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First McKinley Book?[ 127 vote(s) ]
1.Beauty 33 / 26%
2.Door in the Hedge 0 / 0%
3.Blue Sword 37 / 29%
4.Hero and the Crown 36 / 28%
5.Outlaws of Sherwood 3 / 2%
6.Deerskin 7 / 6%
7.Rose Daughter 2 / 2%
8.Spindle's End 6 / 5%
9.Sunshine 3 / 2%
10.Water 0 / 0%
11.Dragonhaven 0 / 0%
12.Chalice 0 / 0%
13.A Knot in the Grain 0 / 0%

In light of the discussion on a blog post thread regarding what we'd like (or not like!) in a third Damar book, should there be one, I thought it might be interesting to see how most of us came to Robin's work in the first place--was Damar the entry point for the majority of people who now like Robin's work enough to join her forum? Or is it more across the board?

So, tell us! It doesn't necessarily have to be the first book of hers you ever read, but the one that made you think "Hmm, this McKinley--I'd better see what else she's got on the shelf!" Smile We've got another thread for talking about your favorite books, so please don't get into involved discussion here--this is just a straight up, what-was-your-gateway-book poll.

[Updated on: Sun, 15 March 2009 21:18]


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Re: First McKinley Book? [message #12686 is a reply to message #12685 ] Mon, 09 March 2009 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm pretty sure it was Sword and not Hero.
Re: First McKinley Book? [message #12689 is a reply to message #12685 ] Mon, 09 March 2009 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And I still have my paperback copy of Beauty from 1979.


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Re: First McKinley Book? [message #12696 is a reply to message #12685 ] Mon, 09 March 2009 21:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I practically adopted my school library's copy of Beauty. The card in back was full of my name, from my borrowing it over and over and...


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Re: First McKinley Book? [message #12704 is a reply to message #12685 ] Tue, 10 March 2009 02:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My 6th grade English teacher wouldn't accept the deliberately fluffy book I'd chosen for a book report, and sent me off to the library to find something else. The librarian gave me HERO (which I promptly followed with SWORD). The rest is history. Smile Yay for that teacher and that librarian!
Re: First McKinley Book? [message #12706 is a reply to message #12685 ] Tue, 10 March 2009 04:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just voted Hero and smacked my head with my hand because no, it was Blue Sword. A long time ago. Then Beauty and Hero, as I found them. Finding any author in those days was very hard in Greece. That is, I think, where I developed the instincts of a terrier when it comes to books and authors I like. I always check the Ms in a bookshop for McKinley. I still do it - instinct and habit - even though I know now when Robin has a new book out.


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Re: First McKinley Book? [message #12708 is a reply to message #12706 ] Tue, 10 March 2009 05:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I still remember the moment I found Sword. I was shelving books when I found one with a picture of a HORSE on the cover. My name was the first on the card and I even got special permission to take it home for the summer. When I moved on to High School I arrange to have it on loan from the middle school so I could read it again.
Re: First McKinley Book? [message #12710 is a reply to message #12685 ] Tue, 10 March 2009 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My first McKinley book was Outlaws. I was on a King Arthur kick... oh, freshman year of high school? Maybe? Probably a little earlier. And right at eye-level in the library was this book called Outlaws of Sherwood. Robin Hood is in England, Arthur is in England, and I was getting near the end of the Arthur books that I could find easily. So I got it. (By the way, I thought it was kinda cool that a book about Robin Hood was written by a person named Robin... yeah, it was definately during junior high...)

And I loved it. It was about real people, unlike other Robin Hoods I had read. Though, to be fair, I hadn't looked too hard for books about Robin Hood. So I started reading some of her other stuff, Hero, Beauty, etc. And I haven't really stopped since.
Re: First McKinley Book? [message #12726 is a reply to message #12685 ] Tue, 10 March 2009 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My first McKinley book was Rose Daughter, I believe I was 11 or so at the time I read it. I had a rose obsession for most of my youth as well as love of mythology and fairy tales and it was about the time I was getting frustrated with the lack of girls who actually DID stuff (I had/have an especial fondness for any fairy tale where a girl got to wave something sharp and shiny around, but I thought it was rather unfair that she usually had to pretend to be a guy to do it). It was Valentine's day and my mother did and still does like to give us (my brothers and me) a little something on Valentine's day. I remember being asleep and she came into my bedroom, laid Rose Daughter next to my pillow and kissed me on the forehead. I woke up enough to thank her and tell her that I loved her before I fell back asleep (I have and will never be a morning person)and promptly woke up an hour later with something sharp poking me in the face. I read the back and the inscription written by my mother and began to read it. Between McKinley and Pierce (Tamora) my tendency to like books about girls who do stuff became my favorite genre. Unfortunately only two years later my copy of Rose Daughter with my mother's message was stolen out of my backpack (I'm still pretty upset about that) and it took me years to buy a replacement copy because a new copy would never be the same as the old copy.
Re: First McKinley Book? [message #13027 is a reply to message #12685 ] Sun, 15 March 2009 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ahem. What about A Knot in the Grain? I'm pretty sure that was my first McKinley.... unless it was Beauty.... and I never made the connection that they were by one particular person until Hero (probably because then I was finally old enough to notice there were authors and not just titles on these things I kept reading).
Re: First McKinley Book? [message #13041 is a reply to message #12685 ] Sun, 15 March 2009 21:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It was Hero, but I can't remember when that was now. I remember deliberately deciding to read Hero because it took place before Sword and I wanted to read them in order. Can't remember if that was Junior High or High School though. It took me a while to get into the others-I wasn't big into fairy tale retellings for a while.
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Maya wrote on Sun, 15 March 2009 19:11

