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| Kirith [message #12647] |
Sun, 08 March 2009 19:35  |
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Kirith
Smooshes!
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| Re: Kirith [message #12650 is a reply to message #12647 ] |
Sun, 08 March 2009 19:53  |
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Oh, you mods. I can’t get away with anything with my mods.
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Well, no, but the fact that we like you anyway should be pretty telling. ;)
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Would you rather not see parts of stories that may never see the official light of published print?
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Wasn't aimed at me, but I'll vote anyway. I vote yes, share share share! My life is nowhere as busy as yours and sometimes I don't have brain enough for blog posts of my own. If you can use previously written material (fiction or not) to avoid coming up with something brand new to say on a low-brain night, do it. (Tooootally my Concerned Jodi self talking, not the Greedy Fan. Totally. Okay, it's a little of both.)
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But I’ll have Merrilee all over me like a hellhound watching me put my shoes on† long before, I imagine, telling me to rewrite the thing so she can sell it.
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*dies* I'm afraid neither of you are coming off very dignified in that mental image. :P
Smooshes!
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| Re: Kirith [message #12652 is a reply to message #12647 ] |
Sun, 08 March 2009 20:29 |
 skating librarian
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Thank you for answering all of our pitiful pleas for more ... even if the answer is "you'd better get used to snippets." Yes, yes, yes, please, we'll be good, very, very good.
No, I don't think you have mentioned a story about Aerin the widow ... that's the kind of thing I would remember.
I would love another story with Jack (and hill horses).
Heck, while you're at it, I'd like to know more about Richard and Kentarre, the expert archer with the blue bead on her bow. It sounds so drastic for him. I rather thought chasing after Harry might have exhausted his supply of unexpected behavior, but obviously not.
So, do you have a tentative date for the appearance of "Fire" yet ?
"Winning a war is like winning an earthquake" Jeanette Rankin
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| Re: Kirith [message #12653 is a reply to message #12647 ] |
Sun, 08 March 2009 20:31 |
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See how the author throws down the tantalising crumbs of information to the ravening horde of fans with consummate ease.... lol
about what happens to Aerin after Tor dies (of old age, by the way) and she has the opportunity to go back to Luthe?
Hehe.... Am I bad for having presumed all these years that, well duh, of course she went to Luthe? (The whole happy ending thing didn't really get considered I'll admit... just that of course she would go to him)
since I’m still insisting on posting daily
YAY!
I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel ~ Blackadder
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| Re: Kirith [message #12654 is a reply to message #12647 ] |
Sun, 08 March 2009 21:19 |
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Black Bear
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Yep. Sure am. You want to check out just how truly awful I am, ask a mod.
Oh yes. Awful. Writes us songs at holidays, entrusts us with the care and feeding of her forum, entertains us on a daily basis.... She's an 'orrible one, that Robin. 
Those books were written by a young woman who still believed in fairy tales and happy endings that more or less stayed happy. I’m a lot older and bleaker....The next Damar novel everyone wants is not going to happen.
Yes, true. But remember, we too are (most of us here, anyway) rather older than we were when we first read Hero and Sword. Perhaps the next Damar novel we want IS the Damar novel you've got, so to speak. Your readers change, just like you do. I prefer a good deal darker stuff than I did when I was 15, or even 25. And while I'm sure there will be people disappointed the next one isn't a clone of the first two, there will also be new readers who will come to Damar with completely different tastes and expectations than your readers did 20 years ago. And the new novel, when it happens, will utterly rock their socks.
"The time is always right to do what's right."--MLK Jr.
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| Re: Kirith [message #12657 is a reply to message #12654 ] |
Sun, 08 March 2009 21:57 |
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| Black Bear wrote on Mon, 09 March 2009 01:19 |
And the new novel, when it happens, will utterly rock their socks.
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Abso bally-lutely 
I certainly want to get around to Untitled Third Third Damar Novel because it’s got another particularly wonderful horse in it <snip>
All right, I confess, I do want to write Jack Dedham’s love story. He gets it on with Mathin’s daughter, have I told you this?^ She teaches him to ride the Hill horses. I’ve had a crush on Jack Dedham for over a quarter of a century.
Now I really REALLY want this story - Horses - well yes, of course! Few authors write such beautiful horse characters. And I've loved the characters of both Jack Dedham and Mathin for as long as I've been reading and re-reading your books - which would be truly countless times And even tho it might be sad, Aerin's story and her double future have literally haunted me so to hear more is very appealing.
It’s like why my latest raid on the newsagent’s for Green & Black’s ended up on the CD shelf, and why the bags of dog food tend to be found in the kindling basket. It’s called Middle Aged Brain in a Very Small House.
Now this I can empathise with. I could tell you why, but the list's faaar too long. Mostly my Middle Aged Brain mistakes do no harm, but I could usefully factor in a couple of hours a day for searching for things which "can't" be lost, they just aren't where I thought I put them...!
