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Handbell victim [message #10410] Thu, 22 January 2009 20:02 Go to next message
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Handbell victim


I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel ~ Blackadder
Re: Handbell victim [message #10413 is a reply to message #10410 ] Thu, 22 January 2009 20:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alicia, poor sad fool, agreed. ‡‡ She reads the blog. She’s curious.
Curiosity can be fatal ......

... I wonder if Hannah would really mind if I told the story about the lobster, the policeman, and the bottle of nail varnish? . . . oh, frelling freller, what if Cassiopeia, Eleadora, Ataulfo, or Sempronio recognises her/himself? Maybe I’d better not mention the Bugs Bunny tattoo . . .
LMAO .... naughty naughty! But do tell. Very Happy

Remind me to pick up people at unknown hotels after 6 pm only June-August.
*makes a note*

I did however take out three full dustpans of . . ... landscape from the floor in front. Small rocks, dead leaves, and dirt.
Oh. Sounds like my vehicle..... hehe

I look forward to hearing if Alicia manages to be coherent tomorrow.... hehe


I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel ~ Blackadder
Re: Handbell victim [message #10416 is a reply to message #10410 ] Thu, 22 January 2009 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, there are a few people who can ring two tower bells at once. Gaah! I have been hauling away at one rope tonight... two!
... and where IS Alicia's Bugs Bunny tattoo? (Won't tell, honest!)


Someone says "pie" and we all go on alert, like meercats. "Pie? Where?" - Blackbear
Re: Handbell victim [message #10418 is a reply to message #10410 ] Thu, 22 January 2009 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh dear, poor Alicia. Sounds so traumatic. I hope she recovers okay!

Your car sounds a lot like mine when I lived in Mudville, Texas. Except I never carted hellhounds around, just other teenagers, so mine had more french fries on the inside.

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. . . I wonder if Hannah would really mind if I told the story about the lobster, the policeman, and the bottle of nail varnish? . . .


TEASE. I want to know all about this!


Smooshes!
Re: Handbell victim [message #10419 is a reply to message #10418 ] Thu, 22 January 2009 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hannah is going to KILL ME. :)
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Robin wrote on Thu, 22 January 2009 20:23

Hannah is going to KILL ME. Smile


Yeah but you should have fair warning ... there is an ocean between you. Razz Plenty of room to hide here if you need to. LOL


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Robin wrote on Thu, 22 January 2009 20:23

Hannah is going to KILL ME. :)


She's in the States, right? There's a whole ocean between you! ;)


Smooshes!
Re: Handbell victim [message #10425 is a reply to message #10410 ] Thu, 22 January 2009 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and so on: you can still have star quarterbacks and, uh, bowlers§§ and things

I thought a bowler was a kind of hat... Do hats play team sports?


Maybe I’d better not mention the Bugs Bunny tattoo . . .


That depends on Where It Is.



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Re: Handbell victim [message #10434 is a reply to message #10410 ] Thu, 22 January 2009 23:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you, thank you, Robin! How did you know I needed you to post a bell ringing entry today? Because otherwise I wasn't going to have any excuse for posting this outside of the Fibercrafters thread.

A friend surprised me tonight by giving me this kit. I am ecstatic, over-the-moon happy! I'm going to be knitting Kent Treble Bob Major patterns in colorwork and cables for days and days and days Smile This friend knew I'd been longing for the kit for about a year (reading your regular bell ringing entries, Robin, was NOT helping my contentment Smile ), but grad school does a number on the pocketbook, so I hadn't been able to order it.

The pattern contains over 32 pages of instructions, including explanations of those bell terms Sayers sprinkles so freely through The Nine Tailors: "slow hunt," "making thirds and fourths," "treble bob," etc., etc., etc. (Maybe it's a good thing I don't live in England. I don't have time to take up change ringing right now.)

It was such a lovely, thoughtful, unexpected gift.

Pardon me, I'm going to go dance around the room with my sock kit.


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Re: Handbell victim [message #10435 is a reply to message #10410 ] Fri, 23 January 2009 00:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh oh. I went to a couple of websites on handbell change ringing, and I found out you can do it with handchimes. We have handchimes at church. Ooh. Can you imagine trying to learn change ringing on one's own, and then teaching it to the kids? Ooh. How much extra time do I have in my life? ^_^
Re: Handbell victim [message #10436 is a reply to message #10410 ] Fri, 23 January 2009 00:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was sitting here reading the blog entry when a story came on the radio about Edgar Allen Poe, whose birthday was January 19. Of course this reinforced thoughts about "the tintinnabulation that so musically wells From the bells, bells, bells" etc. etc., so I looked up the text of "The Bells". Poe didn't have much nice to say about you folks up in the tower, when he gets to that point. But if you want to talk about wild eyes and gibbering, that probably describes the state Poe was in when he wrote this poem.