Ahem. What about A Knot in the Grain? I'm pretty sure that was my first McKinley.... unless it was Beauty.... and I never made the connection that they were by one particular person until Hero (probably because then I was finally old enough to notice there were authors and not just titles on these things I kept reading).


Crap! I got the book list off wiki, that'll teach me to trust it. I'll see if I can edit the poll.


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Re: First McKinley Book? [message #13046 is a reply to message #13045 ] Sun, 15 March 2009 21:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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FIXED!

Thanks Maya. Smile


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Re: First McKinley Book? [message #14593 is a reply to message #12685 ] Thu, 09 April 2009 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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shoot.. i voted HERO and it was actually Rose daughter that i read first.. i have borrowed that book so many times (like almost 50 or so..)
i should just buy it!! lol
Re: First McKinley Book? [message #14624 is a reply to message #14593 ] Fri, 10 April 2009 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm curious about how many people started reading the books in their childhood, as opposed to coming to them as adults. I didn't pick up my first McKinley book (Hero) until I took over the Children's Department at a book store when I was 24. I read it because I was trying to broaden my base in Newbery books so I could handsell more of them, and it's a fantasy, hence more saleable right now, etc. What an incredible delight! But I think I read all of them far differently as an adult than I would have in elementary school or high school. I don't think I would have understood /Chalice/, for instance, on so many different levels, although I think I would have felt the charm of it. (Bee charm? Sorry-- bad pun.)

So, when did you first read them, and is there one in specific that you read much differently now than you did at any point in the past?

Meredith
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I first read Rose daughter when i was 11 or 12.... im 15 now...
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I came across Blue Sword in college, but the book that made me sit up and go WOW was Outlaws. I think I got hold of that when I was in my late 20's...


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I found Sword browsing in Andromeda, (alas now defunct), a fantasy book store in Birmingham. I read the blurb and saw woman as hero plus swords, horses... and promptly took it home, reading it overnight.


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Re: First McKinley Book? [message #14636 is a reply to message #14624 ] Fri, 10 April 2009 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Meredith B. wrote on Sat, 11 April 2009 05:13

I'm curious about how many people started reading the books in their childhood, as opposed to coming to them as adults. *snip*

So, when did you first read them, and is there one in specific that you read much differently now than you did at any point in the past?

Meredith


Interesting question - I read Hero first, probably aged 11 or 12 and Blue Sword not long after.

I possibly read Hero a bit better than I originally did. I didnt like the fight in the tower and the bit with Maur's head, I found that very dark and depressing. I still do, but I guess I understand those emotions better?

Blue Sword remains my most favourite book EVA!
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Hmm, I read Beauty at about 18 or 19. Really identified with the ugly duckling, misfit, book reader. Blue Sword was next and I think that really struck me because of the blend of traditional English "heroism" and fantasy - and, of course, the writing was great. Hero had that additional layer of depth in a more unfamiliar fantasy setting. I'm not sure how much of that I realized because of the age I was when I read them or how much the books themselves brought it out.


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I didn't come across them until graduate school, so I can only guess how I'd have reacted as a child. Clearly I needed access to the Beast's library, with all those books-not-yet-written-but-they-WILL-be.... *covets library*
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Beauty was my first. I read it when I was about 10 or 12 and fell in love with it (and yes, I coveted the Beast's library as well), and I didn't come across any of Robin's other books until I spent a fortnight with my penpal in California when I was 22. I came home from that trip with rather more luggage than I started with (and nearly got charged for excess baggage on the flight home...)and a fair chunk of it was books, including several of Robin's. I didn't read Hero and Sword until Kathy presented me with a copy of each the first time we met *waves at Kathy*


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Me, too. It is getting a little battered. I can even remember reading the first fourth of it at the newstand near Dupont Circle and realizing I had better buy it or I was going to be late for work.
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Meredith B. wrote on Fri, 10 April 2009 13:13

I'm curious about how many people started reading the books in their childhood, as opposed to coming to them as adults...