Someone says "pie" and we all go on alert, like meercats. "Pie? Where?" - Blackbear
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| Re: Kirith [message #12659 is a reply to message #12647 ] |
Sun, 08 March 2009 23:12 |
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| Robin wrote on Mon, 09 March 2009 12:35 |
Even if I do manage to write another Damar novel–and at this point, curiously, I think I probably will: I spent quite a few years very sure I would not–it will not be a SWORD or a HERO. Those books were written by a young woman who still believed in fairy tales and happy endings that more or less stayed happy. I’m a lot older and bleaker. If the Story Council sent me a SWORD II now I wouldn’t know what to do with it. * I am now the person who wrote SUNSHINE’s and DRAGONHAVEN’s worlds, remember.[/url]
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I, for one, am happy with *absolutely any* Damar book that may possibly eventuate. I would not expect after all this time to get another SWORD or HERO, and as a reader, I would like to see what your adventures as a writer have taught you and benefit from that.
(personally I actually find Hero quite bleak)
And Im not the same 12 year old who first discovered HERO either Although SWORD holds a special place in my heart as my most favourite book EVAH!
If I could, I would love to see more of is your horses (in any book), I love how you write them. As a horse person myself, it really resonates how well you see them, and I didn't know you were a rider til I started following your blog.
One question - I also adored how you wrote Narknon, but you are a dog person. Have you also had cats in the past?
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| Re: Kirith [message #12663 is a reply to message #12647 ] |
Mon, 09 March 2009 03:15 |
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The next Damar novel everyone wants is not going to happen. The next Damar novel will be something else.
Well, I'm not the first on the forum to note that for most if not all of us, the next Damar novel we want is the one you will write, not the one you wrote twenty-odd years ago. I love rereading books, but that's not the experience I want with a new book by the same author, and I don't suppose you'd want to write the same book over and over again either.
I'm glad I'm not the only one here who doesn't remember any mention of an Aerin/Luthe or Jack Dedham story--my brain is mush these days but that would have stuck, I'm sure.
But I’ll have Merrilee all over me like a hellhound watching me put my shoes on† long before, I imagine, telling me to rewrite the thing so she can sell it.
And good for Merrilee, too. If she can't sell it to someone, we can't buy it when it's finished!
Why don’t they learn that this is totally counterproductive? Yaay! She’s putting her shoes on! She’s going to TAKE US FOR A WALK! Let’s THROW OURSELVES INTO HER LAP so she can’t REACH her feet!
I suspect there's a dog gene that expresses itself this way. Or else they just get a kick out of hearing "I'VE GOT TO PUT MY SHOES ON FIRST YOU IDIOTS!" on a regular basis.
"The point of books is to have way too many but to always feel you never have enough . . . " Louise Erdrich
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| Re: Kirith [message #12666 is a reply to message #12647 ] |
Mon, 09 March 2009 06:52 |
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i am definitely ready for a jack dedham story and i too do not remember a luthe aierin story.sorry about the spelling of name but brain and hands not working so well this morning.
Bonnie Holmes the faster ahead I go, the more behind I get
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| Re: Kirith [message #12669 is a reply to message #12647 ] |
Mon, 09 March 2009 08:19 |
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I’m a lot older and bleaker.
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A lot of people seem to be picking up on this part, and I'd also like to say that I think you're a lot funnier--or at least, your books are. I suppose I cannot speak to you as a person. So all is not lost, the happy-go-lucky days of your youth may be behind you, but you've honed your dry sense of humor. Sunshine, for instance, made me laugh quite often. And, like others have expressed here, I too don't mind a darker overtone and a less happy ending. I am not even old, like the rest of you claim to be. I like variety. I like dark, gritty things (as long as they're not too scary. I hate scary movies. And horror novels. But I can finish Sandman).
"He envisioned a world where bears could tell jokes, chickens could sing, pigs could be stars and they all could ride bicycles." -- Frank Oz about Jim Henson
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| Re: Kirith [message #12672 is a reply to message #12647 ] |
Mon, 09 March 2009 10:14 |
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I'm just horribly, terribly excited to be reading ANYTHING new from/in/around/about Damar, even if it is morbid. Actually, I tend to prefer things that lean more towards the morbid; I find them more interesting.
As for the Jack Dedham thing, I do so hope you write it, or if you've already written it, then post it or publish it or some such thing--you're not the only one with a crush on him.
God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die.
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| Re: Kirith [message #12703 is a reply to message #12678 ] |
Tue, 10 March 2009 00:47 |
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I also agree with catlady. I will happily read anything Robin blogs. It is an additional bonus that all the moderators have a wonderful way with words. I often read the blogs twice so I can read all of the great moderator comments!
When in trouble or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
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| Re: Kirith [message #12705 is a reply to message #12703 ] |
Tue, 10 March 2009 04:20 |
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Catching up on a weeks worth of entries here. Thank you for the first 1,000 words of Kirith. It was wonderful, as always.
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| Re: Kirith [message #12709 is a reply to message #12705 ] |
Tue, 10 March 2009 07:15 |
gonetotervs
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Both my 12 year old son and I are reading (or in my case re-reading) your books and love them. The fragments of Kirith are lovely, and please post bits of it or other manuscripts every so often.