Although in Poe's case, the wild eyes and gibbering were probably chemically induced.

For anyone not familiar with "The Bells," the text is here:

<a href=" http://knowingpoe.thinkport.org/writer/thebells_fulltext.asp" target="_blank"></a>

[Updated on: Fri, 23 January 2009 00:22]



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Re: Handbell victim [message #10437 is a reply to message #10434 ] Fri, 23 January 2009 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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blondviolinist wrote on Fri, 23 January 2009 04:57


A friend surprised me tonight by giving me this kit. I am ecstatic, over-the-moon happy! I'm going to be knitting Kent Treble Bob Major patterns in colorwork and cables for days and days and days Smile This friend knew I'd been longing for the kit for about a year (reading your regular bell ringing entries, Robin, was NOT helping my contentment Smile ), but grad school does a number on the pocketbook, so I hadn't been able to order it.


You are, of course, going to give Robin the first pair, no?


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Re: Handbell victim [message #10438 is a reply to message #10410 ] Fri, 23 January 2009 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin wrote

I’m not sure how usual cricket is


Alas, all too usual. I don't particularly enjoy it, but have grown up knowing that woe betide me if I don't know the score, or at least what is happening, in the Test Match, having had a father, a brother, a boss AND a husband all of whom are addicts!


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You are, of course, going to give Robin the first pair, no?


'Fraid not. I'm going to be horribly selfish and keep the pair for myself (the kit only makes one pair.) I'll use the excuse that one shouldn't wear work-of-art socks in All-Stars Very Happy (I am so getting booted off the forum for that comment Wink ) However, I promise to think of Robin every time I wear them...

There's also a York & Lancaster War of the Roses pair of socks, and Turandot socks (but no Aida socks yet.)



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Re: Handbell victim [message #10457 is a reply to message #10434 ] Fri, 23 January 2009 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Congratulations. I wish to point out, however, that having TIME has nothing to do with it. Indeed, at the end of your first practise, your ringing teacher asks you, do you have TIME for the commitment to learn to ring properly? And if you say 'yes' too airily they frown and look worried and disapproving. :)
Re: Handbell victim [message #10459 is a reply to message #10435 ] Fri, 23 January 2009 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OF COURSE YOU CAN RING CHANGES ON HANDBELLS. HAVEN'T I BEEN *SAYING THAT* FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF???? Actually you have a better chance of teaching yourself changes on handbells than you do tower bells. *Print out* copies of the 'lines' and each ringer gets a set. Then *one at a time* you try to ring WITHOUT looking at the line while the others ARE looking at THEIR lines. Works just fine. When I find myself out of my depth I sometimes ring terribly fancy stuff off the line so the GOOD ringers can ring what they like (when they need an extra pair of hands to fill out the pattern).
Re: Handbell victim [message #10460 is a reply to message #10436 ] Fri, 23 January 2009 20:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've loved Poe for pushing 50 years--long before I knew change ringing *existed.* And I NEVER take him personally. Everything he ever WROTE is demented.
Re: Handbell victim [message #10468 is a reply to message #10459 ] Fri, 23 January 2009 20:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robin wrote on Fri, 23 January 2009 19:05

OF COURSE YOU CAN RING CHANGES ON HANDBELLS. HAVEN'T I BEEN *SAYING THAT* FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF???? Actually you have a better chance of teaching yourself changes on handbells than you do tower bells. *Print out* copies of the 'lines' and each ringer gets a set. Then *one at a time* you try to ring WITHOUT looking at the line while the others ARE looking at THEIR lines. Works just fine. When I find myself out of my depth I sometimes ring terribly fancy stuff off the line so the GOOD ringers can ring what they like (when they need an extra pair of hands to fill out the pattern).



We have CHIMES, not bells. They do sound different from handbells, and you can't ring them quite the same way. So I'll probably spend more time looking at the sites, print out the 'lines,' and see what happens.
Re: Handbell victim [message #10491 is a reply to message #10468 ] Sat, 24 January 2009 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What are chimes? What do they look like? I've heard what, when I see them, I would call handbells, called chimes, so I was leaping to an unwarranted conclusion.
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Robin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 17:10

What are chimes? What do they look like? I've heard what, when I see them, I would call handbells, called chimes, so I was leaping to an unwarranted conclusion.


