. They no longer make rubber gaskets to fit it.

According to my cousin, her older brother once made a remark about "growing up in the Depression." His mother said, "What Depression did you grow up in?" He replied, "The same one you did."

Good bit of truth in that.

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When I was in high school we were in a very high tech area ... Bell Labs, various pharmaceutical and chemical cos. ... in New Jersey and we got huge cartons of the punched out bits from punch cards to use as confetti at football games. Those sharp little edges could hurt.

Many years later mylar tape was the thing used to control machine tools and living in a town with many machine tool companies used tape was easy to come by. I used it to keep the deer out of my garden.

I would never have believed that there were computers in my future.

Does anyone else remember seeing the ENIAC on TV?


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Susan from Athens wrote on Wed, 08 April 2009 08:44

We cling to our old appliances in my family, with a vigour that few others could understand. My mother still cooks with the old English Electric cooker she bought when she got married in 1963. It works just fine, so we've had no reason to replace it Smile


My mother used an old 50s vintage Mixmaster mixer for decades. My father always commented on her wonderful cheesecake (Germans can't cook but they can bake) with the red flecks that made it so special. It wasn't until years later that it registered on us that the red flecks were paint off the old mixer...

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As a small child I had a collection of punch cards that Dad brought home from work. Objective: As many different colors and patterns as possible. However, I myself never graduated from simple Fortran programs via teletype to the advanced jobs that required punch cards. That teletype was pretty nifty, though. I liked the conversational feel of the computer typing back to you.
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I think I was in my teens when I first saw colour television. But as that is rather a long time ago, it's difficult to be sure. Smile I do remember being enthralled by the nature programmes that suddenly seemed so much more vivid (though it's surprising what the brain can unconsciously 'fill in' when one knows what colour a creature or plant is).

And if, in future, you want your life in full and instantly accessible colour: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7997961.stm!


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Susan in Melbourne wrote on Wed, 25 March 2009 22:48

I'm not sure if this is accurate or not, but when I hitch-hiked around New Zealand for three months in the summer of 1974-75, colour tv was appearing there then, whereas it had yet to appear in Australia.


I hope this doesnt make you feel old Susan, but this concurs with my memory of when I first remember seeing colour TV, except I was 5 in 1974!

But yes, here in NZ we got our first colour TV when I was 5 or 6 I think, it was a PYE vidmatic, and back in those days we only had 2 channels.
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BlueRose wrote on Thu, 16 April 2009 04:10

and back in those days we only had 2 channels.


But what was ON those two channels was probably as good quality (not in special effects but in "worth spending time on") as the total of any twenty channels today.

Maybe that's just a self-righteous "sour grapes" comment. But I no longer have a working TV, and I miss it not at all.

Abigail
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abigailmm wrote on Fri, 17 April 2009 02:47


But what was ON those two channels was probably as good quality (not in special effects but in "worth spending time on") as the total of any twenty channels today.



Judging from the activity over on "what are you watching?" I'd say there must be a fair amount of worthwhile TV out there these days. Smile I don't watch much myself, but it's not because I don't think there's good programming on if I want it--I can always find something edifying on days when I'm sick and want to couch surf.

And my parents got a color TV back in 1968 or so, for the sole purpose (I'm told) of watching Star Trek in all its candy-bright glory. Also probably The Avengers, come to think of it. But we still had a b/w unit well into my childhood.


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OK guys..I was born---long, long ago, but in our own galaxy. My father worked for General Electric so we always had a T.V. (And a dishwasher.) I watched "Mighty Mouse" on Saturday mornings, and Had to tell my older brother when "American Bandstand" started. Those were black-and-white days. However, I do remember having the neighbors over to watch something IN COLOR! I thought it was the "Wizard of Oz", but my mother seems to think it was something else. Whatever. 1959, Longview, Washington.


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