The future is looking a bit gloomy these days and pleasurable events that can be anticipated -- like 2010's Pegasus publication -- are a desirable antidote.
I once emailed you in pre-blog days and you answered -- and your readers do appreciate the time it takes to respond to us, so thank you.
best, Jeanine
in Frankfurt, Germany, which has a really huge bookfair every October .......
Jeanine
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| Re: Kirith [message #12737 is a reply to message #12647 ] |
Tue, 10 March 2009 18:08 |
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Black Bear:
While I understand perfectly why yesterday's post was felt to need no further discussion, you have left me no proper place to point out that "R'yleh," as you put in the subject line, is much too pronounceable.
The Great Ones lair in R'lyeh (which I have no idea how to pronounce, any more than I can pronounce Cthulhu). Ru-LEE-yeh? RAHL-yeh?? but not Riley, surely.
Typos aside, many thanks for your support of this site. And Robin, I do so much enjoy your take on life, hellhounds, gardens, bells, Americans abroad, etc. Please forgive us for going a little crazy at the sudden appearance of that delightful snippet. Kirith sounds like a young person of considerable character.
Abigail
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| Re: Kirith [message #12740 is a reply to message #12709 ] |
Tue, 10 March 2009 18:40 |
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Robin
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| gonetotervs wrote on Tue, 10 March 2009 07:15 |
Both my 12 year old son and I are reading (or in my case re-reading) your books and love them. The fragments of Kirith are lovely, and please post bits of it or other manuscripts every so often.
The future is looking a bit gloomy these days and pleasurable events that can be anticipated -- like 2010's Pegasus publication -- are a desirable antidote.
I once emailed you in pre-blog days and you answered -- and your readers do appreciate the time it takes to respond to us, so thank you.
best, Jeanine
in Frankfurt, Germany, which has a really huge bookfair every October .......
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Don't COUNT on PEGASUS in 2010, please, I do have to finish it first!!! But thank you! --and yes, I know about Frankfurt, and have ducked going once or twice!
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| Re: Kirith [message #12756 is a reply to message #12647 ] |
Tue, 10 March 2009 20:41 |
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I must be one of the so very few fans of the Hero/Blue Sword stories that does not want a sequel.
I rather like thinking they all lived long, full lives and leaving it at that.}:)
Without Chaos, there can be no Order.
Semper Fi, Once a Marine, Always a Marine.
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| Re: Kirith [message #12761 is a reply to message #12759 ] |
Tue, 10 March 2009 20:51 |
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| Robin wrote on Tue, 10 March 2009 20:47 |
Well, they did all lead long, full lives . . .
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Exactly! So I don't need to know anymore than that.}:P
Thank you though, for the original stories. I first read them when they came out and they remain books to be reread again and again anad again, for me.}:)
Without Chaos, there can be no Order.
Semper Fi, Once a Marine, Always a Marine.
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| Re: Kirith [message #12768 is a reply to message #12647 ] |
Tue, 10 March 2009 23:45 |
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I was sitting thinking, and a question occured to me.
The assumption one would make, would be that re-writing an already existing story would be easier than writing a brand-new onne, but then I wondered - is it?
And I couldn't help feeling curious (I'm not a cat person for nothing, I suppose! ) - which is hardest for you, to write something new or to re-invent and re-imagine something already written, not merely editing it, and that you'd thought was done with? How would the Story Council work in such a case?
The question is occasioned by thinking about "Kirith" of course, but my curiosity is of a more general nature, and would cover any hypothetical case. I was thinking more as a writer than a reader actually (even though I've not written anything new yet I'm starting to hope that soon I may - just for the fun of it for me), and it occured to me, that I think that for me re-writing would be harder (I've got a second chapter that refuses to be licked into anything even remotely resembling "shape"!)
Why, I feel all thin, sort of stretched, if you know what I mean, like butter that has been scraped over too much bread.
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| Re: Kirith [message #12771 is a reply to message #12737 ] |
Wed, 11 March 2009 00:02 |
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Black Bear
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| abigailmm wrote on Tue, 10 March 2009 18:08 |
Black Bear:
While I understand perfectly why yesterday's post was felt to need no further discussion, you have left me no proper place to point out that "R'yleh," as you put in the subject line, is much too pronounceable.
The Great Ones lair in R'lyeh (which I have no idea how to pronounce, any more than I can pronounce Cthulhu). Ru-LEE-yeh? RAHL-yeh?? but not Riley, surely.
Abigail
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One more person corrects my spelling in a post, so help me god I will bite them.
I have seen it spelled both ways, but you are correct that HPL spells it with the apostrophe after the R, and he should know. However, I can assure you that it is pronounced "rye-LAY," and Cthulhu is pronounced "Kuh-THOO-loo." (Running the Call of Cthulhu role-playing game for the last 20 years has given me a certain amount of courage of my convictions on these things...) Always glad to know another Lovecraft fan is on the forum, Abigail!
"The time is always right to do what's right."--MLK Jr.
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