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Restorative


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Re: Restorative [message #12099 is a reply to message #12093 ] Thu, 26 February 2009 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and my brains are melting out of my ears.


Earplugs?

Depending on the consistency, of course. Like cookie dough with runny apple butter and more flour? Or runny apple butter and the amount of flour the recipe calls for? If it's the batter kind, you might be out of luck.




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Eww. Just eww.

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Re: Restorative [message #12106 is a reply to message #12103 ] Thu, 26 February 2009 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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blondviolinist wrote on Thu, 26 February 2009 17:30

Eww. Just eww.

Smile


I agree with you on Jodi's brain/batter description. The cookies, however, sound really yummy!


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Re: Restorative [message #12107 is a reply to message #12093 ] Thu, 26 February 2009 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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*sigh*

Those cookies sound SOOO nice. So I went looking for apple butter, and can't find it. BUT remembering your laments about being unable to find citrus oils over here, Robin, I've found a site that does pure orange, lemon and lime extracts, which might do the job. And they're free from evil additives. (and the site has all kinds of american goodies which are usually unobtainable over here - I'm planning a binge on peanut butter M&Ms at some point fairly soon.....)
anyway, the site is here - http://www.americansweets.co.uk/green-mountain-natural-flavo urings-192-c.asp


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NASA earplugs. Proof against voids. :)
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while I was out with hellhounds and a little piece of paper with lines drawn on it in my teeth, counting one two three four five six one two three four five six one two three four five six, etc, with the result that this evening when we all had a go at it I was no worse than the other two


Well done that woman! When do you start ringing - what was it? 'Surprise'? - on the handbells? Having been taken to a tower practise by Southdowner this evening, I am filled with admiration for all of you who can do these things.

Thank you for the recipe. That sounds like a lovely comforting mix of flavours. I wonder if one could add a tiny bit of cinnamon to the cookie dough?


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Re: Restorative [message #12116 is a reply to message #12114 ] Thu, 26 February 2009 20:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your apple butter should be REEKING with cinnamon already. Perhaps I should have mentioned that in the recipe. You adjust your spices like you adjust your sugar. But *my* apple butter always comes with a major blast of cinnamon. Or it's not true apple butter. :)

SURPRISE ON *HANDBELLS*?!? WOMAN, HAVE PITY. Because, frankly, neither Niall nor Colin will. They're both already talking about Cambridge (your first surprise method, you may recall from recent posts. :). Or rather, :( ) It looks like I'm going to be hit with it from both sides, hand and tower, more or less simultaneously. See Famous Author Crushed between Rock and Hard Place!!
Re: Restorative [message #12117 is a reply to message #12093 ] Thu, 26 February 2009 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cooky recipe sounds great! My family loves apple butter (Pennsylvania Dutch genes).

It is easy to make, and it includes cinnamon, allspice, and cloves. Around here it is a way to use up windfalls, tho I'm sure regular "from the store apples" would work well too.

Linda's easy does it apple butter

Quarter your washed apples, and put in pot or kettle (depending on how much you want to make) with about half that amount of cider or water.

Cook until mushy (don't let it burn) and then strain to get rid of skin, seeds, etc. Here we use a food mill. A colander followed by a sieve may work just as well.

Measure your pulp and add a half cup of sugar for each cup of pulp. Simmer until thick. Add cinnamon, allspice and cloves to taste.

Generally one makes a quantity large enough to can (hot water bath), but a small quantity (for the cookies and a bit to try on toast or scones) could just be refrigerated.

In times gone by it was made outdoors in huge kettles on lovely autumn days.


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Re: Restorative [message #12122 is a reply to message #12093 ] Fri, 27 February 2009 00:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your description of counting for hand bells reminds me vividly of dancing Macedonian and Romanian line dances which are in 5/4 or 7/4 time while the arm swings go in 4/4. Or Swedish couple dances where what the guy is doing is off set a beat from what the girl is doing and the steps are entirely different...
Of course that takes only coordinating with another person or with your own two feet and arms plus the music. Bells sound more complex.
I tried making the cookies and I think they were good but I will have to ask my sons. They ate them while I was waiting for them to cool enough to frost.


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Re: Restorative [message #12128 is a reply to message #12093 ] Fri, 27 February 2009 02:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What is worth four years’ hard labour to get to the starting line of?

Anything you really want to do! Smile

Drop cookies are never neat.

But we love them because they are fast and easy. If you have a cookie scoop, they are even faster and have smooth edges besides.



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blondviolinist wrote on Thu, 26 February 2009 19:30

Eww. Just eww.

Smile


Robin started it! *points*


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Robin wrote on Thu, 26 February 2009 19:55

NASA earplugs. Proof against voids. Smile


I will call up NASA for you and see if they have any spares. Anything else you need from them while I've got them on the phone?


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Re: Restorative [message #12141 is a reply to message #12093 ] Fri, 27 February 2009 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was going to ask what apple butter was, so thank you for the recipe! I take it that by "cider" you mean apple juice, not the alcoholic stuff?

My mother makes a quince cheese which might make rather a nice alternative in this recipe.... hmmmm, wonder if she made any last year? Those biscuits do sound delicious.


