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Lots of Loud Noise [message #12157] Fri, 27 February 2009 19:31 Go to next message
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Robin's made Lots of Loud Noise here!


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Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12162 is a reply to message #12157 ] Fri, 27 February 2009 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The main thing that happens when I set off in musical company is total panic. Which is boring and dumb. I’m sure I’d like playing in company if I could ever get past the automatic nervous breakdown stage.
Best got over with lots of practise even though it makes you feel sick sick sick (sorry, just rereading Eloise!) Congratulations on tying your flag to the mast - waiting to hear how it goes

sending chocolate-y good wishes, and congratulations to the hellhounds (plus extra tummy rubs - yes, I know just what you mean! Not a problem with Hazel's undercarriage lol)


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Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12163 is a reply to message #12162 ] Fri, 27 February 2009 19:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ooh! Piano duets are PILES of fun. Must do them again soon.

I remember getting to Trondheim, Norway and sitting down with my sister and going mad with a pile of them...
Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12164 is a reply to message #12157 ] Fri, 27 February 2009 20:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And next Friday I’m going to take the freller in and poke the hard first part in front of Oisin’s nose and say ‘play that. I’ve got the second part covered.’

You read it here.



Yeah! Go girl. *waves pom pomps*

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Nobody died.


...I knew bells were addictive and dangerous if one were to fall on you, but even without hundreds of pounds of metal crashing through the floors to crush you? Still that dangerous?

*awe and admiration*


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Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12170 is a reply to message #12157 ] Fri, 27 February 2009 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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D’you remember that I yearn, in a feeble, foolish sort of way, for some other blundering, incapable quasi-musician to play with? I have one friend and one relative who live just slightly too far away for this to be feasible, and apparently all of Oisin’s other students are either going to the Royal Academy or sane enough to keep their skeletons in their own closets. Feh. So unsporting of them. What’s a blundering incapable quasi-musician to do?

Yeah, that's one of the best parts about performing music -- doing it with other people. (It's also extremely FRUSTRATING when you do it with people who don't do it up to your standards, or who are much better than you and you know you are letting them down, but then you know all about that from bell-ringing.) I've never had ambitions as a solo singer; all I ever wanted to do was to be a member of a chorus of COMPETENT, DEDICATED singers. It's frustrating working with people of various levels of ability, commitment, and energy, and one's own commitment and energy inevitably flag, making one into one of the bad guys unless one finds heroic methods to motivate one's self...

But I'd think that even playing duets, or in string quartets, or any group smaller than a full-blown symphony would have to give similar satisfaction. When it's right, it's WAY more ecstatic than the best sex imaginable.

So, my dear: I hope you manage to find some musical partners! Or at least one. How about a singer? Accompanying a single instrumentalist? Etc.? I'll never forget watching Martha Argerich at the piano and Charles Dutoit on the podium in Philadelphia in March of 2000, grinning at each other between movements of the Prokofiev 3rd Piano Concerto like excited children; they were formerly married to each other and still good friends, and clearly were able to read each other like their own bodies. That's what it's all about.
Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12171 is a reply to message #12157 ] Fri, 27 February 2009 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gosh, banging on the piano and ringing bells ... you must be feeling better. Yeah!

Maybe I'll find the Apple Butter tomorrow. I think I stuck it in the freezer when the renovations destroyed the kitchen cabinets.

My oven is back on line and I've made 15 lbs. of Swedish meatballs (including a batch of vegan gluten free), a big pan of brownies, two lemon pound cakes and two loaves of oatmeal whole wheat bread. Of course most of it went off to church ...

I think y' all might like it (our UU church) .... no bells, but great piano (jazz and show tunes sometimes) ... we've been known to have a (fair trade/organic) chocolate communion ... and each spring we have a flower communion which culminates in dancing around a may-pole/Swedish mid-summer pole completely decorated in fresh flowers.

Flowers ... something to dream about ... although the snow is beginning to sink, and I have to admit that spring is a possibility.


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Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12173 is a reply to message #12157 ] Fri, 27 February 2009 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It never fails to tickle me that music mesmerizes you the way it does. =)

I wish I was able to help; I would love to go to England and play piano duets with you. Hell, I want to go to England and learn how to ring bells now. It sounds by all accounts similar to being on a bass drum line, which is one of the most amazing experiances I have EVER had in life. Not too many bell towers out here in California though.... but luckily, many drum lines.
Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12177 is a reply to message #12157 ] Sat, 28 February 2009 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brava Robin for getting through the ringing creditably, and bravo hellhounds for capping the day off nicely. Hopefully the piano noises weren't too rude; it seems like they should have approached triumphal.