Childhood definitely. My mother has a tremendous personal library and Robin's books were some of the first that I read from it.
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Childhood, or young teenage years. In a fit of reading all the Newbery books in my library, I came across Hero. It was all downhill from there Smile


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My first was Blue Sword, and I was probably about 14. My parents had converted the guest room into a library, and it was full of paperbacks they'd been collecting for years. I was trying to find something to read and tended to avoid anything that looked "old" (I'd had a bad experience with some other fantasy written during the 60s-70s that definitely clashed with my world view). My mom put this yellowing book with a blue Lawrence-of-Arabia cover into my hands. The first thirty pages took me forever to get through. When I told my mom that I thought orange juice and cigars weren't that interesting she told me that it was one of her favorite parts of the book, but that I should keep reading. I am so glad I kept reading -- and the beginning is one of my favorite parts now, too.
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I was working as the assistant manager in a bookstore right after college (and marriage) when Beauty first came out. I grabbed it immediately and fell in love with the story. From that point on, if I saw a new McKinley book, I would buy it. Still do now, all these years later.
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They made us read Hero in 7th grade, and I disliked it on principle (since they MADE us read it) and then went out and found Blue Sword so that I could tell my teacher what a better book it was and how we should have read it instead. She looked at me funny. Now I love them all (even poor Hero, that I was so unhappy with at first), and I'm glad we had to read it in school.


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A few months ago I read Sunshine and fell absolutely in love with it. I'm about halfway through reading/buying everything else Robin has written....


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southdowner wrote on Fri, 10 April 2009 17:51

I found Sword browsing in Andromeda, (alas now defunct), a fantasy book store in Birmingham.


Oh snap! Although admitted, my school library (aged 11) is where I first found Sword, but Andromeda was where I eventually managed to buy it. The first time, anyway.

I really miss that shop.
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I had Beauty out of the post-library more often than it was on the shelf - from 7th grade to 10th grade. Then I went off to a residential high school, and when I came home it was gone from the shelf and the card catalog. I was heartbroken 'til I found a copy in a used book store in New Orleans.


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You too, huh? Wink

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I borrowed Deerskin from a friend (a fellow bookaholic). I read it, then I re-read it, then I read it again. The cover came off from being read so many times. I started working on a piece for chamber orchestra based on the book. The music isn't done, but every few years I pull it out and start again.

I wound up giving my friend a brand-new copy of the book to replace the one I had stolen from her.

I'm not sure what I read next, but I know Beauty and The Outlaws of Sherwood were in there. I was in high school at the time. I believe I also read The Door in the Hedge, but not The Blue Sword. I was rather limited in choices, as we lived in a small town and I was stuck with what I could find at the public library (the school library wasn't a good source for good reading material; I think I went in maybe once a year when I was in high school, usually during class time to do research).

I remember finding Rose Daughter and being overjoyed. I think it was in an airport bookstore, and I was ecstatic to have found another McKinley book that was a retelling of one of my favourite fairy tales - and one of my favourites of her books! Obviously Deerskin is my all-time favourite. Smile

Oh, and I was rather tickled to see the reference to Deerskin in Spindle's End. That sort of thing - where an author lets you know that they're using the same world but not writing a sequel - gives me the feeling that I'm in on some kind of big old secret that nobody else knows. Smile


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karalianne wrote on Sun, 28 June 2009 21:31


Oh, and I was rather tickled to see the reference to Deerskin in Spindle's End. That sort of thing - where an author lets you know that they're using the same world but not writing a sequel - gives me the feeling that I'm in on some kind of big old secret that nobody else knows. Smile


Gah. I missed that. I've got to go reread it now. I got the mention of Aerin in Deerskin though.

This is what I love about reading books fast, I get to reread them and discover new things.
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Quote:

I got the mention of Aerin in Deerskin though.


Gah, I missed that one! Very Happy I will have to re-read those books and then read Deerskin again!

The hazards of reading. Very Happy


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I read The Blue Sword as soon as it was named a Newbery Honor Book ... I was a Public Library Director and I had a challenging Children's Librarian and had to borrow it from another library.

When Hero won the Newbery I went to the ALA conference in D.C. and got my copies autographed and heard Robin's speech. So you can see I was already a long way from childhood. I'm pretty sure there was nothing like them when I was a child. I did read Rosemary Sutcliff's books over and over, so I suspect I would have liked Robin's books had they existed when I was a YA.


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For me the first book of Robin's that I read was also the gateway book. I had placed an order with the school's book fair and my 5th grade teacher lost my order or something, so she let me pick any of the books that she had ordered for the classroom. I chose Beauty. When my older sisters saw me reading it, they got very excited and shoved The Blue Sword into my hands as soon as I was done with Beauty. And then I just kept reading.


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I was anti scifi-fantasy for a while, until my 8th grade Language Arts teacher handed me Sword for scifi-fantasy month. have never looked back. it remains to this day one of my most frequently read books and favourite. in fact, I'm rereading it now Smile


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My first McKinley book was Beauty, which I got in 1979, when I was 29. After that, every time I was in a bookstore, the first thing I looked for was a new Robin McKinley. I still do.
I love all of her books, but Beauty is still my favorite. It's flawless.

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Hero and the Crown. My children were young and I was a full-time mom at the time that my community started a library. A patron gave the library money to stock the children and young adult section with Newberry winners. I had started reading the young adult books because they were fast reads and good reading. A stay at home mom does not have time for big books, children do not give you the luxury of sitting and reading for long. The library got a paperback copy of "Hero and the Crown". I loved it so much that I gave money to the library to order the book in hardcover as well as "The Blue Sword", and "Beauty". I was gratified to learn that new copies had to be ordered a couple of years later because the copies that I bought for the library were worn out.
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