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O.k. This morning I decided that I'd skip a few yoga poses and instead try to figure out what change ringing really is. So looked up a few sites and tried out some ringing patterns on my harp.

It made my fingers feel like they were going cross-eyed and my brain twisted. However now I think something like that would sound good in a base line. Maybe I can work it into Paccevell's (Sorry I cannot spell his name) Canon in D-major.

Have fun with the ringing. Now that I understand how complex it really is you have both my envy and sympathy. Smile
Re: Restorative [message #12148 is a reply to message #12116 ] Fri, 27 February 2009 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin wrote on Fri, 27 February 2009 01:37



SURPRISE ON *HANDBELLS*?!? WOMAN, HAVE PITY. Because, frankly, neither Niall nor Colin will. They're both already talking about Cambridge (your first surprise method, you may recall from recent posts. Smile. Or rather, Sad ) It looks like I'm going to be hit with it from both sides, hand and tower, more or less simultaneously. See Famous Author Crushed between Rock and Hard Place!!


Any woman who can single-handedly raise two male hellhounds can, I am sure, cope with Niall and Colin with one hand/bell tied behind her back. Smile


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Apple cider in the US is not apple juice, nor is it what we call "hard cider." Cider's brown, opaque, and often a bit tart. Here's a picture of it vs. apple juice on Wiki. Not sure what it'd be called in the UK...


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Cookie recipe looks great; and apple butter is still readily available this time of year here! Mmm. Makes me want to go to the BBQ place for dinner this eve, they do fried biscuits with apple butter to die for...


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Re: Restorative [message #12152 is a reply to message #12093 ] Fri, 27 February 2009 18:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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U.S. Apple cider is unfiltered and nonalcoholic (and delicious!)


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AJLR wrote on Fri, 27 February 2009 16:30

Robin wrote on Fri, 27 February 2009 01:37



SURPRISE ON *HANDBELLS*?!? WOMAN, HAVE PITY. Because, frankly, neither Niall nor Colin will. They're both already talking about Cambridge (your first surprise method, you may recall from recent posts. Smile. Or rather, Sad ) It looks like I'm going to be hit with it from both sides, hand and tower, more or less simultaneously. See Famous Author Crushed between Rock and Hard Place!!


Any woman who can single-handedly raise two male hellhounds can, I am sure, cope with Niall and Colin with one hand/bell tied behind her back. Smile


Don't you mean: ".. single-handedly raise two male hellhounds WITH ISSUES ...." !!

Those suckers have taken a LOT of candles over the last couple of years. No wonder they are so shiny!! Razz hehe


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*I* was speaking METAPHORICALLY. YOU'RE the one decided to get all gross. :)
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Robin wrote on Fri, 27 February 2009 19:27

*I* was speaking METAPHORICALLY. YOU'RE the one decided to get all gross. :)


I use the material I'm given. ;)


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Re: Restorative [message #12165 is a reply to message #12093 ] Fri, 27 February 2009 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Speaking of ingredients for foreign recipes that one can't find locally, I have just found maple sugar candy in Australia! Yay!

Now, if I just rearrange this budget item and reduce this other one, I may be able to afford candy at $2 per bite...
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Black Bear wrote on Fri, 27 February 2009 22:59

Apple cider in the US is not apple juice, nor is it what we call "hard cider." Cider's brown, opaque, and often a bit tart. Here's a picture of it vs. apple juice on Wiki. Not sure what it'd be called in the UK...

It would be called apple juice. Probably "cloudy apple juice", and marked "not from concentrate". Delicious!


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Mrs Redboots wrote on Sat, 28 February 2009 08:35


Probably "cloudy apple juice",


Man, y'all can make anything sound unappetizing. Smile

It's interesting, while I know that apple cider is technically also juice from apples, it is such a completely different-tasting beverage from what I think of as "apple juice" that conflating the two seems inconceivable to me. (Can you tell that I don't like apple juice? But I do like cider and drink it by the gallon from September through November...)

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No, this is how you make cider sound unappetizing (you have been warned.)

My mom used to work for an apple farm, and my parents live near an old-fashioned cider mill ( http://www.lakesidefarmscidermill.com/ )
They make excellent cider the REALLY old way, with their own press, and until recently it was unpasteurized. Then NY passed a law that all cider had to be pasteurized. Probably smart, but it does take some of the kick out of the flavor.
Or as my mom put it: "But we like it with the good crud in it!"

(They still have the best cider around short of homemade, though.)

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Mrs Redboots wrote on Sat, 28 February 2009 08:35

Black Bear wrote on Fri, 27 February 2009 22:59

Apple cider in the US is not apple juice, nor is it what we call "hard cider." Cider's brown, opaque, and often a bit tart. Here's a picture of it vs. apple juice on Wiki. Not sure what it'd be called in the UK...

It would be called apple juice. Probably "cloudy apple juice", and marked "not from concentrate". Delicious!


Over here they would say "unfiltered apple juice". Smile And yes, it is delicious Smile


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And you can make cider doughnuts with it. A hot cider doughnut is wonderful on a chilly fall day.