But I’m learning the blasted Mozart. And next Friday I’m going to take the freller in and poke the hard first part in front of Oisin’s nose and say ‘play that. I’ve got the second part covered.’

You go, girl!

There are dust antelope, dust walruses, dust asteroids in my house, all of them illogical.

Not just in your house. Add "in inexplicable quantities" and you'll have my house down pat.



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Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12183 is a reply to message #12177 ] Sat, 28 February 2009 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Diane in MN wrote on Sat, 28 February 2009 02:04


There are dust antelope, dust walruses, dust asteroids in my house, all of them illogical.

Not just in your house. Add "in inexplicable quantities" and you'll have my house down pat.


My mom has a little sign in her house that says "Dust Testing In Progress - Please Do Not Disturb Samples" with a picture of a woman wearing a labcoat on it...


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Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12190 is a reply to message #12157 ] Sat, 28 February 2009 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin,

I'm so glad you're getting back into playing your lovely piano, since it brings you such evident enjoyment. I wish you the very best of luck in finding someone to play with. As a teacher (viola), one of my great joys is helping my students by playing duets with them. It's not just in bells that there are good players who are happy to help less confident players. If it were in my power, I'd come play duets with you any day. That being impossible, I'll wish you a wonderful duet partner!

Wendy
Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12192 is a reply to message #12157 ] Sat, 28 February 2009 14:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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only Penelope has bagged the treble


Watching the members of Southdowner's Thursday group going through their practise session the other evening, I was much struck with the fact that the person ringing the treble bell was doing it with his eyes closed (and a look of some concentration on his face). I don't know if this is as good as it looked, but I was very impressed!

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Then I came back to the mews and the hellhounds ate supper.


I'm impressed again! Good for you and good for the hellhounds. I'm being impressed a lot this last week - having supper with Southdowner on Thursday we were jointly heaping encomiums upon your head - agreeing that you're very impressive (and nice Smile), sharing all these stories with everyone.

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Odd, isn't it, the way one uses a variety of means to tie oneself down to doing things. And waiting for a good 'omen' of some sort, to justify a desired action. We're weird, humans. Smile


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Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12200 is a reply to message #12170 ] Sat, 28 February 2009 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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judith wrote on Fri, 27 February 2009 19:19

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D’you remember that I yearn, in a feeble, foolish sort of way, for some other blundering, incapable quasi-musician to play with? I have one friend and one relative who live just slightly too far away for this to be feasible, and apparently all of Oisin’s other students are either going to the Royal Academy or sane enough to keep their skeletons in their own closets. Feh. So unsporting of them. What’s a blundering incapable quasi-musician to do?

Yeah, that's one of the best parts about performing music -- doing it with other people. (It's also extremely FRUSTRATING when you do it with people who don't do it up to your standards, or who are much better than you and you know you are letting them down, but then you know all about that from bell-ringing.) I've never had ambitions as a solo singer; all I ever wanted to do was to be a member of a chorus of COMPETENT, DEDICATED singers. It's frustrating working with people of various levels of ability, commitment, and energy, and one's own commitment and energy inevitably flag, making one into one of the bad guys unless one finds heroic methods to motivate one's self...

But I'd think that even playing duets, or in string quartets, or any group smaller than a full-blown symphony would have to give similar satisfaction. When it's right, it's WAY more ecstatic than the best sex imaginable.

So, my dear: I hope you manage to find some musical partners! Or at least one. How about a singer? Accompanying a single instrumentalist? Etc.? I'll never forget watching Martha Argerich at the piano and Charles Dutoit on the podium in Philadelphia in March of 2000, grinning at each other between movements of the Prokofiev 3rd Piano Concerto like excited children; they were formerly married to each other and still good friends, and clearly were able to read each other like their own bodies. That's what it's all about.