The handchimes aren't bell-shaped at all, but long(ish) steel bars with padded (plain rubber on the higher notes, yarn-covered on the lower (below middle C) clappers, each tuned to play a specific note. Their tone is - higher? - than handbells, and not quite as resonant. We purchased ours from a company called Schulmerich. Generally, a group with handchimes can play the same music as handbells, but they can't do some of the special effects, such as striking the bells, and they can't play on the downstroke, only the standard "up and out" from the shoulder with the snappy wrist action. Our congregation purchased the handchimes because they cost less than half the price of a similar set of handbells, and we couldn't raise any more money. I haven't been able to get adults interested in playing, so I have 5 boys ranging in age from 11 to 14; we started playing roughly three years ago.

I played handbells with a church choir for one year. I now write simplified arrangements of hymns for the boys to play. I have never studied music, just took accordion lessons for three years (ages 11-13). Maybe I'm just crazy.
Re: Handbell victim [message #10510 is a reply to message #10410 ] Sat, 24 January 2009 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And here I thought chimes must be able to do things the bells can't. My mom's bell choir only uses them on some of the songs.


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Re: Handbell victim [message #10528 is a reply to message #10506 ] Sun, 25 January 2009 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can you direct me to a photo of them? You do use an upstroke and downstroke when you're ringing changes, but I don't immediately see any reason why you couldn't just ring all one stroke, so long as you count like the very dickens. Some people use up and down strokes as another means of navigation but you don't have to--I don't. And you MUST count, whatever kind of change ringing you're doing.

I've never studied music either--I only failed to fail 'harmony' in college by being dragged through by my professor, and what I'm doing now with Oisin is, as he likes saying, reinventing the wheel. Change ringing is not strictly speaking musical--it's musical among other things--and the patterns already exist. I *think* all you'd need to do is learn to read them, like anyone does--and of course ring all one stroke. But the patterns on the page don't specify up and downstroke.

I hope you give it a try--and if you do please tell us! :)
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Robin wrote on Sun, 25 January 2009 17:17

Can you direct me to a photo of them? You do use an upstroke and downstroke when you're ringing changes, but I don't immediately see any reason why you couldn't just ring all one stroke, so long as you count like the very dickens. Some people use up and down strokes as another means of navigation but you don't have to--I don't. And you MUST count, whatever kind of change ringing you're doing.

I've never studied music either--I only failed to fail 'harmony' in college by being dragged through by my professor, and what I'm doing now with Oisin is, as he likes saying, reinventing the wheel. Change ringing is not strictly speaking musical--it's musical among other things--and the patterns already exist. I *think* all you'd need to do is learn to read them, like anyone does--and of course ring all one stroke. But the patterns on the page don't specify up and downstroke.

I hope you give it a try--and if you do please tell us! Smile


Here's a photo of a handchime:
http://www.schulmerichbells.com/products_mci_anatomy_melodyc hime.php

I've lost two of my boys (it seems the father has decided he doesn't like my husband and has forced the family to go with him to another church Sad ). I figure, with the three boys who are left and myself, we just might be able to handle learning change ringing. I'm certainly going to give it a try, but I have to figure it out first. ^_^ I think it would be great if we could master some easy patterns in time for Easter.
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Here's a photo of a handchime:
http://www.schulmerichbells.com/products_mci_anatomy_melodyc hime.php


Oops, there's not supposed to be a space between the c and h in chime! Yikes!

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Re: Handbell victim [message #10569 is a reply to message #10546 ] Mon, 26 January 2009 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Interesting. No, I've never seen these before; as I say, I've occasionally seen/heard people call hand *bells* hand *chimes*, perhaps because they are small and therefore sound a bit chimey? Dunno.

You are *not* going to master 'a few easy patterns by Easter'. Change ringing doesn't have easy patterns. But you could very well master plain hunt by Easter, which is the 'pattern before the patterns' and the basis of all the rest. You might get started on bob minor/major (six bells or eight) . . . but it's going to be harder with *none* of you knowing how to do it.

Good luck! :)
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Robin wrote on Mon, 26 January 2009 17:08

Interesting. No, I've never seen these before; as I say, I've occasionally seen/heard people call hand *bells* hand *chimes*, perhaps because they are small and therefore sound a bit chimey? Dunno.

You are *not* going to master 'a few easy patterns by Easter'. Change ringing doesn't have easy patterns. But you could very well master plain hunt by Easter, which is the 'pattern before the patterns' and the basis of all the rest. You might get started on bob minor/major (six bells or eight) . . . but it's going to be harder with *none* of you knowing how to do it.

Good luck! Smile


Well, I kind of figured you'd correct me about the patterns. Thanks for the suggestion of plain hunt. I'm going to try to do that. My younger son, who is one of the handchime choir, says he's up for it.

BTW, I handed Beauty to one of the 7th grade girls who loves fantasy. I'll have to find out if she likes it.
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