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Noooooooo Melissa!!!! I've been looking for a good cider donut recipe on the web for ages, and you got my hopes all up with that link!! Then alas it was just an article (albeit a lovely one.) I'm crushed. Smile

I went to a September wedding in Ithaca a few years ago, and had cider donuts for breakfast at the farmer's market each day I was there. Heaven.


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Well I don't know if it produces the cider doughnuts of your dreams, but *I* have a recipe for cider doughtnuts somewhere. I'll try to find it. Old American recipe, with AMERICAN cider. :)
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Black Bear wrote on Sat, 28 February 2009 19:05

Noooooooo Melissa!!!! I've been looking for a good cider donut recipe on the web for ages, and you got my hopes all up with that link!! Then alas it was just an article (albeit a lovely one.) I'm crushed. Smile

I went to a September wedding in Ithaca a few years ago, and had cider donuts for breakfast at the farmer's market each day I was there. Heaven.


In case Robin's recipe isn't readily available, I looked one up. I don't know how it compares to Lakeside's, but I'll put it in the Recipe thread.


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Whilst on the subject of locally produced foods and cider, the Woods, up in Weathersfield, Vermont produce cider jelly. Basically they boil down cider (rather like making maple syrup) until what is left is the consistency of jelly. It is yummy ... think concentrated essence of cider to spread on one's toast.

www.woodscidermill.com/PRODUCTS/CiderJelly.html



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Robin wrote on Sat, 28 February 2009 19:41

Well I don't know if it produces the cider doughnuts of your dreams, but *I* have a recipe for cider doughtnuts somewhere. I'll try to find it. Old American recipe, with AMERICAN cider. Smile



YES PLEASE.

So far as I am concerned, donuts are the perfect food. Well, except for the part where I put on so much weight I develop my own gravitational field. But life is a balancing act, and a batch of cider donuts (shared, of course) can be paid for in other ways...


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Thanks Melissa! Will go take a look! I've looked up a bunch online myself but have been too cowardly to experiment. Smile I've been hoping to find one that someone I knew had actually tried; as deep-fat-frying is something I've little/no experience with, I want to make sure that I'm making something that tastes halfway decent when I set my kitchen on fire...

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About Cider. I have access to cidering equipment. I find that you can get the very best cider by hoiking the equipment in the back of a pick up truck and finding people who are not using their apples and knocking on the door and saying "Cider out your tree lady?"
I did my mom's tree. It took five hours, seven or eight people, and produced about nine gallons of first rate cider. It also produced about fifty gallons of thlup. That's more apple moosh than any compost heap can handle. The mill is a great attractant of people who like mechanical problems, as it needs working with and fiddling at.
Later on I heard about the apple jack drain cleaner. From what I heard, some college students were making apple jack in their dorm room and got caught with a surprise inspection. they dumped the four gallons of apple jack down the drain and cleared a sewer pipe that had been plugged for seventy years. Not only unplugged but polished the pipe and sterilized it. They became interested in the chemistry and got a chemist to analyze the stuff which contained aldehyde's and fusel oils. His comment was, " People drink this?" Further experimentation has confirmed that four gallons of Apple jack will clear just about any drain. I am unsure if I would drink it but I guess some people do. I think that Terry Pratchett wrote about it as Scumble. "Smelling of Apples and happy brain death"


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I think scumble is probably similar in concept (although fiercer!) to scrumpy - which can be very 'rough' (on the drinker, that is) cider. And by cider I mean the British sort, ie fermented apple juice.

So I suppose we have four liquid apple products: clear apple juice (not my favourite - usually over-sweet to my taste and not very interesting); cloudy/unfiltered apple juice (very nice); 'good' cider - delicious, can be still or fizzy and anything from very dry to quite sweet, and not hangover-producing unless you're particularly susceptible to such; and scrumpy - half a pint and you fall over, groaning...! Smile


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AJLR wrote on Sun, 01 March 2009 14:26

I think scumble is probably similar in concept (although fiercer!) to scrumpy - which can be very 'rough' (on the drinker, that is) cider. And by cider I mean the British sort, ie fermented apple juice.

So I suppose we have four liquid apple products: clear apple juice (not my favourite - usually over-sweet to my taste and not very interesting); cloudy/unfiltered apple juice (very nice); 'good' cider - delicious, can be still or fizzy and anything from very dry to quite sweet, and not hangover-producing unless you're particularly susceptible to such; and scrumpy - half a pint and you fall over, groaning...! Smile


Don't forget snakebite, which is 50% lager and 50% cider (UK cider). I discovered this in England with rugby players. Was the only time I was able to drink beer. Wink
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Black Bear wrote on Sun, 01 March 2009 07:35

Thanks Melissa! Will go take a look! I've looked up a bunch online myself but have been too cowardly to experiment. Smile I've been hoping to find one that someone I knew had actually tried; as deep-fat-frying is something I've little/no experience with, I want to make sure that I'm making something that tastes halfway decent when I set my kitchen on fire...


Um, I haven't actually TRIED this (I'm a lousy cook.) I just looked for one from around this area that sounded right. (Actually, first I looked to see if Lakeside had posted their recipe, but they haven't.)


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