This makes me want to live closer, so i could be a supportive quasi-musician - I've always wanted to learn to play Celtic harp, but don't have the wherewithal (e.g., FUNDS) to tackle that, so I tootle away on recorders now and again, but how fun would it be to play recorder to your piano, eh?! I also echo Judith's love of chorus singing. I'm a "let's shut up and sing now, OK?" kind of chorister, and things have been way too dramatic in the Symphony Chorus this year for my taste. Hopefully, things will be calmer for this next concert, now that we have the new director semi-broken-down, er IN, that is...
Smile

Love to hear about your musical enjoyments!
Smiles,
Jeanne Marie
Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12232 is a reply to message #12200 ] Sun, 01 March 2009 07:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I remember both singing rounds and playing violin with groups. Yes, lots of fun and yes somewhat a problem. It always took me a lot of time to do it well because I kept getting confused by the group sound and the sound that I should be making in it. After a while people who knew me would go over my part and let me listen to what I should sound like so that when there were several kinds of noise going on I could listen to and make mine fit. I always did have a disconnect between the notes on a page and the sound in my ear. I can still play penny whistle by ear but not very well by note.


Dances
Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12260 is a reply to message #12190 ] Sun, 01 March 2009 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It really doesn't drive you up a wall, playing a duet with a student in meltdown? I just don't know any other way to stop melting down except doing over and over it UNTIL I stop. I mean, presumably I *will* stop eventually . . . she says doubtfully. . . .
Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12262 is a reply to message #12192 ] Sun, 01 March 2009 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The shut-eyed treble ringer was ringing by EAR. THAT'S impressive. **Sigh.** I told you I think Southdowner's area is seriouser than us dweebs in the south. We have a few terrific ringers, but unfortunately most of us are rank and file.
Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12263 is a reply to message #12200 ] Sun, 01 March 2009 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OH, sigh! Well I wish ONE of you supportive quasi musicians would move in the next village over!!
Re: Lots of Loud Noise [message #12284 is a reply to message #12260 ] Sun, 01 March 2009 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin wrote on Sun, 01 March 2009 15:13

It really doesn't drive you up a wall, playing a duet with a student in meltdown? I just don't know any other way to stop melting down except doing over and over it UNTIL I stop. I mean, presumably I *will* stop eventually . . . she says doubtfully. . . .

No it doesn't drive me up a wall. Part of my pleasure as a teacher is to be able to reassure my students that they are making progress, especially when they feel that there's no end in sight for whatever they're struggling through. I can see the progress they make because: A) I'm not in the middle of the struggle and work (as they are) and B) I've seen the overall shape of work-turning-into-ability of many people over the years. In my experience, ability comes first, then confidence gradually arrives, then later on trust in yourself in general comes (or least sticks a paw or a nose through the door). And that progression applies to the smallest parts of the learning as well as the whole grand scheme. I have never met anyone who couldn't learn and get better (in my case on viola), and it's my joy to support someone who's struggling and cheer on (point out, guide) their progress.

The most dramatic example of this is an adult student I have who started with me some years ago. She had never played a musical instrument. She shook so much at her first few months of lessons that I wondered if she had palsy or some other physical issue. It turned out that she was just really, really nervous but bravely kept coming to the lessons. She now plays with a local community orchestra and has continued to get much braver (as well as better) over the years.

So, from across an ocean..... *cheer* Yay, Robin, hang in there!

Wendy
(the woodsman guide through the deep, dark viola forest)

P.S. I tend to grin quite gleefully at your comments about what not to tell teachers or what Oisin has done to (errr...for) you at a given lesson. He sounds like a good teacher to me.
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Robin wrote on Sun, 01 March 2009 23:15

The shut-eyed treble ringer was ringing by EAR. THAT'S impressive. **Sigh.** I told you I think Southdowner's area is seriouser than us dweebs in the south. We have a few terrific ringers, but unfortunately most of us are rank and file.


There were certainly a lot of them, at the practise for this particular tower. At least a dozen and more coming, so that people had to take turns on the bells.

I was too traumatised by the climb and then squirm up into the place with the bell-ropes to notice much more...Smile


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AJLR wrote on Mon, 02 March 2009 21:09

Robin wrote on Sun, 01 March 2009 23:15

The shut-eyed treble ringer was ringing by EAR. THAT'S impressive. **Sigh.** I told you I think Southdowner's area is seriouser than us dweebs in the south. We have a few terrific ringers, but unfortunately most of us are rank and file.

There were certainly a lot of them, at the practise for this particular tower. At least a dozen and more coming, so that people had to take turns on the bells.
27 at Home tower practice last week - back to a "normal" 23 tonight! Jokes were made about Home Tower's popularity at the annual guild dinner on Saturday.
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I was too traumatised by the climb and then squirm up into the place with the bell-ropes to notice much more...Smile

Climb and squirm - yes that just about describes it, but you missed the final wiggle out Razz


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